I do agree, why would anyone believe in "true love" when its not for certain. We lower our standards for love, to say we have felt such. "True Love" is in your heart... interesting, i see where your going. True Love, regardless of how someone else feels, loving them as though thier family and look past thier mistakes. hmm, i can agree with you on such, i was refering to a more "Relationship" love however =)..

We need faith in somthing becasue if we dont have faith everything is finite. For Example, We notice a photo of a man on the moon, we can determine 1 of 2 things. 1 It actually happened, 2 it was "Photoshopped". WE can choose to disregard everything however somtimes we must not play the fence and take a side, faith is chosing such a side. Faith is my religion, allowing God to lead me on the right side of such a fence. For the remarks i get about my God, i have sure noticed alot of consistency with someone that doesnt exist.

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Yes, Rapunzel, your description is exactly why sarcasm abounds.
Because there is no logic that can substantiate the 'faith' that any individual calls their own.

So why is it that so many insist on 'recruiting' others to their belief system with illogical resonings? Proofs, when there are really non to be had?

When they do so openly, even to the point of argument over who's 'theory' or 'belief' is right or wrong, they invite the same kind of logic that they attempt to impose. Sometimes sarcasm addresses that logic quite well.
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OO someone is getting rather judgemental, figuring a couple posts back you were doing such a thing. Back handed-comments, waste of time if you ask me but then again what ever satisfys you, self-glorifaction. Remind me of the bully in highschool who beats up kids to make himself happy, but inside is really hurting, seems non-religious folk arnt so happy inside, you have my prayers

Has anyone brought up that in Gen 1:26.
ThenGod said, "Let us make man in our imagage, in our likeness, and let them rule.........
Just a thought.

Yes this has been brought up in other posts here too. I think you would need to make your point more clearly though. However since you point it out and it was pointed out and addressed one page back I will answer again. I take the Bible literally , so that statement means that there were many gods that made the world. In my world "we" and "our" refers to a plurality of people.

Also the word "Me" refers to one person.

So if someone said "..why have you forsaken ME?" I would not think he meant many people for instance. I just look at language that way. I use the meaning of words to represent the actual meaning.

Jonlaw

I am showing how Jesus is not God. (concentrate on this statment)

Because he would not make a statement that was something like

"myself, myself, why has myself, abandoned me?"

In Gen 1:26. The "US" is refering to the Holy Trinity.

Even if it did refer to that and god is talking like a schizophrenic with voices in his head. What is your point in regard to this post?

why do some people insist on trying to disprove
and even make jokes of someone elses' belief system?

if you notice i stay away from most of these threads....
it hurts me to see such strife and such energy put on
trying to put down my Lord Jesus Christ...

i don't try to dissect your beliefs,
why do you insist on trying to dissect others ?
why are you so against Christianity ?

i don't hear people putting down the laughing fat man buddha...
oh, that is because he is not God,
and he is still in his grave.

Why do you hate Jesus so much?
What did Jesus ever do to you?
Except die for your sins?

i fel sorry for you...
you are very wrong in your judgement
you are very mixed up and very hostile



i will pray for your soul
and for wisdom to be imparted to you

i believed this yesterday

and i believe it again today and forever


Man is finite and extremely limited
in our abilities and our understandings

God the Creator is infinite and extremely limitless
in his Abilities and Understandings

i really feel so sorry for you

you are so unhappy and so so very lost

Dear Captain


thank you for your presence and for your wisdom

love and hugs and respect to you and Eileen

amen...

the Holy Trinity

in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Praise the Lord Jesus The Christ

rabbit:

I can't even believe this. The sweet cutiful rapunzel even gets mad at the nasty rabbit.....Get a clue dude. She is the sweetest nicest person on JSH and you managed to get under her skin.

And honestly rabbit the only thing we can do is pray for you.

im still confused as to why this conversation is still going? Hadnt we all agreed that God and Jesus are 2 different?

Rapunzel.

Just realize that some people are blinded to the truth. Thats the bad news. The good news is that their eyes can be healed if they honestly seek the truth.
I know I will get blasted for this. But please beleive this is not an attack on anyone.
Rabbit, I will add your name to my prayers, that you can one day see the light of God.

Captain you are very right, seems as we provide answers they disregard such responses, or find somthing negative to say... Hmm negative minds,....

Pleas make sure that you stay within the site rules and stay within the topic and do not direct any insults towards another member of the site. Bashing or insults directed towards another member could cause for suspension or being banned.

Debates are great therapy as long as they are keep within reasons. So all enjoy and be courtesy to the next person.

Thanks for your cooperation.
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Kristi

Repunzel


It has never been my intension to disprove anyone's beliefs. I agree very much with you assessment that the limitations of humans could not allow them to comprehend many things.

However, it is the 'voice' of religion that attempts to restrain, restrict and judge others that requires responce. There are a great many who do not adhere to a 'personal faith' but would rather listen to the voice of humans as they proclaim 'truth'. But that truth can not be, as you have said there is only truth on a 'personal' level. It can never be extended through human communication. Communication that can only be defined through the limited perceptions that pertain to this human form.

So when others feel the need to project this false truth through proof that can not exist, it will be attacked. It will be so, because it is the 'voice' of the religious that extend the greatest animosity between people, societies, cultures and countries.

My intension is never to deny one their faith. And those who respectfully explain their 'beliefs' find no fault in my eyes. But those who are convinced that they alone know and carry the truth, that they alone can interpret the inconceivable, that they alone have been chosen to hear a higher call, do NOT seek peace with others. Not even those who walk a path akin to their own.

Some understand sarcasm, it seems to be a requirement for those who 'voice' loudly their prescription for belief. I see it all too often and on occasion, I attempt to speak that language.

Those who attack it, are usually those who are most proficient in its use. A test? maybe - it helps me to understand better, who is the greatest offender. But in reality, sometimes imitating what one is doing, sheds a light on how they are coming accross. That was the original intension.

Why do I take the time to explain this - so that others will know me and my stand, as well as they have made themselves known to me.

In the bolded statement above, do you include the Bible as the "voice of humans"?