Then why is religion such a silly idea to you? or maybe your previous posts on JSH may have been misinterpreted by me?



Again, this is your world view being pushed onto me. I don’t see love as having anything at all to do with faith. For me love is very real and can be seen, felt, and shared in the actions of myself and others. No comparison with faith at all.

I think you’re just jumping to a lot of conclusions based on your own world view, which has nothing at all to do with my world view.



Ah am i really push a worldy view? Or meraly proposing and another alternative in the mix? Love being somthing reliant purly on faith... No senses =)

So 'seen' being a sense? we can see love? ahh 'think' mindful thoughts on what the actions of what love is, then you see such, through actions. True love is not visble cause what 80% of the time 'man' is wrong about TRUE LOVE, which ends in divorce, if it was so easy to been seen then, would that be so high?

Ahh Abra, im not jumping to conculsions im proposing some ideas? Maybe there is some truth to what i say? Maybe we arnt so differnt people give our differences in our foundations of life>?

If you truly want to find it just google the author and title...

Amazon, I believe, has it for less than $15.00 USD...

10.98 =), i will give it a look at and let you know

What did you get out of it Creative?

Your original implication seemed to be that if someone rejects a particular specific doctrine they aren’t being open minded. My only response to that is that if someone has investigated that doctrine and found it to be inconsistent they should be able to reject it without being accused of not being open minded. After all, they did consider it. My original point was to question how long someone needs to continue to consider something before they can reject it without being called closed minded?



What you are talking about here doesn’t appear to have anything to do with faith, but more to do with just plain luck.

In other words, a lot of people had ‘faith’ in the love of their mates only to discover that their ‘faith’ had been misplaced. Faith itself is a meaningless concept. It simply means to believe in something whether you know it to be true or not.

In that sense, faith has no power or value at all. We simply attribute the lucky outcomes to ‘faith’, but do we honestly recognize the myriad of times that ‘faith’ has failed?

By your analogy above, TRUE LOVE would be entirely dependent on faith. So anytime TRUE LOVE does not grow, we can simply blame it on the fact that the participants didn’t have enough ‘faith’.

I don’t think I’m prepared to buy into that philosophy. I’m not trying to be closed minded or anything. It just doesn’t sound like a viable philosophy to me.

Amen, Sister

Amen

Last time I'm even gonna bother posting in this thread;^]

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Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date: 13th century
1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
synonyms see belief
— on faith : without question <took everything he said on faith>

Enlightenment my friend... I gained as much understanding from that text as I had any other, and the list is quite long, I assure you.

yes it is

Not how long but under what mind has it been considered. Were you in a state of aggression while the length of your time you were researching? Sounds as though you were finding things that didnt make sence other than things that made sence? Should you have maybe disregarded such feelings and maybe take a chance, a chance at being hurt, as we humans do so easily in the game of love. You make a vaild point here, Should anything be Finite? Should we reject any idea? Is anything fact? however we need to have our foundation... So i can understand what your saying here, no need to post Anti-christ posts however


Your totally correct! Then why as humans do we still seek to find somthing that is really never 'forever'? The never guarantee of finding 'true love' yet we seek to find it? Interesting?



Ahh but granted they have similarities they are totally different =), its what you base love on, that gives it its power/value. i see you point though, but i compare only the idea that love is fintie and relys on faith.

True Love is somthing we as humans cannot know, sounds difficult? I agree, which True Love is explained in Greek 3 types. Physical Emotional Spiritual. Phsyical and Emotional Love can fade and do so, its the Spiritual love that doesnt break, this is the 'true' love.

If true love was not experienced, in my opinion, my spiritual, Physical, and emotion loves Failed. My 2 year relationship failed becasue of the Spiritual Love failing first, the she wasnt so attractice emotionally anymore, then all that was left was the physicall, and that wasnt attractive within it self..



Dont buy it just send me some tithes and offerings =)

thank you, turtle poet

Very very well said

creations who ever said that, said it very well. I agree 2

I'm not convinced that all humans do this.

I never sought 'true love' in the sense that you speak of it here.

For me, 'true love' isn't something 'out there'. For me, true love is in my heart. It's something I have to give another. It's not something I search for.

Why would I need to have 'faith' in something that is me?

yes, amen

your right Jesus is not God, he is the son of God, know the relationship between the two before you say something stupid

Mary had a baby it was Jesus,hence christmas day, Jesus hangs on the cross good friday, rises from the dead hence Easter,, know why has God forsaken me makes sense, son to dad

I don't mean to be critical and I'm not a man of spiritual education, but why do people want to insult they integrity of what others believe, this is why there are many wars due to this thinking im sure alot of us dont beleive in santa clause, yet it gives children hope, like christ gives to adults hope,because in the end when we die no one will know if they were right or wrong anyway.