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Sounds like consensual domestic violence to me. Does that make regular intercourse "consensual rape?" And there are different degrees of BDSM that do not include the pain that is so often associated with it. No regular intercourse is consensual sex. Consensual rape is perverted just like BDSM, I think it's actually part of the idea. Sex should be between 2 people who love each other and what does rape bondage domination and sado masochism have to do with love? Asking to do those things or allowing them is not love and shouldn't be part of sex ideally. If it's not right for you, that's fine. Don't engage in it. But many people, for whatever their reasons may be, enjoy it. Perhaps you do things others don't approve of sexually. To some people anything other than missionary with the lights off is a perversion. If they aren't hurting you, why do you care? ******** It's none of your business********** how other people have sex. suppose i told you it's none of your business to tell someone else that it's none of their business to post their personal viewpoint on a public forum ?? why not just avoid the negative criticism of others .....and post your own views in a positive light Suppose I told you that I could say the same thing about almost everyone else here if I really decided to really look for petty things to get upset about? |
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i'd say....i don't wanna know about it.....it's none of my business...
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Lights on please .. I like to see what I am getting candles and wax will do ??? *snicker snicker... |
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The world of bdsm for many is a lifestyle which has much more to do with just expression of sexuality .. like devil dog said it is built on complete trust and an openminded view of what pleasure And commitment is. There will always be extremes but those who practise mostly do so with knowledge and caring for their partner. Like any relationship it can become destructive dysfunctional and dangerous to your health .. Many men particularly think dominance is about aggression and overpowering their partner .. When in fact it has more to do with a connection of minds .. And controlling through mindplay :-) Very well said!!!!!! |
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors.
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Edited by
MadDog1974
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Tue 02/24/15 12:51 AM
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. So what about when the roles are reversed? You've said nothing about the woman being dominant and the man submissive. And again, why is anyone else's sex life any of your business? And "I'm sure many men...." means you have nothing to back up your opinion. |
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. So what about when the roles are reversed? You've said nothing about the woman being dominant and the man submissive. And again, why is anyone else's sex life any of your business? And "I'm sure many men...." means you have nothing to back up your opinion. If you read the article, it talks about men being submissive and why that argument doesn't mean anything. I can back up "many men" with the fact that domestic violence is rampant all over the world. |
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. So what about when the roles are reversed? You've said nothing about the woman being dominant and the man submissive. And again, why is anyone else's sex life any of your business? And "I'm sure many men...." means you have nothing to back up your opinion. If you read the article, it talks about men being submissive and why that argument doesn't mean anything. I can back up "many men" with the fact that domestic violence is rampant all over the world. Your assumption that BDSM has anything to do with real abuse is completely unfounded. You still can't answer why anyone else's sex life is any of your business. What if I said that whatever you like is perverted? You shouldn't do that because I think it's bad. It leads to this societal problems. I have no proof except maybe an article I found online, but everything online is true, especially if it supports my opinion. Your article means nothing because for every one you can find to support your opinion, I can find one to debunk your opinion. Why is anyone else's sex life your business? |
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I think it's a lot healthier for society to see this http://mashable.com/2015/02/23/turkish-men-mini-skirt-campaign/ than a dumb movie glorifying violence towards women.
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I think it's a lot healthier for society to see this http://mashable.com/2015/02/23/turkish-men-mini-skirt-campaign/ than a dumb movie glorifying violence towards women. As I've already noted, you posting links is invalid because I can do the same thing to argue why you are wrong. I have no interest in 50 Shades, but why is anyone else's sex life any of your business? Why do you refuse to answer that one simple question? |
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You think posting links is invalid. You assume I think other people's sex life is my business.
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You think posting links is invalid. You assume I think other people's sex life is my business. No, your comments smack of, "I don't like it so people shouldn't do it." I'm not the one critical of what other people do behind closed doors. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's really that simple. Just because you assume it is a form of domestic violence doesn't mean it is. If I found links to support the argument that homosexuality contributes to ________ (fill in your favorite societal ill), I'm sure you would accuse me of homophobia. Or if I could support the argument that oral sex is a perversion that we should have a problem with, would you be ok with that? Again, what others do behind closed doors is no one's business but their own. Maybe you do things that I have a problem with. Guess what? I don't care because that's your business, not mine. Why is it so hard for you to accept that some people sin differently than you? |
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. |
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. I'm trying to get that visual out of my head, but it makes sense! |
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Someone asked for people to share our thoughts. I stated that it's legal meaning I'm aware that I have no say in what other people do in their own sex life, but I don't agree with it and I talk about why. No one needs to agree with me, but telling me I can't have a valid opinion is where I draw the line. You can give your opinion on the matter or not that is up to you.
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If a guy is willing to hurt his girlfriend what's to say he wouldn't do it without her permission? I'm sure many guys who like BDSM are really just ******** who like hurting women. And for women to encourage this behavior in men, they are not doing us any favors. Why do you keep pushing and arguing when it has been properly explained to you by many? Coming back from an abusive relationship is hard and in that sense it's understandable that BDSM appalls you, possibly upsets you. But you can still try to have a bit of an open mind and simply accept that it's NOT abuse. It can look like abuse to you because of your past, and that's okay. If you don't understand, that's okay too. You don't have to like it, you don't have to want it, you can even disapprove of it, yet still accept that it is not abuse. Accept that it's not about screwed up men hurting women. If you want to get over your abusive past, you may want to try and let go of your fixed views and visions. Maybe at some point you should even read a good BDSM book so maybe you understand the difference between abuse and BDSM. As long as you don't want to get informed, try to not judge what you don't understand. |
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Someone asked for people to share our thoughts. I stated that it's legal meaning I'm aware that I have no say in what other people do in their own sex life, but I don't agree with it and I talk about why. No one needs to agree with me, but telling me I can't have a valid opinion is where I draw the line. You can give your opinion on the matter or not that is up to you. So in other words, "I have an opinion and you're being mean because you're challenging it." Nowhere did I say you can't have your opinion. I am simply challenging you on it. You have been unable to support your opinion, which means that it's not for you. That's ok. It isn't for most people. But many people do enjoy it. Some even go to extremes that would make most people vomit, but if they aren't hurting anyone (except in a way they find pleasurable) that's between them. I'm sorry that you think having your opinion challenged is mean and somehow preventing you from having that opinion, or even stating it, but your freedom of speech doesn't negate my my right to challenge what you said. You have no defense other than to get mad because of your own inability to defend your opinion. You may even have a valid opinion. I just haven't seen any valid arguments to support it. |
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If BDSM is acceptable, then it could be argued that domestic violence is ok between 2 consenting adults because both condone the abuse. Would you agree with this statement?
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Edited by
MadDog1974
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Tue 02/24/15 02:37 AM
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If BDSM is acceptable, then it could be argued that domestic violence is ok between 2 consenting adults because both condone the abuse. Would you agree with this statement? You are conflating completely separate issues. This is an apples and elephants comparison. Rough sex is hardly the same thing as punching your significant other in the face because dinner wasn't ready at exactly 6:00. And it has also been pointed out to you that there are many different levels of BDSM. Some people don't inflict any pain at all. But you are so wrapped up in your preconceived notion that it's all bad to you. You still haven't made any valid points other than "I don't like it" to support why you are against it. |
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Don't you know rough sex, domestic violence, and rape fall under behaviors in BDSM?
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