That's actually true that Affirmative Action isn't a law.

FSLA is about wages but has two discrimination clauses and protects workers from retaliation regardless of race, gender, age, etc. The protections for workers are there, in my opinion.

People of equal qualification should have to compete without special privilege. I'm competing for jobs right now and it's a competition no matter who you are. Let the best man or woman win and if you don't, it's probably not the right "fit" company for you anyway! I've lost out on jobs to younger people, minority candidates and people who spoke Spanish fluently in America. It's nobody's right to work based on anything other than their credentials and I'll repeat that Affirmative Action was NOT intended to give a leg up for under-qualified individuals...but often has in practice.

I'm much more comfortable giving Veteran's preference to someone than AffAction preference...and I don't give a flip what color the Vet is.

What about discriminating on how people look?

Experienced servers (Cleveland)

Date: 2012-07-09, 10:30PM EDT
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A busy casual/fine restaurant looking for an experienced server with a knowledge in wine and liquer. Please submit your resume and a pic if possible

Age, weight, appearance...it all happens.

It is mean and just loses my faith in humanity

Well, I don't expect a woman who has a figure like Goldie Hawn to be hired by Hooters.

did they explain HOW they calculated the information,

because it doesnt numerically match up to college admissions statistics,,,unless we account for the many HSBC private colleges of the time which would increase the numbers of minorities in 'private university' but still not enough to make them five times more likely than their majority/white counterparts,,,


I find it as hard to believe as the Bell Curve,, although that was at least founded upon a genuine concept even if it was used to misinterpret

as messed up as that is, those are still things we all have SOME type of control over,,

unlike race, gender, etc,,,,

lol, no

well, to some extent

how healthy our skin or hair or teeth are,,,we do have some control over that...

our smile

our style of makeup

tattoos , pierceings,,,

those are things in a picture that we have a bit of control over

what God gave us naturally, is another issue,,

Harvard Targeted In U.S. Asian-American Discrimination Probe

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html

For that, we have plastic surgery.

the average joe/jill doesnt have money on hand for that like they do makeup, hair supplies,,,etc,,,

Obamacare does not cover plastic surgery.

Now, back to the main topic.

Here is what msharmony posted earlier:

Fact: Black youths arrested for drug possession are 48 times more likely to wind up in prison than white youths arrested for the same crime under the same circumstances.

Source: “Young White Offenders get lighter treatment,” 2000. The Tennessean. April 26: 8A.

Fact: Black and Latino men are three times more likely than white men to be stopped by the police and have their cars searched – even though white men are four times more likely to have weapons or drugs.

Source: Matthew R. Durose, Erica L. Schmitt and Patrick A. Langan, Contacts Between Police and the Public: Findings from the 2002 National Survey. U.S. Department of Justice, (Bureau of Justice Statistics), April 2005.

Fact: White men with a criminal record are more likely to be called back for a job interview than black men with no record, even when their education and experience are the same.

Source: Pager, Devah. 2003. “The Mark of a Criminal Record.” American Journal of Sociology. Volume 108: 5, March: 937-75.

Fact: Students of colour are far less likely to be put in honours courses even after you take test scores and grades into account.

Source: Gordon, Rebecca. 1998. Education and Race. Oakland: Applied Research Center: 48-9; Fischer, Claude S. et al., 1996. Inequality by Design: Cracking the Bell Curve Myth. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press: 163; Steinhorn, Leonard and Barabara Diggs-Brown, 1999. By the Color of Our Skin: The Illusion of Integration and the Reality of Race. NY: Dutton: 95-6.

Fact: Students of colour are more than twice as likely to be suspended or expelled from school even though they are not much more likely to break school rules than whites.

Source: Skiba, Russell J. et al., The Color of Discipline: Sources of Racial and Gender Disproportionality in School Punishment. Indiana Education Policy Center, Policy Research Report SRS1, June 2000; U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance System: Youth 2003, Online Comprehensive Results, 2004.

msharmony introduced the above-cited studies as specific evidence supporting her claim that systemic racism continues to exist. So, msharmony isn't playing the race card in this case.

So, now what?

Affirmative Action is a legal "tool" used to promote women and minorities....Although I agree with you when you say a person's right to work should be based on their credentials (qualifications) only, too often that is not the case...Affirmative Action and the Fair Labor Standards Act are completely different....Affirimative Action focuses on creating equal opportunities and promoting diversity...FLSA focuses on wages, child labor, and recordkeeping....I think many people take issue with Affirmative Action because it's a constitutional paradox...It's basically doing something that is unequal to create something equal!...This becomes a paradox because the constitution requires all people be treated equally...Even though some take advantage of the program, it has contributed greatly to enhancing through diversity both the workplace and higher education....America is a melting pot and although absolute equality will never be achieved, it is beneficial to people as a "whole" that we continue to work to narrow the opportunity gaps that still exist....

Ricky Ross
Paul Lir Alexander
Felix Mitchell
Carlos Lehder
José Gonzalo Rodríguez Gacha
Griselda Blanco
Amado Carrillo Fuentes
Pablo Escobar
Frank Lucas
Demetrius Flenory
Christopher Coke
Arturo Beltrán Leyva
Manuel Noriega

In fairness more Blacks and Latinos are the big time drug pushers. The reason there are more black and Latino drug dealers than white drug dealers has everything to do with economics and sociology, and nothing to do with any perceived differences between the races.

This is a valid point....

It is a constitutional paradox. That is why it infuriates people.

Exactly!...That and too many are not looking at (can't see) the big picture, the overall results....I hate to keep using that "big picture" line, but it just keeps applying....

What about affirmative wages?