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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe
MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/26/12 04:33 PM Edited by MorningSong on Sun 02/26/12 04:44 PM
Added sidenote on Faith: Faith to beleive that Washington was President, for instance, is again,actually called having CONFIDENCE. ALL confidene to believe in something ,comes thru the INTELLECT. BUT FAITH TO BELEIVE IN GOD ONLY COMES THRU THE SPIRIT AND NOT THRU THE INTELLECT......AND AGAIN, FAITH TO BELIEVE COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD. FAITH TO BELIEVE IN GOD COMES ONLY FROM GOD. NOT FROM MAN. Hearing The Word of God is what brings forth FAITH TO BELIEVE IN GOD. ( One can hear The Word in one's spirit, by reading the Word ,and not only just by hearing the Word of God preached .) Hearing just man's opinions or anything else beside the True Word of God , will never bring forth faith to believe. There is no Power in dead words...there is only Power in The Word of God, to draw man unto God and open man's eyes to understanding of God...and in nothing else.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 05:51 PM
You know God is there when everything in your life could be going wrong at the same time, but you have a comforted heart that God will provide. When your alone in this world but you feel like there is always someone there to hear your problems, understand, and comfort you providing you with what you need to overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. Cowboy...you're description as to the meaning of having "personally experienced God"...is actually you describing the onset of depression

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 02/26/12 06:00 PM
You know God is there when everything in your life could be going wrong at the same time, but you have a comforted heart that God will provide. When your alone in this world but you feel like there is always someone there to hear your problems, understand, and comfort you providing you with what you need to overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. Cowboy...you're description as to the meaning of having "personally experienced God"...is actually you describing the onset of depression Depressed people don't believe they can take on and overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. That's why they are depressed, they feel they can't overcome, change, or fix something(s) in their lives. So no, you are absolutely incorrect.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:01 PM
'used against you',,,,lol whatever dude,,, MsHarmony...at first you claim that those that never personally observed or experienced God would require "Faith" to believe then you tried to use Columbus as an example ...you claim that since you never met columbus you would need faith in the authors that wrote the books about Columbus, that what they wrote was truth and then I said wouldn't the same also apply to the bible...that someone they never personally observed or experienced God would require Faith in the authors of the bible that what they wrote about God was truth and then finding yourself in a pickle you then claim that you had "personally experienced God" so what the heck does "personally experienced God" means?...is that the same double talk believers use to claim that the bible was "inspired by God" ... but anyway...if you claim that you personally experienced God...then why would you still need Faith ...unless you had doubts that it was God that you had that personal experience with...because it could have been Satan but anyway...can you explain the term "personally experienced God"...er...without sounding delusional? probably not to you,,,, carry on,,, apparently not to yourself either keep trying, maybe some valid point will arise from the circular rhetoric,,, MsHarmony....I'm still waiting on you to explain what "personally experience God" means... especially since you claim that it happen to you do it mean you actually saw God face to face or do it means that you just heard voices that sound like God's voice like in the movie "The Ten Commandments" starring Charleston Heston so come on MsHarmony....spread the gospel.....what does "personally experience God" means ....

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 06:05 PM Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/26/12 06:06 PM
its called 'personal' for a reason , its not to be generally applied to 'explain' anything

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:08 PM
BUT FAITH TO BELEIVE IN GOD ONLY COMES THRU THE SPIRIT AND NOT THRU THE INTELLECT...... so Faith to believe in God, does not require one to use their brains ...and that would explain the term "Blind Faith"

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Sun 02/26/12 06:10 PM Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sun 02/26/12 06:10 PM
Sounds more like funchogic....

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:13 PM
You know God is there when everything in your life could be going wrong at the same time, but you have a comforted heart that God will provide. When your alone in this world but you feel like there is always someone there to hear your problems, understand, and comfort you providing you with what you need to overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. Cowboy...you're description as to the meaning of having "personally experienced God"...is actually you describing the onset of depression Depressed people don't believe they can take on and overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. That's why they are depressed, they feel they can't overcome, change, or fix something(s) in their lives. So no, you are absolutely incorrect. you were describing someone depress that believe that God could heal them from being depress ...I mean your post has a whole gloom and Doom scenerio streaming through it

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 02/26/12 06:22 PM
If someone would define and describe the term "God" it might make describing a personal experience with that a lot easier. I have a personal experience with God when I feel joy, and I see God when I look in the mirror.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 06:24 PM
the creator I experience the presence when I look at a beautiful landscape I experience the presencewhen I watch my child sleeping I experience him when I pray

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:26 PM
its called 'personal' for a reason , its not to be generally applied to 'explain' anything MsHarmony...you claim that you "personally experienced God" not that it was personal...if it was personal then you wouldn't have even brought it up ...you teaser you

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 02/26/12 06:28 PM
You know God is there when everything in your life could be going wrong at the same time, but you have a comforted heart that God will provide. When your alone in this world but you feel like there is always someone there to hear your problems, understand, and comfort you providing you with what you need to overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. Cowboy...you're description as to the meaning of having "personally experienced God"...is actually you describing the onset of depression Depressed people don't believe they can take on and overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. That's why they are depressed, they feel they can't overcome, change, or fix something(s) in their lives. So no, you are absolutely incorrect. you were describing someone depress that believe that God could heal them from being depress ...I mean your post has a whole gloom and Doom scenerio streaming through it Only because you only focus on the gloom of it. You refused to see where God would help them through whatever it is making them depressed. You only see the negative cause you choose to only see the negative. This "gloomy" feeling or this "depressed" feeling was not caused by God, but God healed them of it whatever may be that's making them depressed. You do this, because you don't come here to discuss. Only to try your best at making God appear to be a bad, evil, person/being. God can and will fix any and all problems have. So I ask, how was my post full of gloom and doom?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 06:28 PM
its called 'personal' for a reason , its not to be generally applied to 'explain' anything MsHarmony...you claim that you "personally experienced God" not that it was personal...if it was personal then you wouldn't have even brought it up ...you teaser you no teasing,, I have no indication that others reading the posts are having a problem understanding it,,,,

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:34 PM
If someone would define and describe the term "God" it might make describing a personal experience with that a lot easier. I have a personal experience with God when I feel joy, and I see God when I look in the mirror. according to Cowboy the term God means "title of authority"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 02/26/12 06:41 PM
You know God is there when everything in your life could be going wrong at the same time, but you have a comforted heart that God will provide. When your alone in this world but you feel like there is always someone there to hear your problems, understand, and comfort you providing you with what you need to overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. Cowboy...you're description as to the meaning of having "personally experienced God"...is actually you describing the onset of depression Depressed people don't believe they can take on and overcome any obsticle there could be in this world. That's why they are depressed, they feel they can't overcome, change, or fix something(s) in their lives. So no, you are absolutely incorrect. you were describing someone depress that believe that God could heal them from being depress ...I mean your post has a whole gloom and Doom scenerio streaming through it Only because you only focus on the gloom of it. You refused to see where God would help them through whatever it is making them depressed. You only see the negative cause you choose to only see the negative. This "gloomy" feeling or this "depressed" feeling was not caused by God, but God healed them of it whatever may be that's making them depressed. You do this, because you don't come here to discuss. Only to try your best at making God appear to be a bad, evil, person/being. God can and will fix any and all problems have. So I ask, how was my post full of gloom and doom? Cowboy...do you normally go around others saying the same things in that post....if so..then I'll bet that no one ever accuse you of being the life of the party

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 02/26/12 06:41 PM
If someone would define and describe the term "God" it might make describing a personal experience with that a lot easier. I have a personal experience with God when I feel joy, and I see God when I look in the mirror. according to Cowboy the term God means "title of authority" Then his definition of God is not the same as mine. ("Title of authority" could be the president or it could be me.") I hold the title of authority over myself and my own decisions. Therefore I am God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 02/26/12 06:41 PM
If someone would define and describe the term "God" it might make describing a personal experience with that a lot easier. I have a personal experience with God when I feel joy, and I see God when I look in the mirror. according to Cowboy the term God means "title of authority" Incorrect, god means "title of authority". God is the title we have given to Jesus' father so one know's whom the other is referring to since we know not the name of his father. And "God" is simpler to say then "Jesus' father". That is why it is capitolized, for it is in place of his name of which again we know not of.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 02/26/12 06:43 PM
If someone would define and describe the term "God" it might make describing a personal experience with that a lot easier. I have a personal experience with God when I feel joy, and I see God when I look in the mirror. according to Cowboy the term God means "title of authority" Then his definition of God is not the same as mine. ("Title of authority" could be the president or it could be me.") I hold the title of authority over myself and my own decisions. Therefore I am God. Don't listen to Funches' confusion. god is title of authority, but God is the title given to Jesus' father for we do not know his name.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 02/26/12 06:44 PM
Cowboy then by "we" you mean whom? You "Christians" or you and the rest of your cult or church? The term "God" is used by Muslims and Jews too and they don't believe in Jesus. I use the term "God" also and I don't believe in Jesus.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 02/26/12 06:46 PM
Cowboy then by "we" you mean whom? You "Christians" or you and the rest of your cult or church? The term "God" is used by Muslims and Jews too and they don't believe in Jesus. I use the term "God" also and I don't believe in Jesus. The simplest meaning of "god" is authority. That is why we refer to Jesus' father as "God" for he has all and complete authority and we know not his name. One's God could be money, power, women, or anything they give authority over their life.