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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe
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Sun 03/04/12 12:06 PM

The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill..


if Thou Shalt not Kill are in the Ten Commandments... then the Commandments do speak of not killing ...




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Sun 03/04/12 12:08 PM


The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill..


if Thou Shalt not Kill are in the Ten Commandments... then the Commandments do speak of not killing ...






Did I say that? No.

Thou shalt not MURDER.

If you need a refresher on the difference between Murder and Kill.

Feel free to scroll back to where I said it FOUR times in this thread.

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Sun 03/04/12 12:09 PM
..you really need to start reading the entire response.

It'll save you from looking--

No, never mind. You already know.

-.-

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Sun 03/04/12 12:19 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 03/04/12 12:19 PM



The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill..


if Thou Shalt not Kill are in the Ten Commandments... then the Commandments do speak of not killing ...






Did I say that? No.




POSTED BY Sin_and_Sorrow:
The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill.


so yes... you did say it...it appears that you have "selective memory" ...




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Sun 03/04/12 12:22 PM
Edited by Sin_and_Sorrow on Sun 03/04/12 12:22 PM




The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill..


if Thou Shalt not Kill are in the Ten Commandments... then the Commandments do speak of not killing ...






Did I say that? No.




POSTED BY Sin_and_Sorrow:
The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill.


so yes... you did say it...it appears that you have "selective memory" ...






OMG!


READ THAT!

The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill.


Please, do yourself a favor.

Learn how to R-E-A-D. LMFAO!

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Sun 03/04/12 12:33 PM

No, a judgement is not murder.


a judgement would be someone premediating ...which is why it is murder

if the bible tell you not to kill..then as a Christian you should not kill or seek out legal ways to kill ..Jesus taught to turn the other cheek ...not to kill it


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Sun 03/04/12 12:50 PM


No, a judgement is not murder.


a judgement would be someone premediating ...which is why it is murder

if the bible tell you not to kill..then as a Christian you should not kill or seek out legal ways to kill ..Jesus taught to turn the other cheek ...not to kill it




Dude.

The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.

I wouldn't give Judgment such an unqualified title as Murder or Killing... It's deemed Genocide.

Again, "seek out legal ways to kill" that's murder.
"should not kill" is killing.

Pick one reference or the other, please.

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Sun 03/04/12 01:32 PM

The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing

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Sun 03/04/12 01:34 PM


The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


After you explain how someone can speak without thinking...




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Sun 03/04/12 01:34 PM


The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


relevance?

explain how someone can steal without taking

but taking is not a crime

and STEALING is


If I take the camera out of my desk, that is not illegal
if I take YOUR camera, without your permission, that is illegal
and called 'stealing'

if you kill in self defense, that is not illegal
if you kill without justification , that is illegal and called MURDER

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Sun 03/04/12 01:43 PM



The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


relevance?

explain how someone can steal without taking

but taking is not a crime

and STEALING is


If I take the camera out of my desk, that is not illegal
if I take YOUR camera, without your permission, that is illegal
and called 'stealing'

if you kill in self defense, that is not illegal
if you kill without justification , that is illegal and called MURDER


Very good msharmony.

Now go buy a gun to protect yourself. laugh :tongue:

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Sun 03/04/12 01:45 PM



The Commandments don't speak of Murder and Kill..


if Thou Shalt not Kill are in the Ten Commandments... then the Commandments do speak of not killing ...






Did I say that? No.

Thou shalt not MURDER.

If you need a refresher on the difference between Murder and Kill.

Feel free to scroll back to where I said it FOUR times in this thread.



Okay I don't know what Bible you grew up on buy my Bible said THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

IFF one change of a single translation of one word can cause so much of a difference in the meaning of a single commandment, one has to doubt the integrity of the Bible altogether considering how many times it has been REWRITTEN!!



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Sun 03/04/12 01:48 PM
We normal people don't have access to all the different translations of the Bible and we can't read in all the different languages it was apparently written and rewritten in, so people of the cloth should not be surprised when we get fed up with hundreds of different congregations disputing over what that single 2000 year old book is supposed to mean.

People should forget about that puzzle and about squabbling over petty differences of opinions on that and just live together in peace and understanding and stop trying to convert people to believe as they do.

And just use some common sense people.

geeeeze.

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Sun 03/04/12 01:51 PM




If a man break into my house with intent to murder my child or woman...

I will kill him if I must to stop him.

There is most definately a different meaning in the words murder and kill.

Or would you consider what I did 'murder' and so punish me?



CoyboyGH said:


Would be murder.


In this way how you gonna name that act when God has drown all ppl including babies in that ?


No, a judgement is not murder. If a judgement was murder, there would be no such thing as the death penalty. For if a judge sentenced someone to death, the judge and the executioner(s) would then also have to be sentenced with murder.

That is why we are not to murder, for Jesus is the judge, not us.


Then the father killing his child by his judgement will be innocent , based on your claim ???




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Sun 03/04/12 01:51 PM



The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


After you explain how someone can speak without thinking...



reacting instintively to an unexpected stimuli resulting in a vocal outburst or speech

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Sun 03/04/12 01:53 PM





If a man break into my house with intent to murder my child or woman...

I will kill him if I must to stop him.

There is most definately a different meaning in the words murder and kill.

Or would you consider what I did 'murder' and so punish me?



CoyboyGH said:


Would be murder.


In this way how you gonna name that act when God has drown all ppl including babies in that ?


CoyboyGH said:


No, a judgement is not murder. If a judgement was murder, there would be no such thing as the death penalty. For if a judge sentenced someone to death, the judge and the executioner(s) would then also have to be sentenced with murder.

That is why we are not to murder, for Jesus is the judge, not us.




Then the father killing his child by his judgement will be innocent , based on your claim ???





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Sun 03/04/12 01:54 PM




The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


After you explain how someone can speak without thinking...



reacting instintively to an unexpected stimuli resulting in a vocal outburst or speech



Gotcha, so you just react to unexpected stimuli. (void of thought, again...)


That stimuli wouldn't have been my rib, would it?



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Sun 03/04/12 01:54 PM



The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


relevance?

explain how someone can steal without taking

but taking is not a crime

and STEALING is


If I take the camera out of my desk, that is not illegal
if I take YOUR camera, without your permission, that is illegal
and called 'stealing'

if you kill in self defense, that is not illegal
if you kill without justification , that is illegal and called MURDER


MsHarmony...I didn't ask for the definition or the legalise...I asked how do you murder someone without killing them

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Sun 03/04/12 01:57 PM




The Bible does NOT say not to KILL.
It says NOT to MURDER.


explain how someone can murder without killing


relevance?

explain how someone can steal without taking

but taking is not a crime

and STEALING is


If I take the camera out of my desk, that is not illegal
if I take YOUR camera, without your permission, that is illegal
and called 'stealing'

if you kill in self defense, that is not illegal
if you kill without justification , that is illegal and called MURDER


MsHarmony...I didn't ask for the definition or the legalise...I asked how do you murder someone without killing them


NO, you asked: "explain how someone can murder without killing "


Answer: funches murders logic, yet logic still lives...



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Sun 03/04/12 02:03 PM
msharmony said:


relevance?

explain how someone can steal without taking

but taking is not a crime

and STEALING is


If I take the camera out of my desk, that is not illegal
if I take YOUR camera, without your permission, that is illegal
and called 'stealing'




Till here you didn't explain " how someone can steal without taking"

You explain the difference between 'take' and 'steal'

Now pls one more try ...

How someone can steal without to take it ?


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