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Do You believe that Jesus is LORD OF ALL.. LORD ABOVE ALL LORDS...LORD OF ALL....not just OUR Lord? Do You also believe Jesus is Equally God WITH the Father? God has revealed this Truth to EVERY born again Believer.... This is why ALL born again christians agree on this truth....cause God has REVEALED this truth to us. IF this is not yet Believed, ASK GOD to REVEAL His truth to you, Cowboy. Be Blessed Now. Yes Jesus is the lord of lords. God the father is greater then Jesus yes. Jesus NEVER put himself as equal with God the father, he ALWAYS put the father above him in all his praising. |
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Do You believe that Jesus is LORD OF ALL.. LORD ABOVE ALL LORDS...LORD OF ALL....not just OUR Lord? Do You also believe Jesus is Equally God WITH the Father? God has revealed this Truth to EVERY born again Believer.... This is why ALL born again christians agree on this truth....cause God has REVEALED this truth to us. IF this is not yet Believed, ASK GOD to REVEAL His truth to you, Cowboy. Be Blessed Now. Yes Jesus is the lord of lords. God the father is greater then Jesus yes. Jesus NEVER put himself as equal with God the father, he ALWAYS put the father above him in all his praising. To be more specific word from Jesus himself on this subject. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 05:56 PM
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Christians DON'T agree with you ,Cowboy.
You present a "different" gospel on here. Jesus is LORD OF LORDS, not "lord of lords." We know Jesus is just as much God as the Father..that is why we worship Jesus. Jesus and the Father are ONE...Jesus Himself even said that. Although Jesus said while still on earth,that the Father is greater than I, the Father GAVE All the Glory to Jesus now. They are BOTH EQUALLY GOD. Cowboy....Again...Go spend time with God now. ASK HIM to Show You ALL TRUTH of WHO HE IS. Have to run now, Precious. http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-God.html 
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Christians DON'T agree with you ,Cowboy. You present a "different" gospel on here. Jesus is LORD OF LORDS, not "lord of lords." We know Jesus is just as much God as the Father..that is why we worship Jesus. Jesus and the Father are ONE...Jesus Himself even said that. Although Jesus said while still on earth,that the Father is greater than I, the Father GAVE All the Glory to Jesus now. They are BOTH EQUALLY GOD. Cowboy....Again...Go spend time with God now. ASK HIM to Show You ALL TRUTH of WHO HE IS. Have to run now, Precious. http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-God.html
LORD of LORDS and lord of lords is the exact same thing just in lower case... what are you talking about? And if he is EQUAL to God the father, then why did he say this? If he was equal to the father, then the father could not be GREATER then Jesus, now could he? John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 06:26 PM
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From what I shared earlier:
After this I can do no more. Be Blessed now Cowboy. "...Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANATE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58). It is clear that Jesus was claiming to be GOD IN FLESH because the Jews, upon hearing this statement, tried to stone Him to death. To the Jews, declaring oneself to be THE ETERNAL GOD was blasphemy worthy of death (Leviticus 24:16). Jesus was claiming to be ETERNAL, just AS His Father is eternal. This was declared AGAIN by John regarding the NATURE of Christ: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God” (John 1:1). From BEFORE recorded time, Jesus AND His Father were ONE IN ESSENCE, and SHARING EQUALLY in the ATTRIBUTES OF ETERNALITY...." Cowboy,I can do no more...God will make all things clear if you ASK HIM Now. PS....There are MANY MANY MANY Scriptures.....pointing out the DEITY of CHRIST. Find Them...Again..I Will Pray God Will Make All of This CLEAR to You. Herr are just a few, to get started: http://www.aboundingjoy.com/Bible%20studies/Deity%20of%20Christ.htm
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From what I shared earlier: After this I can do no more. Be Blessed now Cowboy. "...Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58). It is clear that Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews, upon hearing this statement, tried to stone Him to death. To the Jews, declaring oneself to be the eternal God was blasphemy worthy of death (Leviticus 24:16). Jesus was claiming to be ETERNAL, just AS His Father is eternal. This was declared AGAIN by John regarding the NATURE of Christ: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God” (John 1:1). From BEFORE recorded time, Jesus AND His Father were ONE IN ESSENCE, and SHARING EQUALLY in the ATTRIBUTES OF ETERNALITY...." Cowboy,I can do no more...God will make all things clear if you ASK HIM Now.
Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58) Yes before Abraham Jesus was, for he was with God in the beginning. And his will was with God. John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews If he was claiming to be GOD in the flesh, he would not have said this, John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. And also he would not speak of his father in 3rd person if they were the same entity. Jesus and his father are one, they work as one, they think as one, their will is one, they are one. |
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From what I shared earlier: After this I can do no more. Be Blessed now Cowboy. "...Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58). It is clear that Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews, upon hearing this statement, tried to stone Him to death. To the Jews, declaring oneself to be the eternal God was blasphemy worthy of death (Leviticus 24:16). Jesus was claiming to be ETERNAL, just AS His Father is eternal. This was declared AGAIN by John regarding the NATURE of Christ: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God” (John 1:1). From BEFORE recorded time, Jesus AND His Father were ONE IN ESSENCE, and SHARING EQUALLY in the ATTRIBUTES OF ETERNALITY...." Cowboy,I can do no more...God will make all things clear if you ASK HIM Now.
Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58) Yes before Abraham Jesus was, for he was with God in the beginning. And his will was with God. John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews If he was claiming to be GOD in the flesh, he would not have said this, John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. And also he would not speak of his father in 3rd person if they were the same entity. Jesus and his father are one, they work as one, they think as one, their will is one, they are one. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 15The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; ----------- To clarify what I'm meaning is this. Jesus is our God, yes. That does not mean he is his father. His will is his father's will, yes. But still two separate entities. When Jesus was on the cross, God the father said, this is my son in whom I'm well pleased. Again, shows two separate beings. Jesus ALWAYS speaks of his father in third person, again another example of separate beings. |
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From what I shared earlier: After this I can do no more. Be Blessed now Cowboy. "...Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58). It is clear that Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews, upon hearing this statement, tried to stone Him to death. To the Jews, declaring oneself to be the eternal God was blasphemy worthy of death (Leviticus 24:16). Jesus was claiming to be ETERNAL, just AS His Father is eternal. This was declared AGAIN by John regarding the NATURE of Christ: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God” (John 1:1). From BEFORE recorded time, Jesus AND His Father were ONE IN ESSENCE, and SHARING EQUALLY in the ATTRIBUTES OF ETERNALITY...." Cowboy,I can do no more...God will make all things clear if you ASK HIM Now.
Jesus Christ, GOD INCARANTE, also verified His DEITY and His ETERNALITY to the people of His day by declaring to them, “Before Abraham was born, I AM” (John 8:58) Yes before Abraham Jesus was, for he was with God in the beginning. And his will was with God. John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus was claiming to be GOD in flesh because the Jews If he was claiming to be GOD in the flesh, he would not have said this, John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. And also he would not speak of his father in 3rd person if they were the same entity. Jesus and his father are one, they work as one, they think as one, their will is one, they are one. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 15The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; ----------- To clarify what I'm meaning is this. Jesus is our God, yes. That does not mean he is his father. His will is his father's will, yes. But still two separate entities. When Jesus was on the cross, God the father said, this is my son in whom I'm well pleased. Again, shows two separate beings. Jesus ALWAYS speaks of his father in third person, again another example of separate beings. Also notice it says the LORD thy God, the lord YOUR God. The lord is our God, who is the lord? Jesus Christ. Jesus is the lord of us all. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 06:53 PM
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Separate PERSONS...YET STILL ONE GOD.
LOOK UP "ELOHIM". GOD SAID "WE" IN GENESIS...REMEBER???? "WE" ARE THE 3 PERSONS IN ONE GOD. ASK GOD to REVEAL the TRUTH of HIS WORD to You Now, Cowboy... I can't. JESUS is LORD OF US ALL.... NOT ONLY LORD OVER US ALL...BUT LORD ABOVE ALL THINGS......not lord....but LORD!!! WHY? BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER GAVE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GLORY NOW TO THE SON....BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID ON THAT CROSS FOR US ALL!!! JESUS.....KING OF KINGS....LORD OF LORDS......GOD OF VERY GOD.... WE WORSHIP JESUS...BECAUSE HE IS LORD ABOVE ALLL..... AND EQUALLY GOD WITH THE FATHER!!!!! |
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Separate PERSONS...YET STILL ONE GOD. LOOK UP "ELOHIM". GOD SAID "WE" IN GENESIS...REMEBER???? THAT IS THE 3 PERSONS IN ONE GOD. ASK GOD to REVEAL the TRUTH of HIS WORD to You Now, Cowboy... I can't. JESUS is LORD OF US ALL.... NOT ONLY LORD OVER US ALL...BUT LORD ABOVE ALL THINGS......not lord....but LORD!!! WHY? BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER GAVE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GLORY NOW TO THE SON....BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID ON THAT CROSS FOR US ALL!!! JESUS.....KING OF KINGS....LORD OF LORDS......GOD OF VERY GOD.... WE WORSHIP JESUS...BECAUSE HE IS LORD ABOVE ALLL..... AND EQUALLY GOD WITH THE FATHER!!!!! BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER GAVE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GLORY NOW TO THE SON....BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID ON THAT CROSS FOR US Notice, gave up all glory to THE SON. That separates the persons right there. What you're saying is God the father gave all the glory to himself. Which he didn't, he gave it all to the son, again shows two separate persons. WE WORSHIP JESUS...BECAUSE HE IS LORD ABOVE ALLL We do not worship Jesus. We worship the father through Jesus. Jesus is the path to God the father, he is the way. AND EQUALLY GOD WITH THE FATHER!!!!! John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Faher is greater than I. ------------ Jesus is not equal to God the father, for he himself said the father was greater then he is. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 07:29 PM
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I DID NOT SAY EQUAL.....I SAID EQUALLY GOD.
WHETHER THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN JESUS OR NOT IS NOT THE POINT..... THAT STILL DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE FACT ..... THAT THEY ARE STILL BOTH EQUALLY GOD. ALSO REMEMBER....GOD THE FATHER GAVE ALLLLL THE GLORY TO JESUS NOW. COWBOY....READ THRU THESE SCRIPTURES.....POINTING OUT THE DEITY OF CHRIST. THEN BE STILLLLL....AND ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU HIS TRUTH. sorry about the caps...am in a hurry and have to run now 
Hebrews 1:8 8 But UNTO THE Son He[God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. John 1:1-14 1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD . 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory AS OF the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Col 1:15-17 15 Who is the IMAGE of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY HIM, and FOR HIM : 17 And he is before all things, and BY HIM all things consist. John 10:30-33 30 I and my Father ARE ONE. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 12:45 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that SENT me. John 14:7-9 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, WHO IS OVER ALL, God blessed for ever. Amen. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY . 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was MANIFEST in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST ;
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I DID NOT SAY EQUAL.....I SAID EQUALLY GOD. WHETHER THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN JESUS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE FACT ..... THAT THEY ARE STILL BOTH EQUALLY GOD. RCOWBOY....READ THRU THESE SCRIPTURES.....POINTING OUT THE DEITY OF CHRIST. THEN BE STILLLLL....AND ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU HIS TRUTH. sorry about the caps...
Hebrews 1:8 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. John 1:1-14 1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Col 1:15-17 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. John 10:30-33 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 12:45 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. John 14:7-9 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
I already knew Jesus was god in that sense. Know ye not that ye are gods? Jesus is the God of Gods the lord of lords. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 07:24 PM
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You SOUND like a born again believer,
even QUOTE the same scriptures AS a born again believer, but you DON'T BELIEVE the scriptures in the SAME way as a Born again believer. |
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You SOUND like a born again believer, even QUOTE the same scriptures AS a born again believer, but you DON'T BELIEVE the scriptures in the SAME way as a Born again believer. Matthew 7 1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. --------------- And besides that who are you to tell me I do not quote the scriptures same as a born again believer? Do Catholics not interpret them differently then say Baptists? And seventh day Adventist different then Catholics? And so forth? So who are Christians then? |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 08:07 PM
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Christians are those who truly have been BORN AGAIN.
ALLL Born again christians(Believers) AGREE AT THE VERY LEAST, on the BASIC TRUTHS of Christianity. Many People carry the "label" of christian, without neccesarily having been born again yet.. No ..not judging you Precious..just concerned that we do not agree on even the VERY BASICS of Christianity.... so that is why I am saying...Go Spend time with God. The enemy would love to deceive people into believing they are born again..when they may not be born again at all. |
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Christians are those who truly have been BORN AGAIN. ALLL Born again christians(Believers) AGREE AT THE VERY LEAST, on the BASIC TRUTHS of Christianity. Many People carry the "label" of christian, without neccesarily having been born again yet.. I carry no title. I'm forced a title by the world. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ our father and follow his will the best to my ability. If you wish to call that a Christian, a Baptist, a Catholic, or any other possibility that is everyone else's choice. I follow no "religion", I follow the scriptures given to us by our lord Jesus Christ. |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tue 08/30/11 07:52 PM
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Christians are those who truly have been BORN AGAIN. ALLL Born again christians(Believers) AGREE AT THE VERY LEAST, on the BASIC TRUTHS of Christianity. Many People carry the "label" of christian, without neccesarily having been born again yet.. I carry no title. I'm forced a title by the world. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ our father and follow his will the best to my ability. If you wish to call that a Christian, a Baptist, a Catholic, or any other possibility that is everyone else's choice. I follow no "religion", I follow the scriptures given to us by our lord Jesus Christ. So what are the beliefs ALL the different beliefs agree on? Heck they don't all even agree Jesus Christ is the only begotten child of God the father. Some Baptists, I don't know for all, but for some I do know they do not believe Jesus to be the only begotten child of God the father, they believe Jesus to be a mere prophet. Some believe the Sabbath to be Saturday some believe it to be Sunday. Some don't even believe it necessary to celebrate the Sabbath. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 08/30/11 07:54 PM
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ALLL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WORSHIP JESUS AS LORD.
THEY CALL JESUS LORD.....NOT "lord". ALLLL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS AGREE ON THE BASIC TRUTHS OF GOD'S HOLY WORD. JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE BORN AGAIN . |
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ALLL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WORSHIP JESUS AS LORD. THEY CALL JESUS LORD.....NOT "lord". LORD, lord, is the SAME thing. It's not spelt differently, it doesn't have different meanings. It is the same thing, just one in lower case one in upper case. |
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ALLL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WORSHIP JESUS AS LORD. THEY CALL JESUS LORD.....NOT "lord". LORD, lord, is the SAME thing. It's not spelt differently, it doesn't have different meanings. It is the same thing, just one in lower case one in upper case. And besides that, even the bible doesn't have it in all caps all the time. ------------------- Revelation 17:14 14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. --------------------- Straight from the bible it is spelt just like that. L is caps, rest lower case. |
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