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josie, from how I see it, he gives us what we can handle I say, thank god I did not have twins, it doesnt insinuate that those who have twins didnt also have gods grace, it just means that I know I couldnt handle it and God didnt send it to me likewise with disasters, or people who escape from killers, ,,when they say 'Thank God he was watching over me', I dont see that as a slam against those who werent able to escape,, it is merely aknowledging and appreciating what they have,,,, just my two cents I know that I have never been given more than I can handle, but it is not the same for everyone, some people have been given more then they can handle and commit suicide. I know and understand what you are saying, it wasnt that I was talking about its the, So they left this world what is so harmful about that.. To a Christian you look at it as ok now you are at peace, but thats not the case for everyone, and i guess its a little like everything, you just have to respect other people , especially if something has just gone wrong. Really the last thing you want to hear if you dont believe in God is Oh but he is in a better place .. Oh well just my opinion. I am always happy to talk about god, but would never say anything that could hurt someone at a bad time. That can actually turn people away from God, not draw them near.  Just my opinion,, I have enough of them.. |
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Whoops, sorry, well you are americans lots of bad things happen there perhaps, but don't bad things happen everywhere...here we may get killed by a person there you may get eatan by a croc I wish you had been around to mention the toilet paper, could have emptied it from the dunny and left him there, that would have amused us for weeks. well it does give a whole new meaning to "turn the other cheek" Hmmmmm but my children did think about violence, as my youngest who was 8 at the time would not sleep without his knife, and my 14 year old had two knives that he kept with him, they did that for over a year, after i got them back from him, as they where worried he would try and take them again. that may be bitter sweet, because it may be a good thing that they become skilled in the ways of how to handle a knife....but are the knives solely because of the ex, or are there a possibility that also incude into the worries are the dangers presented by some of the animal and insect life there ... No, my children are not scared of the animals, here, they have grown up with snakes and other dangerous things they dont worry them.. They have pet snakes. They wouldnt think about using a knife on an animal. Hmm that sounds bad, they actually wouldnt use it on a human either it is just that knives the knives gave them a way to protect themselves.. so it was cool. animal rarely hurt you without a reason. humans do. it's impossible to do anything without a reason, that applies to animals, humans and unseen invisible things .... also I wasn't suggesting that the kids were scare of any animals as to why they had the knives...but a blade does come in handy when sleeping in a bed and a Brown Snake crawls up there nah we havent had a brown in our beds, under the mats, in the laundry and just sliding around, but the beds are up higher, so they havent bothered.. now maybe a giant insect but no snakes inthe beds  jack jumper? |
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i think most of religion is a sham..
i am sure if ur true to it and are 'religious' about it..i could still work for u provided u use ur own mind to discern the information u receive from texts and ppl.. all the answers u seek lie in you..and remember that u are 100% responsible for everything u attract in ur life.. enjoy! |
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And yep bad things do happen everywhere, but I guess you get used to what you live with, the crocs and snakes are not really dangerous, well sort of not dangerous, well at least we dont take any notice of the danger, but are careful. I see that they can run for a short distance faster than a horse,or may be resting hidden in the trees and not in the water, you ever encounter one that chased you |
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Edited by
josie68
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Fri 04/29/11 05:18 AM
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And yep bad things do happen everywhere, but I guess you get used to what you live with, the crocs and snakes are not really dangerous, well sort of not dangerous, well at least we dont take any notice of the danger, but are careful. I see that they can run for a short distance faster than a horse,or may be resting hidden in the trees and not in the water, you ever encounter one that chased you Nope but they have taken cows from the edge of the water when the kids where fishing.. You just do not go close enough to be where you are in danger, we have a pretty big fishing boat that's safe enough. You just never ever hang your hands over the edge, or be really dumb and wash your hands in the water. Normally its the tourists who do dumb things and think its safe to stand on the edge Not realising that they can get you really quick. Its the same with out ocean, there are signs saying not to swim cause of the stingers and the crocs, yet you still see people walking in the edge of the water, absolutely nuts.. But really Australia's Northern territory is a gorgeous place and its the remoteness and the wildness that makes it so lovely. It is different from everywhere else. Because honestly when we landed in Sydney there wasnt any difference to Los angelos sorry cant spell that, but they where both huge places with big building and millions of people so it was just another busy place. The Australian outback is something that you will not ever see anything else like. Its gorgeous. Whoops sorry I love my home. |
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Whoops, sorry, well you are americans lots of bad things happen there perhaps, but don't bad things happen everywhere...here we may get killed by a person there you may get eatan by a croc I wish you had been around to mention the toilet paper, could have emptied it from the dunny and left him there, that would have amused us for weeks. well it does give a whole new meaning to "turn the other cheek" Hmmmmm but my children did think about violence, as my youngest who was 8 at the time would not sleep without his knife, and my 14 year old had two knives that he kept with him, they did that for over a year, after i got them back from him, as they where worried he would try and take them again. that may be bitter sweet, because it may be a good thing that they become skilled in the ways of how to handle a knife....but are the knives solely because of the ex, or are there a possibility that also incude into the worries are the dangers presented by some of the animal and insect life there ... No, my children are not scared of the animals, here, they have grown up with snakes and other dangerous things they dont worry them.. They have pet snakes. They wouldnt think about using a knife on an animal. Hmm that sounds bad, they actually wouldnt use it on a human either it is just that knives the knives gave them a way to protect themselves.. so it was cool. animal rarely hurt you without a reason. humans do. it's impossible to do anything without a reason, that applies to animals, humans and unseen invisible things .... also I wasn't suggesting that the kids were scare of any animals as to why they had the knives...but a blade does come in handy when sleeping in a bed and a Brown Snake crawls up there nah we havent had a brown in our beds, under the mats, in the laundry and just sliding around, but the beds are up higher, so they havent bothered.. now maybe a giant insect but no snakes inthe beds jack jumper?  nah we dont have big insects, poisenous frogs, but the insects are cool, oh except the mozzies, they carry diseases so you cant let them bite you to often.
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josie, from how I see it, he gives us what we can handle I say, thank god I did not have twins, it doesnt insinuate that those who have twins didnt also have gods grace, it just means that I know I couldnt handle it and God didnt send it to me likewise with disasters, or people who escape from killers, ,,when they say 'Thank God he was watching over me', I dont see that as a slam against those who werent able to escape,, it is merely aknowledging and appreciating what they have,,,, just my two cents I know that I have never been given more than I can handle, but it is not the same for everyone, some people have been given more then they can handle and commit suicide. I know and understand what you are saying, it wasnt that I was talking about its the, So they left this world what is so harmful about that.. To a Christian you look at it as ok now you are at peace, but thats not the case for everyone, and i guess its a little like everything, you just have to respect other people , especially if something has just gone wrong. Really the last thing you want to hear if you dont believe in God is Oh but he is in a better place .. Oh well just my opinion. I am always happy to talk about god, but would never say anything that could hurt someone at a bad time. That can actually turn people away from God, not draw them near. Just my opinion,, I have enough of them.. I understand. I dont expect others to be mindreaders though. I dont believe in Goddesses, but I dont see what would be offensive in someone saying that my loved one was with a Goddess. I wouldnt agree with it, but how could it be perceived as anything but an attempt at consoling? WE speak so much of honesty when it comes to opinions about anything else, and 'keeping it real', but if you have religious beliefs people want you to put a muzzle on those same 'honest' opinions ,,,shrugs |
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josie, from how I see it, he gives us what we can handle I say, thank god I did not have twins, it doesnt insinuate that those who have twins didnt also have gods grace, it just means that I know I couldnt handle it and God didnt send it to me likewise with disasters, or people who escape from killers, ,,when they say 'Thank God he was watching over me', I dont see that as a slam against those who werent able to escape,, it is merely aknowledging and appreciating what they have,,,, just my two cents I know that I have never been given more than I can handle, but it is not the same for everyone, some people have been given more then they can handle and commit suicide. I know and understand what you are saying, it wasnt that I was talking about its the, So they left this world what is so harmful about that.. To a Christian you look at it as ok now you are at peace, but thats not the case for everyone, and i guess its a little like everything, you just have to respect other people , especially if something has just gone wrong. Really the last thing you want to hear if you dont believe in God is Oh but he is in a better place .. Oh well just my opinion. I am always happy to talk about god, but would never say anything that could hurt someone at a bad time. That can actually turn people away from God, not draw them near. Just my opinion,, I have enough of them.. I understand. I dont expect others to be mindreaders though. I dont believe in Goddesses, but I dont see what would be offensive in someone saying that my loved one was with a Goddess. I wouldnt agree with it, but how could it be perceived as anything but an attempt at consoling? WE speak so much of honesty when it comes to opinions about anything else, and 'keeping it real', but if you have religious beliefs people want you to put a muzzle on those same 'honest' opinions ,,,shrugs Yep I know, and everyone can have opinions, its just that sometimes christians are not very sensitive. It is not about what is right or wrong, its just that there are times when you have to respect how others feel about your faith. And I think faith is great, I just think that you still have to be respectful of others beliefs especially when things are bad. Normally your comfort is enough. |
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Now iof your Agnostic.. ăg-nŏs'tĭk) n. 1. a.One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. b.One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. 2.One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something. adj. 1.Relating to or being an agnostic. 2.Doubtful or noncommittal: "Though I am agnostic on what terms to use, I have no doubt that human infants come with an enormous 'acquisitiveness' for discovering patterns" (William H. Calvin). Non committal..They wonder if thier is something else. Just not willing to make a effort to see if "this something else" is real. Easier to stay put and not start a fire. Burning is a nomenclature. What are they? Skeptical. can never believe in anything.. The boogie man is a possibilty also..what good do they do for themselves or others? they never know what to do.. Thier..... Say its impossible.. 2.. Skeptical.. 3.. Athiesm? No can't do that.. not sure u see. 4 Doubtful 5 Non Committal 6 Thier numbers freaks..Gotta be a Pattern.. or can not be true. 7 Very inquizative.. yet can not make up thier mind. Lot of good qualities.. where did they come from. The inquizetive mind should wonder where did all this get started. whats the beginning. Manmade but who thought this science of unknowing up? They just can not figure anything out so the Bow out of life. Yea I wonder where the roots of AGNOCTIC are really from.. anyone know? Blessings...Miles "Captain, the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is 'I do not know.'" -- Lt. Commander Data And to add that, just because someone is sure their view of the Universe is THE correct one does NOT make it so. Nor does it hold more sway by saying that agnostics have 'no idea'. It's faulty logic, known as a false dichotomy. It's also pretty inaccurate to say 'they can't figure anything out, so they bow out of life.' If anything, it's the religious who have sandbagged research into the very roots and mechanics of life itself by trying to outlaw stem cell research and other such fields of inquiry on the basis of THEIR religious beliefs. -Kerry O. |
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