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Topic: Sticks and Stones
CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/27/11 08:18 PM




But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.

mylifetoday's photo
Wed 04/27/11 08:33 PM





But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/27/11 08:43 PM






But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/27/11 08:46 PM







But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.


At first I was depressed as you are. I was on meds for the depression and thinking of seeking mental help. It took me a while to realize this life is only temporary. After this life I hope to be made perfect once again, I have faith I will be healed of any disorders I have now by Jesus Christ. So with this life being temporary, you might as well enjoy this rocky ride people call life. Keep your head up and reach for the stars. The only thing, the only person that can hold you back is yourself my friend.

mylifetoday's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:03 PM








But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.


At first I was depressed as you are. I was on meds for the depression and thinking of seeking mental help. It took me a while to realize this life is only temporary. After this life I hope to be made perfect once again, I have faith I will be healed of any disorders I have now by Jesus Christ. So with this life being temporary, you might as well enjoy this rocky ride people call life. Keep your head up and reach for the stars. The only thing, the only person that can hold you back is yourself my friend.


Of course I am the only one that can hold me back. But to imply that I don't have a strong enough will or faith really gets under my skin. That is the same BS I dealt with all my life. My family is still in denial I have anything wrong. That is the real tragedy here. I have 9 siblings and I am pretty sure a couple of them could use help as well.

Did God give us the medications to help or did Satan give them as a temptation?

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:13 PM









But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.


At first I was depressed as you are. I was on meds for the depression and thinking of seeking mental help. It took me a while to realize this life is only temporary. After this life I hope to be made perfect once again, I have faith I will be healed of any disorders I have now by Jesus Christ. So with this life being temporary, you might as well enjoy this rocky ride people call life. Keep your head up and reach for the stars. The only thing, the only person that can hold you back is yourself my friend.


Of course I am the only one that can hold me back. But to imply that I don't have a strong enough will or faith really gets under my skin. That is the same BS I dealt with all my life. My family is still in denial I have anything wrong. That is the real tragedy here. I have 9 siblings and I am pretty sure a couple of them could use help as well.

Did God give us the medications to help or did Satan give them as a temptation?


God gave us the medication. God doesn't do FOR us, God does WITH us. He will again HELP us, not DO for us. I apologize again for stating in such a way, I didn't mean for it come across like that. I do not judge your relation with God and I'm sorry it came across like that. But I ask you, when you're feeling down in the dumps, depressed to just think it's ok, cause some day you will walk perfectly with Jesus Christ and have no worries or "disabilities".

Word of advice:
There is no such thing as a "disability". The only thing that disables oneself is them self.

Yes you have a titled "disability". But what does it truly keep you from doing? Is it controllable by you, at least a lot to most of the time? If you can control most to all the time, why is it such a bummer? Why not just brush off the times when you can not control it?

I know not of exactly what you deal with, only you know that. So I'm sorry if I speak in an ignorant way. But I ask you my friend, stay strong and keep the faith that one day you will not have to deal with this bipolar.

mylifetoday's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:27 PM










But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

----------------------
Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
-----------------------

Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.


At first I was depressed as you are. I was on meds for the depression and thinking of seeking mental help. It took me a while to realize this life is only temporary. After this life I hope to be made perfect once again, I have faith I will be healed of any disorders I have now by Jesus Christ. So with this life being temporary, you might as well enjoy this rocky ride people call life. Keep your head up and reach for the stars. The only thing, the only person that can hold you back is yourself my friend.


Of course I am the only one that can hold me back. But to imply that I don't have a strong enough will or faith really gets under my skin. That is the same BS I dealt with all my life. My family is still in denial I have anything wrong. That is the real tragedy here. I have 9 siblings and I am pretty sure a couple of them could use help as well.

Did God give us the medications to help or did Satan give them as a temptation?


God gave us the medication. God doesn't do FOR us, God does WITH us. He will again HELP us, not DO for us. I apologize again for stating in such a way, I didn't mean for it come across like that. I do not judge your relation with God and I'm sorry it came across like that. But I ask you, when you're feeling down in the dumps, depressed to just think it's ok, cause some day you will walk perfectly with Jesus Christ and have no worries or "disabilities".

Word of advice:
There is no such thing as a "disability". The only thing that disables oneself is them self.

Yes you have a titled "disability". But what does it truly keep you from doing? Is it controllable by you, at least a lot to most of the time? If you can control most to all the time, why is it such a bummer? Why not just brush off the times when you can not control it?

I know not of exactly what you deal with, only you know that. So I'm sorry if I speak in an ignorant way. But I ask you my friend, stay strong and keep the faith that one day you will not have to deal with this bipolar.


Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.

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Wed 04/27/11 09:54 PM











But regardless of any chemicals in you, in your mind the reason one gets depressed is a lack of faith in something. People don't just get depressed for no reason.


so Christian that get depress or get sick and go to to the doctor have a lack of faith

and those Christian hospitals don't actually have doctors in them trying to cure depression or other sickness with medicine...they just have priests in them performing faith healings and exorcisms

the power of Christ compels you...get out you demon ...tell me thy name so I can remove thee heathenous self and heal this depress soul ..


We have sickness in this world for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. Yes depression is feeling bad, down, sad, about something you fear is either going to happen or isn't going to happen. Why fear things to come if one has faith in God that it will either happen or won't "would depend on the desire of the person, depending on different circumstances".

But yes, Christians that get depressed are merely displaying a lack of faith in what ever they are "depressed" about. They have let Satan win that battle, putting doubt in their heart.


Um, Cowboy. You just said I haven't had faith the majority of my life. I was recently diagnosed as being bipolar which made me depressed more often than not. I was depressed about almost everything in my life at one point or another.

Since I have started my treatment, my very first thought was, "if this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gyped my whole life."

I seriously disagree with your assessment here.


Got a verse for you bro.

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Luke 9:23

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
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Now I have a brotherly suggestion. There is no need to be depressed of this bipolar you have. There is no need to let it bring you down, don't let your cross hold you back my friend. Pick your cross up and follow Jesus "ignore your bipolar and follow Jesus". Just as Jesus rose from the grave, so will you "one day you will be healed and won't have to deal with bipolar". Keep that in mind my friend. Don't worry about the now and what you don't feel you can do. There will be a time you won't have to deal with this cross, you won't have it burden you any longer. No need to worry about what you don't feel like you can change now. Have faith, and one day this cross will be lifted off you and you will be set free.


Cowboy, you don't have to live with it. Don't talk to me about things you don't understand.

That thought and attitude is why it took me 40+ years to get the help I needed. Because of the attitude in my family about mental disorders, I had to tell myself and seriously believe I was a complete failure as a person before I could seek help. Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?

I used to believe what you are saying. But when I believed that I has to contiually ask myself why my faith wasn't strong enough to over come this debilitating disease. That alone really messed with my head as well.

I guess by your definition I still don't have faith because I am relying on medication to keep those terrible thoughts away.

Guess I should stop taking them and pray and beat myself up again when my faith isn't strong enough to overcome it.



Do you have any idea what you have to go through to be willing to call yourself a complete failure as a human being?


Yes I do sir. I live with disabilities everyday. Can you imagine waking up at age 19, thinking you were still 16? Doing this a few times until it finally settles in that you are 19? Can you imagine living everyday, possibly not remember the previous day or week? As in feel like you went to bed on the 6th, but you wake up and realize it's the 12th? Or any other number of possibilities of similar situations? Can you imagine, waking up everyday and having to look immediately at the date to see if you are waking up the next day as to what you think was yesterday? This is a demon I face everyday my friend. Not so much the being 16, I've grown past that, but the rest of it I deal with everyday. Not comparing us or anything of such, just letting you know other's deal with mental illnesses as well that you may or may not know of.

I feel like a failure as a human being everyday. I don't have a life if you will. I don't have to get up at a certain time to go to work, nothing is usually planned for the day eg., work, then shop, ect. I'm afraid I'm going to purely be a let down to any woman. For instance of having a great romantic emotional felt night just her and I. And I completely forget it the next day.

I ask that you just carry this cross you deal with and truck on like nothings wrong my friend. Don't give Satan pleasure in your discomfort.


At first I was depressed as you are. I was on meds for the depression and thinking of seeking mental help. It took me a while to realize this life is only temporary. After this life I hope to be made perfect once again, I have faith I will be healed of any disorders I have now by Jesus Christ. So with this life being temporary, you might as well enjoy this rocky ride people call life. Keep your head up and reach for the stars. The only thing, the only person that can hold you back is yourself my friend.


Of course I am the only one that can hold me back. But to imply that I don't have a strong enough will or faith really gets under my skin. That is the same BS I dealt with all my life. My family is still in denial I have anything wrong. That is the real tragedy here. I have 9 siblings and I am pretty sure a couple of them could use help as well.

Did God give us the medications to help or did Satan give them as a temptation?


God gave us the medication. God doesn't do FOR us, God does WITH us. He will again HELP us, not DO for us. I apologize again for stating in such a way, I didn't mean for it come across like that. I do not judge your relation with God and I'm sorry it came across like that. But I ask you, when you're feeling down in the dumps, depressed to just think it's ok, cause some day you will walk perfectly with Jesus Christ and have no worries or "disabilities".

Word of advice:
There is no such thing as a "disability". The only thing that disables oneself is them self.

Yes you have a titled "disability". But what does it truly keep you from doing? Is it controllable by you, at least a lot to most of the time? If you can control most to all the time, why is it such a bummer? Why not just brush off the times when you can not control it?

I know not of exactly what you deal with, only you know that. So I'm sorry if I speak in an ignorant way. But I ask you my friend, stay strong and keep the faith that one day you will not have to deal with this bipolar.


Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.

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Wed 04/27/11 10:02 PM




Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.

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Wed 04/27/11 10:15 PM





Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


I know how you feel bro, not exactly as I'm not you nor do I face bipolar. But I can semi relate. It's truly not a good thing to fake being happy. Just makes it much worse inside usually cause you know it's pretend. Bipolar is who you are, if you're depressed on how people view you, don't worry about it bro. Nothing they can do or say will effect you but the way you let them. People's words mean nothing less you allow them to mean something. If what they say about you isn't true, then so be it, let'em say it cause you know in your heart it's not true. People that don't accept you for who you are, aren't worth the time of day my friend. And no not every one faces this same thing and or depression as this. Everyone's pain is different, EVEN if it is same or similar situation. The pain is different for each different person. But I ask you, please don't let it bother you so much. If people don't like you on your worse days, they don't deserve you on your best.

You bring this depression upon yourself my friend. You allow it to effect you so much in a negative way. What does how they see you truly effect your life directly except the way you let it? What does it truly matter if someone thinks you're weird for your bipolar? How does them thinking this change your life, except the way you allow it to effect it and or change it?

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Wed 04/27/11 10:18 PM
Edited by josie68 on Wed 04/27/11 10:20 PM





Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy

And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.

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Wed 04/27/11 10:22 PM






Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy


Exactly

We all have our own different "disabilities" and or strange characteristics. We aren't all the same. There is no need to be depressed about one's "differences", we all have them. If people aren't willing to accept you for being "different" then them, then it's their fault, their loss.

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Wed 04/27/11 10:32 PM






Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy

And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.



And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.


That's reassuring. That's how I see it. If the woman loves me for who I am, they will accept me for who I am and or who I may or may not be and what I can or can't do.

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Wed 04/27/11 11:52 PM



Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy

And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.


Thanks Josie - flowerforyou

How many times have I said that today now? happy

I know. I am good with who I am. But I appreciate the reminders. And it is really fun to be strange and watch everyone's reaction! :thumbsup: :laughing: :laughing:

Cowboy, bipolar is NOT who I am. It affects how I react to situations. It does not define me.

I truly am happy with who I am today.

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Thu 04/28/11 12:28 AM






Since I started the treatment I have only been down once or twice.

Without it, I am continually down and depressed. It is not an occasional thing. It is ever present. It is the reverse of what you are saying. There are only brief moments where I can forget about it.


What exactly does being bipolar keep you from doing? And how does it keep you from doing as such? No need to answer if this question is to personal and or you can send it via email on mingle if you wish.


Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


I know how you feel bro, not exactly as I'm not you nor do I face bipolar. But I can semi relate. It's truly not a good thing to fake being happy. Just makes it much worse inside usually cause you know it's pretend. Bipolar is who you are, if you're depressed on how people view you, don't worry about it bro. Nothing they can do or say will effect you but the way you let them. People's words mean nothing less you allow them to mean something. If what they say about you isn't true, then so be it, let'em say it cause you know in your heart it's not true. People that don't accept you for who you are, aren't worth the time of day my friend. And no not every one faces this same thing and or depression as this. Everyone's pain is different, EVEN if it is same or similar situation. The pain is different for each different person. But I ask you, please don't let it bother you so much. If people don't like you on your worse days, they don't deserve you on your best.

You bring this depression upon yourself my friend. You allow it to effect you so much in a negative way. What does how they see you truly effect your life directly except the way you let it? What does it truly matter if someone thinks you're weird for your bipolar? How does them thinking this change your life, except the way you allow it to effect it and or change it?


Hmmm life is not always Black and White, sometimes we are born with things that are not balanced correctly, for whatever reasons they are, there are things to help..
For me Without medication i would have died before my first birthday, I spent most of my life in and out of hosipitals trying to survive, without medication I would be dead,
Not through lack of faith, I have faith in God, but he does not heal everyone and it would be ridiculous to believe that he would..

For Mylifetoday, his highs and lows are way above ours the only way to imagine it is you at your very lowest and then go way lower, or you at your highest and then go higher, sadly it is normally lower than higher,its a feeling of hopelessness without knowing why you even feel it. medication does not take it away completely but helps to balance them, it is not from focusing on what people think or say, its just an imbalance in his body that causes it, without the medication it is almost impossible to control. yes relaxing and some things can help, but if something as simple as a pill can keep him on a more even field it just makes life easier.

And honestly do you think that Satan really wants to invent things to make peole feel better, I doubt it, so thank God and use whatever is need in your life.

No illness is ever easy and nobody can ever understand what you are going through so probably the best thing anyone can do is just say . Hey if you need help i am here.

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Thu 04/28/11 12:34 AM




Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy

And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.


Thanks Josie - flowerforyou

How many times have I said that today now? happy

I know. I am good with who I am. But I appreciate the reminders. And it is really fun to be strange and watch everyone's reaction! :thumbsup: :laughing: :laughing:

Cowboy, bipolar is NOT who I am. It affects how I react to situations. It does not define me.

I truly am happy with who I am today.




You are one of my best friends here, and maybe its because we are strange, but then what is strange, maybe we are the normal ones.

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Thu 04/28/11 12:55 AM
There is not one among us who does not have

a "handicap" of some kind or another.


But God gives us wisdom to know how to Overcome ,

one step at a time.

We do our part.... He does the rest.



:heart::heart::heart:

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Thu 04/28/11 01:02 AM





Not too personal.

But I can't explain it. I have tried and the answer I always get back is. "Oh, so you are just depressed once in awhile like everyone else is." Um, no...

One of the things I told the doc was that I can fake being happy. Not happy in where most people see me as having something bothering me but putting on a happy face. Fake it to the point everyone seriously thinks I am genuinely happy. He said that is one of the signs. I know, now a lot of people are going to say they do the same thing. I just can't explain it. The words I use sound like the same thing everyone else deals with.


Well I dont care, I love the person you are,,, so there..

hmmmm do you think you are stranger than me....nah we are both strange.. happy

And cowboy any women who loves you wont care...
You will just have to be romantic again the next day to make sure you remember one of them, and at least you wont get bored.


Thanks Josie - flowerforyou

How many times have I said that today now? happy

I know. I am good with who I am. But I appreciate the reminders. And it is really fun to be strange and watch everyone's reaction! :thumbsup: :laughing: :laughing:

Cowboy, bipolar is NOT who I am. It affects how I react to situations. It does not define me.

I truly am happy with who I am today.




You are one of my best friends here, and maybe its because we are strange, but then what is strange, maybe we are the normal ones.




rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Didn't think of that! slaphead

you are a very good friend to have. waving smile2

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Thu 04/28/11 01:05 AM
Josie......you are truly a beautiful person...

with such gentleness of soul.

Never stop being who you are
flowerforyou


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Thu 04/28/11 01:07 AM

There is not one among us who does not have

a "handicap" of some kind or another.


But God gives us wisdom to know how to Overcome ,

one step at a time.

We do our part.... He does the rest.



:heart::heart::heart:


Yup,

I believe if you are not "healed" from your "handicap" that you have it to learn or understand something or to share something important with someone. and you will never know who that is.

That is part of the reason I don't have a problem talking about it. The other part, it doesn't bother me that I do have it. flowerforyou

Just hard to explain what it is like to someone that hasn't had it in their lives in some way. To give an idea ... The divorce rate for couples where at least one person is bipolar is as high as 90%.


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