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Edited by
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The same time that the government stops getting into wars... This arguement will never be won, I agree that the teacher had no right whatsoever to hit the girl, but at the same time, why should the authorities raise our children for us. The parents should have been called when the girl kicked him and they should have dealt with her. I hate that people spank their children but if it works for them so be it. It is not my place to tell someone how to raise their children. I can tell you that if my kid hits me, i am not calling the police to deal with it. It's hard enough nowadays to raise children without other people telling them how to do it. Personally I have never seen a time out work, the parent usually ends up sitting in time out with the child to make sure they take the time out, and then, the kid goes right back to doing what they were put in time out for. There needs to be a good discipline system that is acceptable by all people and that will never happen as all kids are different. I agree to some extent. There are children who have never been struck and are CEOs of big companies today. We only hear about the bad kids. I just have never found one healthy conclusion from spanking. When someone hits us it brings fear, granted fear is a control but not a healthy one. Hitting doesn't teach respect or a healthy problem solving or anything basically except that someone will hit when they feel like it. And I know people that are CEOs, executives, managers, principles and even superintendents that have been spanked. What's your point? This is what I am referring to. The point is that there are lots of good non spanked adults in this world to date. and so many who refuse to believe that is a reault of balance in their lives and so many who refuse to believe there are lots of good , happy, spanked adults as well seriously, the argument that spanked children are abused or pity worthy is just as inane as the argument that unspanked children never respect authority happiness and health are the goal , if those results are achieved, who is ANYONE to judge the method,,,,? |
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sorry, but the violence we are seeing comes from a BALANCE of things, we had much less violence during times when spanking was much more the norm.
This statement is untrue. Violence was more accepted in our past than it is now. |
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The same time that the government stops getting into wars... This arguement will never be won, I agree that the teacher had no right whatsoever to hit the girl, but at the same time, why should the authorities raise our children for us. The parents should have been called when the girl kicked him and they should have dealt with her. I hate that people spank their children but if it works for them so be it. It is not my place to tell someone how to raise their children. I can tell you that if my kid hits me, i am not calling the police to deal with it. It's hard enough nowadays to raise children without other people telling them how to do it. Personally I have never seen a time out work, the parent usually ends up sitting in time out with the child to make sure they take the time out, and then, the kid goes right back to doing what they were put in time out for. There needs to be a good discipline system that is acceptable by all people and that will never happen as all kids are different. I agree to some extent. There are children who have never been struck and are CEOs of big companies today. We only hear about the bad kids. I just have never found one healthy conclusion from spanking. When someone hits us it brings fear, granted fear is a control but not a healthy one. Hitting doesn't teach respect or a healthy problem solving or anything basically except that someone will hit when they feel like it. And I know people that are CEOs, executives, managers, principles and even superintendents that have been spanked. What's your point? This is what I am referring to. The point is that there are lots of good non spanked adults in this world to date. And there are just as many good spanked ADULTS in this world to date. Again, what's your point? |
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So if you take away your childs belongings to punish them, they should be allowed to phone the police and press theft charges one you, or when you put them in time out or ground them, they can press kidnapping or hostage charges on you.
So for any punishment you give your child they can fight back and you'll get more in trouble than the kid will. I don't even know why this keeps coming up lol, no one will ever agree on it. |
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So if you take away your childs belongings to punish them, they should be allowed to phone the police and press theft charges one you, or when you put them in time out or ground them, they can press kidnapping or hostage charges on you. So for any punishment you give your child they can fight back and you'll get more in trouble than the kid will. I don't even know why this keeps coming up lol, no one will ever agree on it. possibly the most logical post in the thread,,,lol tiring ,, huh? |
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I guess I have to keep bringing up the Unknowingly Unhappy Spanked Children Anonymous club.
It doesn't make any sense to say I am a Happy Spanked Child. The people who loved you struck you. There is nothing happy about that. |
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what makes no sense is telling others whether or not they are happy or were happy children,,,,
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So if you take away your childs belongings to punish them, they should be allowed to phone the police and press theft charges one you, or when you put them in time out or ground them, they can press kidnapping or hostage charges on you. So for any punishment you give your child they can fight back and you'll get more in trouble than the kid will. I don't even know why this keeps coming up lol, no one will ever agree on it. I am not trying to get an agreement. I like to point out the absurd. And the concept of spanking although very widely used is absurd in and of itself. |
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sorry, but the violence we are seeing comes from a BALANCE of things, we had much less violence during times when spanking was much more the norm. This statement is untrue. Violence was more accepted in our past than it is now. not untrue, violent crime was lower, notice I never tried to ATTRIBUTE that difference on whether people were spanking, Im just negating the argument that increased violence is because people spank |
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The same time that the government stops getting into wars... This arguement will never be won, I agree that the teacher had no right whatsoever to hit the girl, but at the same time, why should the authorities raise our children for us. The parents should have been called when the girl kicked him and they should have dealt with her. I hate that people spank their children but if it works for them so be it. It is not my place to tell someone how to raise their children. I can tell you that if my kid hits me, i am not calling the police to deal with it. It's hard enough nowadays to raise children without other people telling them how to do it. Personally I have never seen a time out work, the parent usually ends up sitting in time out with the child to make sure they take the time out, and then, the kid goes right back to doing what they were put in time out for. There needs to be a good discipline system that is acceptable by all people and that will never happen as all kids are different. I agree to some extent. There are children who have never been struck and are CEOs of big companies today. We only hear about the bad kids. I just have never found one healthy conclusion from spanking. When someone hits us it brings fear, granted fear is a control but not a healthy one. Hitting doesn't teach respect or a healthy problem solving or anything basically except that someone will hit when they feel like it. And I know people that are CEOs, executives, managers, principles and even superintendents that have been spanked. What's your point? This is what I am referring to. The point is that there are lots of good non spanked adults in this world to date. And there are just as many good spanked ADULTS in this world to date. Again, what's your point? That is the point. Spanking is not the absolute guarantee of a good child. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Sun 08/01/10 05:12 PM
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sorry, but the violence we are seeing comes from a BALANCE of things, we had much less violence during times when spanking was much more the norm. This statement is untrue. Violence was more accepted in our past than it is now. not untrue, violent crime was lower, notice I never tried to ATTRIBUTE that difference on whether people were spanking, Im just negating the argument that increased violence is because people spank By population, no, violent crime was not lower. Wife beating was legal, child abuse was legal, etc... so not even reported. |
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Edited by
kayak69
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Sun 08/01/10 05:16 PM
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The same time that the government stops getting into wars... This arguement will never be won, I agree that the teacher had no right whatsoever to hit the girl, but at the same time, why should the authorities raise our children for us. The parents should have been called when the girl kicked him and they should have dealt with her. I hate that people spank their children but if it works for them so be it. It is not my place to tell someone how to raise their children. I can tell you that if my kid hits me, i am not calling the police to deal with it. It's hard enough nowadays to raise children without other people telling them how to do it. Personally I have never seen a time out work, the parent usually ends up sitting in time out with the child to make sure they take the time out, and then, the kid goes right back to doing what they were put in time out for. There needs to be a good discipline system that is acceptable by all people and that will never happen as all kids are different. I agree to some extent. There are children who have never been struck and are CEOs of big companies today. We only hear about the bad kids. I just have never found one healthy conclusion from spanking. When someone hits us it brings fear, granted fear is a control but not a healthy one. Hitting doesn't teach respect or a healthy problem solving or anything basically except that someone will hit when they feel like it. And I know people that are CEOs, executives, managers, principles and even superintendents that have been spanked. What's your point? This is what I am referring to. The point is that there are lots of good non spanked adults in this world to date. And there are just as many good spanked ADULTS in this world to date. Again, what's your point? That is the point. Spanking is not the absolute guarantee of a good child. And not spanking is no guarantee of a good child either. Once again, what's your point? |
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Between 1985 and 1993, violent crime actually decreased by 20 per cent among males 25 or older, while it increased 65 per cent for males 18 to 24 and by 165 per cent for 14- to 17-year-old males. So those who grew up in a period of more spanking were, and are, less violent than younger people who have grown up in a period of declining approval and practice of spanking. This does not prove that a decrease in spanking makes societies more violent, but these statistics throw cold water on any notion that blames spanking for societal violence.
in the eighties and nineties, wife beating and domestic abuse were violent crimes,,, |
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Between 1985 and 1993, violent crime actually decreased by 20 per cent among males 25 or older, while it increased 65 per cent for males 18 to 24 and by 165 per cent for 14- to 17-year-old males. So those who grew up in a period of more spanking were, and are, less violent than younger people who have grown up in a period of declining approval and practice of spanking. This does not prove that a decrease in spanking makes societies more violent, but these statistics throw cold water on any notion that blames spanking for societal violence. in the eighties and nineties, wife beating and domestic abuse were violent crimes,,, You can't prove they weren't spanked and therefore violent because of it...lol |
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Whatever happened to good ole clear communication and natural consequences? I've never had to hit, spank etc. my boys....
They turned out fine..actually doing really well. I TALKED/TALK to them! I am therefore I think..not, I am therefore I hit. |
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Between 1985 and 1993, violent crime actually decreased by 20 per cent among males 25 or older, while it increased 65 per cent for males 18 to 24 and by 165 per cent for 14- to 17-year-old males. So those who grew up in a period of more spanking were, and are, less violent than younger people who have grown up in a period of declining approval and practice of spanking. This does not prove that a decrease in spanking makes societies more violent, but these statistics throw cold water on any notion that blames spanking for societal violence. in the eighties and nineties, wife beating and domestic abuse were violent crimes,,, You can't prove they weren't spanked and therefore violent because of it...lol And you can't prove that they WERE spanked. |
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Between 1985 and 1993, violent crime actually decreased by 20 per cent among males 25 or older, while it increased 65 per cent for males 18 to 24 and by 165 per cent for 14- to 17-year-old males. So those who grew up in a period of more spanking were, and are, less violent than younger people who have grown up in a period of declining approval and practice of spanking. This does not prove that a decrease in spanking makes societies more violent, but these statistics throw cold water on any notion that blames spanking for societal violence. in the eighties and nineties, wife beating and domestic abuse were violent crimes,,, You can't prove they weren't spanked and therefore violent because of it...lol or the opposite, which is why such debate is endlessly futile cant prove unhappy children are unhappy because of spanking or that spanked children cant be happy makes me think of the arguments about homosexuality where people insist homosexuals are unhappy people because of their choice of sexual activity,,,, I may not agree with the activity, but professing to know if that person is happy or unhappy as a result is pretty bizarre and overreaching |
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This type of behavior never happened when I was in school and paddlings were allowed.....these kids today are way too out of control with lack of discipline because of it and then they get in trouble with the law because they are allowed to act this way. What about assault charges on the student as well for kicking the teacher. That would be true justice.
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Whatever happened to good ole clear communication and natural consequences? I've never had to hit, spank etc. my boys.... They turned out fine..actually doing really well. I TALKED/TALK to them! I am therefore I think..not, I am therefore I hit. you know that I respect you and I respect that that worked with your kids,, but your kids are NOT the same as everyone elses nor is the balance of their upbringing, or their environment, or their circumstance I just wish people would respect parents who do their job to raise healthy and happy children and stop bickering over the methods used,, |
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This type of behavior never happened when I was in school and paddlings were allowed.....these kids today are way too out of control with lack of discipline because of it and then they get in trouble with the law because they are allowed to act this way. What about assault charges on the student as well for kicking the teacher. That would be true justice. another light in the cloud,, I am all for it,, the teacher overstepped his assigned authority in that situation but the child also overstepped her entitlement ,, both should get punished or neither,,, |
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