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Topic: Teacher Facing Assault Charge for Alleged Spanking
msharmony's photo
Sun 08/01/10 06:56 PM

Okay my lovely children I am going to hit you multiple times and it is done with love, I hope you believe that.brokenheart




spend any time in my home or my families home and it was very clear that that was EXACTLY what was very well understood and believed, because it was BACKED by all the love and support that accompanied us all those times we made good choices and behaved,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/01/10 06:59 PM
on topic, Im sure the school has policies in place for misbehavior and consequences in place for violating them,, and that teachers and students and parents all signed a contract agreeing to them

so whatever is deemed to be the consequence according to their guideline should be followed

just like the consequences in place according to the guidelines in a home

no photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:07 PM

I have outgrown this archaic form of parenting.

It is outdated and has no positive effects on the children.

It is an absurd idea

I will hit my children for their bettermentslaphead


Well ... Good. For. You. ... Yay. Now, please just leave the rest of us alone and let us raise OUR kids according to OUR standards - not YOURS. Spanking does not equal brutality.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:10 PM
Very enlightening thread into the human condition, if I can say so.

As to this teacher, he really messed up.

Again I wonder if he was spanked so he spanked?

Or if he is currently a spanking parent and just acted out of habit from home.

I guess he might have done better than some spanked children who have anger issues from being spanked though. He might have cold cocked her.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:19 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sun 08/01/10 07:19 PM
as to this teacher, he really messed up.

Again I wonder if he was spanked so he spanked?

Or if he is currently a spanking parent and just acted out of habit from home.

I guess he might have done better than some spanked children who have anger issues from being spanked though. He might have cold cocked her.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:32 PM
i still think he had ulterior motives behind the spanking. i just see a grown man telling a teenage girl he's going to bend her over his knee. if that was my daughter, i would make sure that he thought twice before he ever said that again, to anyone. he was wrong for saying that, and he was wrong for trying.

venusenvy's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:33 PM
Well, The good news is, his career is over

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:34 PM

Well, The good news is, his career is over
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Dragoness's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:36 PM
yea, he is doomed now.

Especially if they get the sexual charges to stick.

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Sun 08/01/10 07:37 PM
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mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/01/10 08:55 PM

yea, he is doomed now.

Especially if they get the sexual charges to stick.


i hope they do, he seems like a perv to me...

no photo
Sun 08/01/10 09:11 PM
I agree with the mod. This question has debated its time, asked and answered by many. When irrationality is brought in over and over and over again to the point it becomes insulting someone by beating their views in our heads. It is no longer a debate. Its personal views taken out of context. frustrated

Foliel's photo
Mon 08/02/10 12:23 AM
I guess it would be far better to just call the police and have your child arrested, then let the judicial system punish your child for you.

Talking works for some kids, grounding works for some, time outs work for others, but they dont all work for all children.

My mom did the talking thing, the grounding thing and the time out thing with my little sister and let me tell ya, I have come close to disowning her several times for the way she acts. I can't take her anywhere, I refuse to be around her for more than 2-3 hours at a time. I don't know how many times she has threatened my mother (who is handicapped). She is rude, mean, violent, treats our parents like dirt, and has been disowned by my other sister. her mouth is so bad that she has been uninvited from friends homes.

Maybe my mom should have called the police and had her arrested a few times, BUT my mom refused to call the police as she didn't want the cops doing her job.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/02/10 01:36 AM

I guess it would be far better to just call the police and have your child arrested, then let the judicial system punish your child for you.

Talking works for some kids, grounding works for some, time outs work for others, but they dont all work for all children.

My mom did the talking thing, the grounding thing and the time out thing with my little sister and let me tell ya, I have come close to disowning her several times for the way she acts. I can't take her anywhere, I refuse to be around her for more than 2-3 hours at a time. I don't know how many times she has threatened my mother (who is handicapped). She is rude, mean, violent, treats our parents like dirt, and has been disowned by my other sister. her mouth is so bad that she has been uninvited from friends homes.

Maybe my mom should have called the police and had her arrested a few times, BUT my mom refused to call the police as she didn't want the cops doing her job.



its funny in a way, my mom never was intimidated by the police thing,, she told us the truth, that a few spanks on the bottom was NOTHING compared to what could and would happen to us as adults when we broke laws and that those few spanks were a small consequence in return for the loving and supportive home we had, seemed clear to me at a young age, that it wasnt likely CSB was going to place me in a home with NEARLY as much love or privileges or support and it was easier to just follow the few guidelines than it would be to call the police over a spanking and be taken away from our home to be with strangers,,,

Seakolony's photo
Mon 08/02/10 05:20 AM
Not a poem its a song and I did not write it........someone else did I may not have gotten the words exact.

I remember Daddy´s hands, folded silently in prayer.
And reaching out to hold me, when I had a nightmare.
You could read quite a story, in the callouses and lines.
Years of work and worry had left their mark behind.
I remember Daddy´s hands, how they held my Mama tight,
And patted my back, for something done right.
There are things that I´ve forgotten, that I loved about the man,
But I´ll always remember the love in Daddy´s hands.

Daddy's hands were soft and kind when I was cryin´.
Daddy´s hands, were hard as steel when I´d done wrong.
Daddy´s hands, weren´t always gentle
But I´ve come to understand.
There was always love in Daddy´s hands.

I remember Daddy´s hands, working 'til they bled.
Sacrificed unselfishly, just to keep us all fed.
If I could do things over, I´d live my life again.
And never take for granted the love in Daddy´s hands.

Daddy's hands were soft and kind when I was cryin´.
Daddy´s hands, were hard as steel when I´d done wrong.
Daddy´s hands, weren´t always gentle
But I´ve come to understand.
There was always love in Daddy´s hands.

Daddy's hands were soft and kind when I was cryin´.
Daddy´s hands, were hard as steel when I´d done wrong.
Daddy´s hands, weren´t always gentle
But I´ve come to understand.
There was always love .....
In Daddy´s hands.
Holly Dunn sings it

venusenvy's photo
Mon 08/02/10 07:00 AM

yea, he is doomed now.

Especially if they get the sexual charges to stick.


Lets hope they do, but regardless, allegations of this kind stick like a bad smell. Its not likely he will ever have a position working with young peeps again. flowerforyou

Seakolony's photo
Mon 08/02/10 08:02 AM

Okay my lovely children I am going to hit you multiple times and it is done with love, I hope you believe that.brokenheart

Who said anything about spanking multiple times? What is multiple and if done out of anger is wrong.........no one said "beat your children" there is a difference ya know.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/02/10 11:49 AM


Okay my lovely children I am going to hit you multiple times and it is done with love, I hope you believe that.brokenheart

Who said anything about spanking multiple times? What is multiple and if done out of anger is wrong.........no one said "beat your children" there is a difference ya know.



alot of anti spankers refuse to aknowledge any difference,,,,thats the only reason the debate can be so endless

Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/02/10 12:23 PM
I have yet to meet a person who tells people to hit them to show them they love them (S&M excluded of course)and yet on this forum I have heard on several occasions that hitting shows loveslaphead

Hitting can never show love to someone.

It is illogical.

I hit therefore I love.

I hit you, now you are loved.

I hit you for your betterment.

I am sorry but it is absurdityrofl

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:21 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 08/02/10 02:22 PM

I have yet to meet a person who tells people to hit them to show them they love them (S&M excluded of course)and yet on this forum I have heard on several occasions that hitting shows loveslaphead

Hitting can never show love to someone.

It is illogical.

I hit therefore I love.

I hit you, now you are loved.

I hit you for your betterment.

I am sorry but it is absurdityrofl



I have never met the person who tells people to force them to stay in a room or sit in a chair or who tells people to take away things they like out of love either

but maybe its because people dont generally expect DISCIPLINE from others and yet DISCIPLINE is a necessity of parenting,,,a part that is done out of love as much as the one being disciplined may not like it, because it is done to teach and prepare for life

its absurdity to think that discipline cant be love because its unpleasant,,,,

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