Topic: OK, for the guys...
snarkytwain's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:31 AM
Edited by snarkytwain on Tue 07/14/09 06:33 AM

Jessi, you asked, would you have sex with a girl right away if you wanted more, I guess for me, the perfect relationship would have a emotional, spiritual AND physical connection, therefore, yes, sex would be a part of that, as I enjoy sex, but that said, a relationship with a physical and mental connection is empty without a spiritual connection also. do you get it?


And if she didn't want to right away? Would you take that offensively?

i have one friend and her friends aren't the type that i'd be interested in. one of her friends' friends was cute but she likes pretty boys.


What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

74Drew's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:35 AM



What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

thin, toned, always looks good, never a blemish.


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snarkytwain's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:37 AM




What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

thin, toned, always looks good, never a blemish.


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Does that answer both questions? laugh

74Drew's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:42 AM





What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

thin, toned, always looks good, never a blemish.


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Does that answer both questions? laugh

sorry, i didn't catch the second one.

but it almost does.
i'm at the point where i'm not looking anymore. i've thrown in the towel and have accepted that my life will be better spent being alone than searching for someone who doesn't exist.


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Tue 07/14/09 06:52 AM
"And if she didn't want to right away? Would you take that offensively?"

no, but if we started dating and had never had sex and had been together for 3 months, i'd be wondering when we'd be having it

longhairbiker's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:53 AM

... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?
.....hey- most of the time THE WOMEN decide it for the man. I get approached infrequently. Either they want to get to know me, or be a freind, or more. I don't get into relationships easy for I'm realistic and practical and jaded. And I'm not a toy, a fling, sometin onda side, or an adjective. I haven't found a woman I can relate to enough for commitment. The choices are sparse and the quality low. I'm not a game player. I'm single, no kids, educated, respected, well traveled, have an open mind, and respect differences, am responsible, cultured, and adventurous. Its hard to find someone that meets my expectations. And I will not lower my standards. I guess I was brought up different than most. The answer to your question is the girl that you want to screw is usually all she's worth and that's all she wants. And the girl you would like to pursue or become freinds or have a relationship with is usually unobtainable, occupied, or uninterested.

longhairbiker's photo
Tue 07/14/09 06:56 AM
Welcome to the "Nothing in common" factor. Its like "Fear factor" only without joe rogan yelling at you.

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 07/14/09 07:03 AM






What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

thin, toned, always looks good, never a blemish.


. . .


Does that answer both questions? laugh

sorry, i didn't catch the second one.

but it almost does.
i'm at the point where i'm not looking anymore. i've thrown in the towel and have accepted that my life will be better spent being alone than searching for someone who doesn't exist.


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Why would she not exist?

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Tue 07/14/09 07:03 AM
okay my internet is lagging out again so i'm going to sleepy land goodnight anyone, buttah if you come online feel free to send me an email to my hotmail

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 07/14/09 07:05 AM
Edited by snarkytwain on Tue 07/14/09 07:06 AM


... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?
.....hey- most of the time THE WOMEN decide it for the man. I get approached infrequently. Either they want to get to know me, or be a freind, or more. I don't get into relationships easy for I'm realistic and practical and jaded. And I'm not a toy, a fling, sometin onda side, or an adjective. I haven't found a woman I can relate to enough for commitment. The choices are sparse and the quality low. I'm not a game player. I'm single, no kids, educated, respected, well traveled, have an open mind, and respect differences, am responsible, cultured, and adventurous. Its hard to find someone that meets my expectations. And I will not lower my standards. I guess I was brought up different than most. The answer to your question is the girl that you want to screw is usually all she's worth and that's all she wants. And the girl you would like to pursue or become freinds or have a relationship with is usually unobtainable, occupied, or uninterested.


And knowing the difference? Some have said it's how a woman dresses, others say it's weather or not you hit it off in a conversation. What about you? Considering YOU'D be the one approaching, of course. What about a woman would make yuou stand up and take notice before you even knew her?

Okay my internet is lagging out again so i'm going to sleepy land goodnight anyone, buttah if you come online feel free to send me an email to my hotmail


K! Goodnight. :)

JustAGuy2112's photo
Tue 07/14/09 08:58 AM


Hey Jessi, that's a cute name.

if you want to know the truth know, in answer to your original question, basically a girl that's dressed like a complete skank, pardon my language, is not one i'd see as relationship material, then again, i don't find prostitutes that sexually attractive, they just dress too...unladly like, for my taste.

it really depends on the guy, not all guys are after the same thing, i prefer larger women, and many people find that unusual. Basically though, if a girl is quick to take off her clothes and engage in sex with me, then it's a logical assumption that she does it with other men as well, and therefore even if i do engage in sex with her, i would be cautious about asking for any committment.

Basically, I think it's the girls attitude, the way she's dressed, if she dresses elegantly in clothes that don't show off her belly, and breasts too much (i don't mind seeing cleavage, but i hate seeing the belly) then she's more likely to be relationship material...if she was a drunk girl at a swinger's party, well to me, that's just sex.

I am sorry Jessi it's too hard to answer your question appropriately, there are far too many variables...






Thank you, and you're right of course. Belly? laugh I'd be a nutjob if I showed off my belly! Course, that doesn't rule out legs... Gotta accentuate the positive, ya know?

Yes you are, and what it is is trying to clump all guys into the same catagory because of the experience you have had with a few.


Possibly, but that's how people learn. I can't know anything about guys I have never experienced, right? And that's why I'm asking here, too. I think I'm going to the wrong places and need more confidence, myself, but we're all different.

And it HAS been my expereince in bars that if a man talks to you, he wants one thing. So that makes it kinda hard to want to talk back.


Just gonna throw my ' older dude ' two cents in here.

In a way, you are right. Most men, when they talk to you, are thinking about sex. BUT, the thing is, not ALL of them are thinking about sex right away.

Some of them, like me, consider sex to be secondary.

Dressing in a way that appears ' slutty ' is something that completely turns me away from someone.

In my opinion, and this is only MY OWN opinion, ' sexy ' is an attitude. Not an appearance. Depending on the way a woman carries herself, baggy jeans and a t shirt can be sexy.

The biggest thing is this. YOU have to know that you are sexy and carry yourself in a confident way before a guy ( in a bar situation ) is going to see you as anything more than a target.

Guys in bars have typically been there before ( not necessarily the place, but the situation ) and they can usually cull the herd to find the " easy marks " when they are out looking to get laid.

I am NOT saying that you are " easy ". What I am saying is that guys who are in bars for nothing more than getting laid have developed the ability to sniff out the females who lack self confidence. That makes them ( the women ) a pretty good target in the guys' minds.

Riding_Dubz's photo
Tue 07/14/09 08:59 AM
i'll only screw a girl i want to date smokin

Slyther83's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:04 AM




i had sex with my ex the first night we kissed, but i had known her for a while. hey it lasted 3 years+


but in general idk, sex right away can make people feel like they dont have to invest as much in you


But that assumes that sex is the only thing they're after. Investing in WHAT? Other than sex? In that analogy?



you do know that you ask far too many questions, right? lol


i think there should be some type of buildup toward sex and not have it happen right away, at least for dating material. sex clouds judgement, be it good or bad. people who have sex right away also come across as easy and all that.


Nice save. :wink: I ask questions to get answers. How else can one achieve one's dreams in this world, right?




lol pshhhh

CKeef's photo
Tue 07/14/09 10:41 AM
Intelligence, open-mind, desire for understanding, learning and creating happiness. A woman who can be sexy, but doesnt have to be or try. No makeup is very sexy to me, and something like sweatpants are comfortable for us both. Somebody who can be my best friend and love my typical guy aspects but also bring out a fire of passion, love and romance that pushes me to make her smile, take her places she dreams of, show her new things.

For me, I would do almost anything for a good person, especially a good woman. I'd want somebody with aspirations and strong-set values, and always willing to share time with me, even if its not her idea of a good time, but caring enough to be happy & content that it for me.

Some call it the golden rule or whatever, but people are so different and so many possible factors that make people who they are, you never know what types of things people need and want, so keeping doors open makes sense because there is always going to be something somebody loves the other doesnt really care for, so it is important to have the willingness and desire to sacrifice for another, to see another feel good.

74Drew's photo
Tue 07/14/09 11:23 AM







What is your definition of a pretty boy? And what type are you interested in? I'm curious.

thin, toned, always looks good, never a blemish.


. . .


Does that answer both questions? laugh

sorry, i didn't catch the second one.

but it almost does.
i'm at the point where i'm not looking anymore. i've thrown in the towel and have accepted that my life will be better spent being alone than searching for someone who doesn't exist.


. . .


Why would she not exist?

apparently i ask for too much. (been told this in the past)



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Anonimoose's photo
Tue 07/14/09 11:36 AM

**waits for someone to tell him how many men there are in the WORLD**


Well, there are over 6 billion people in the world, and it's close to 50/50, so there are over 3 billion males in the world. No idea how many are married, too young, too old, etc. But at least there's a starting point.

Anonimoose's photo
Tue 07/14/09 11:51 AM



i had sex with my ex the first night we kissed, but i had known her for a while. hey it lasted 3 years+


but in general idk, sex right away can make people feel like they dont have to invest as much in you


But that assumes that sex is the only thing they're after. Investing in WHAT? Other than sex? In that analogy?



you do know that you ask far too many questions, right? lol


i think there should be some type of buildup toward sex and not have it happen right away, at least for dating material. sex clouds judgement, be it good or bad. people who have sex right away also come across as easy and all that.


BINGO! Sex does cloud judgment, so when it happens early in a relationship, people start to ignore any red flags that might come up that, without the sex factor, would have someone running for the hills. The second statement I bolded is very true as well, but it is not a conscious thing. I'm not saying it's right, or that it's not something of a double-standard, but if a woman "gives it up" too quickly, we subconsciously lose respect for her. [It may not be true in all cases, but I think it happens more than most of us are willing to admit.]



And if she didn't want to right away? Would you take that offensively?


no, but if we started dating and had never had sex and had been together for 3 months, i'd be wondering when we'd be having it


I truly believe that's the wrong attitude to have, but I also think that if you don't believe me now, it's something you'll have to figure out for yourself eventually. Although some people never do, I suppose.

Anonimoose's photo
Tue 07/14/09 12:02 PM

I had a friend tell me last summer that the best way to interest a guy is to act like a dumbass. "Men don't want to talk about books. That makes them nervous and makes them feel like you're acting better than them. Just flirt and use all your physicality. THAT'S what they want."

Sad thing is, she's in a GREAT realtionship rigt now. SO...?!



Regardless of her current status, I couldn't disagree more with your friend. I want a woman who has the ability to talk about ideas, books, etc. If she can't, then she and I have no hope of lasting.

Jessi, I think you also asked how a woman is to dress so as to be attractive, but not appear slutty. First, there are a lot of clothes you can wear that are attractive (even elegant, which I think someone else said), but that are nowhere near "slutty". Second, I don't care how attractive a woman's clothes are, if she looks angry, morose, or like a sourpuss all the time, I don't want anything to do with her. One of the most attractive things about someone else is their ability to laugh and smile and be positive in the face of whatever is going on in their lives ... and let's face it, most of us have at least a couple of "somethings" going on in our lives that could socially cripple us if we let them.

MadroxKran's photo
Tue 07/14/09 12:47 PM
How fast she was ready to get into the sack and how much I really like her personality. In general, a guy will bang any girl he finds attractive, but date the ones with personalities to match.

auburngirl's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:23 PM
The ones they might think are "hot" turn out to be meaningless. They want the whole package, looks, emotional connection, intelligence, personality, AND to be able to make their jaws drop. Be her, not the quickie in the sack. Good luck