Topic: OK, for the guys...
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Tue 07/14/09 02:24 PM
:banana: Hit it & quit it:banana:

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Tue 07/14/09 02:53 PM
Edited by vortecpowered on Tue 07/14/09 02:55 PM
poking random hot chicks to satisfy the urge seems like treating them like toilets. in that equation they're just some object to aim a bodily function at. you don't take the toilet out for breakfast or miss it when you use another one.


(btw, i'm saying that's a bad thing tongue2)


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Tue 07/14/09 02:54 PM
smokin Beat the brakes off it smokin

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Tue 07/14/09 04:47 PM

The ones they might think are "hot" turn out to be meaningless. They want the whole package, looks, emotional connection, intelligence, personality, AND to be able to make their jaws drop. Be her, not the quickie in the sack. Good luck


wow now there's a woman who understands men

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Tue 07/14/09 04:59 PM
isnt it better to just screw the one your dating i like that idea

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Tue 07/14/09 05:07 PM
me too

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Tue 07/14/09 05:09 PM


The ones they might think are "hot" turn out to be meaningless. They want the whole package, looks, emotional connection, intelligence, personality, AND to be able to make their jaws drop. Be her, not the quickie in the sack. Good luck


wow now there's a woman who understands men

pretty much.


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Tue 07/14/09 05:22 PM
where did Jessi go?

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Tue 07/14/09 05:25 PM

... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?


I'm past the point where I'd be interested in someone solely for sex.

Of course, I can't find anyone who meets my requirements for a relationship, so I guess I'm "screwed" regardless....

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Tue 07/14/09 05:26 PM



... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?
.....hey- most of the time THE WOMEN decide it for the man. I get approached infrequently. Either they want to get to know me, or be a freind, or more. I don't get into relationships easy for I'm realistic and practical and jaded. And I'm not a toy, a fling, sometin onda side, or an adjective. I haven't found a woman I can relate to enough for commitment. The choices are sparse and the quality low. I'm not a game player. I'm single, no kids, educated, respected, well traveled, have an open mind, and respect differences, am responsible, cultured, and adventurous. Its hard to find someone that meets my expectations. And I will not lower my standards. I guess I was brought up different than most. The answer to your question is the girl that you want to screw is usually all she's worth and that's all she wants. And the girl you would like to pursue or become freinds or have a relationship with is usually unobtainable, occupied, or uninterested.


And knowing the difference? Some have said it's how a woman dresses, others say it's weather or not you hit it off in a conversation. What about you? Considering YOU'D be the one approaching, of course. What about a woman would make yuou stand up and take notice before you even knew her?
......the way she carries or presents herself matters. I'm not attracted to sloppy drunks, outlandish out of control screamers, sluttily dressed playas, judgemental to be mean malcontents, vanity driven money flashers, birkinstock pot smoking dillusional dreamers, or crazies. I would choose the shy, modest, looks intellegent type over all of them. Or the in control, looks intellegent, cultured, and adventurous type. No girls. They're yucky and quite unintellegent. Bring me a woman I'd be proud to be with. Oh yeah.

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Tue 07/14/09 10:08 PM



Hey Jessi, that's a cute name.

if you want to know the truth know, in answer to your original question, basically a girl that's dressed like a complete skank, pardon my language, is not one i'd see as relationship material, then again, i don't find prostitutes that sexually attractive, they just dress too...unladly like, for my taste.

it really depends on the guy, not all guys are after the same thing, i prefer larger women, and many people find that unusual. Basically though, if a girl is quick to take off her clothes and engage in sex with me, then it's a logical assumption that she does it with other men as well, and therefore even if i do engage in sex with her, i would be cautious about asking for any committment.

Basically, I think it's the girls attitude, the way she's dressed, if she dresses elegantly in clothes that don't show off her belly, and breasts too much (i don't mind seeing cleavage, but i hate seeing the belly) then she's more likely to be relationship material...if she was a drunk girl at a swinger's party, well to me, that's just sex.

I am sorry Jessi it's too hard to answer your question appropriately, there are far too many variables...






Thank you, and you're right of course. Belly? laugh I'd be a nutjob if I showed off my belly! Course, that doesn't rule out legs... Gotta accentuate the positive, ya know?

Yes you are, and what it is is trying to clump all guys into the same catagory because of the experience you have had with a few.


Possibly, but that's how people learn. I can't know anything about guys I have never experienced, right? And that's why I'm asking here, too. I think I'm going to the wrong places and need more confidence, myself, but we're all different.

And it HAS been my expereince in bars that if a man talks to you, he wants one thing. So that makes it kinda hard to want to talk back.


Just gonna throw my ' older dude ' two cents in here.

In a way, you are right. Most men, when they talk to you, are thinking about sex. BUT, the thing is, not ALL of them are thinking about sex right away.

Some of them, like me, consider sex to be secondary.

Dressing in a way that appears ' slutty ' is something that completely turns me away from someone.

In my opinion, and this is only MY OWN opinion, ' sexy ' is an attitude. Not an appearance. Depending on the way a woman carries herself, baggy jeans and a t shirt can be sexy.

The biggest thing is this. YOU have to know that you are sexy and carry yourself in a confident way before a guy ( in a bar situation ) is going to see you as anything more than a target.

Guys in bars have typically been there before ( not necessarily the place, but the situation ) and they can usually cull the herd to find the " easy marks " when they are out looking to get laid.

I am NOT saying that you are " easy ". What I am saying is that guys who are in bars for nothing more than getting laid have developed the ability to sniff out the females who lack self confidence. That makes them ( the women ) a pretty good target in the guys' minds.


Thank you. I mean that, especially. I had a feeling it was a confidence thing, but you explained it so well! flowerforyou

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Tue 07/14/09 10:16 PM
Just gonna throw my ' older dude ' two cents in here.

In a way, you are right. Most men, when they talk to you, are thinking about sex. BUT, the thing is, not ALL of them are thinking about sex right away.

Some of them, like me, consider sex to be secondary.

Dressing in a way that appears ' slutty ' is something that completely turns me away from someone.

In my opinion, and this is only MY OWN opinion, ' sexy ' is an attitude. Not an appearance. Depending on the way a woman carries herself, baggy jeans and a t shirt can be sexy.

The biggest thing is this. YOU have to know that you are sexy and carry yourself in a confident way before a guy ( in a bar situation ) is going to see you as anything more than a target.

Guys in bars have typically been there before ( not necessarily the place, but the situation ) and they can usually cull the herd to find the " easy marks " when they are out looking to get laid.

I am NOT saying that you are " easy ". What I am saying is that guys who are in bars for nothing more than getting laid have developed the ability to sniff out the females who lack self confidence. That makes them ( the women ) a pretty good target in the guys' minds.


Thank you. I mean that, especially. I had a feeling it was a confidence thing, but you explained it so well! flowerforyou


Always happy to do what I can. I have been where you are ( well...except for the attracting anyone part ) and know what it's like to have to deal with low confidence.

Hell...I STILL deal with it on occasion.

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Tue 07/14/09 10:19 PM

... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?



:smile: I don't really think of women in those two categories. :smile: Its ones I want to screw, or ones that I don'tdrinker

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Tue 07/14/09 10:19 PM
Edited by snarkytwain on Tue 07/14/09 11:15 PM
Hey... OK I read everyone's replies, and this may take a bit, but I want to comment on them all.

As to where I went, bed. laugh

So give me a sec and I'll edit this with replies.

ETA: REPLIES!

i'll only screw a girl i want to date


laugh Well that makes it simple! You realize this isn't average though, right?

Intelligence, open-mind, desire for understanding, learning and creating happiness. A woman who can be sexy, but doesnt have to be or try. No makeup is very sexy to me, and something like sweatpants are comfortable for us both. Somebody who can be my best friend and love my typical guy aspects but also bring out a fire of passion, love and romance that pushes me to make her smile, take her places she dreams of, show her new things.

For me, I would do almost anything for a good person, especially a good woman. I'd want somebody with aspirations and strong-set values, and always willing to share time with me, even if its not her idea of a good time, but caring enough to be happy & content that it for me.

Some call it the golden rule or whatever, but people are so different and so many possible factors that make people who they are, you never know what types of things people need and want, so keeping doors open makes sense because there is always going to be something somebody loves the other doesnt really care for, so it is important to have the willingness and desire to sacrifice for another, to see another feel good.


So you want what women want. That's cool. But how do you know a woman is that way? It's hard to talk at a bar without preconceptions, and dating coworkers is not a good idea. I've asked this of a few people here, but nobody seems to know -- how do you meet women you can talk to enough to get to know?

apparently i ask for too much. (been told this in the past)


By who? Have people (friends or girls), given you a "number"? Are you wanting a girl with a higher "number"?

Is all this number stuff total BS?

BINGO! Sex does cloud judgment, so when it happens early in a relationship, people start to ignore any red flags that might come up that, without the sex factor, would have someone running for the hills.


This I can TOTALLY see!

The second statement I bolded is very true as well, but it is not a conscious thing. I'm not saying it's right, or that it's not something of a double-standard, but if a woman "gives it up" too quickly, we subconsciously lose respect for her. [It may not be true in all cases, but I think it happens more than most of us are willing to admit.]

I can see this, too. So here's the thing -- if you see a girl at a bar and you talk to her, what is your plan? I ask this because I have come to the automatic conclusion that ANY man who talks to me at a bar is out for one thing, and so I automatically freeze up. I don't know if it makes me seem snobby or stupid, but it happens. Every time.

And yes, I know a bar is a bad place to meet anyone. Problem is, there really isn't anywhere else.

Regardless of her current status, I couldn't disagree more with your friend. I want a woman who has the ability to talk about ideas, books, etc. If she can't, then she and I have no hope of lasting.


I thought so too. But see, she's normal and I'm not. (I think not being normal is great, so don't tell me I am laugh) Normal men -- like she's describing -- are easy to find. Abnormal? Not so much. And I would be SO unhappy with a normal man.

Jessi, I think you also asked how a woman is to dress so as to be attractive, but not appear slutty. First, there are a lot of clothes you can wear that are attractive (even elegant, which I think someone else said), but that are nowhere near "slutty". Second, I don't care how attractive a woman's clothes are, if she looks angry, morose, or like a sourpuss all the time, I don't want anything to do with her. One of the most attractive things about someone else is their ability to laugh and smile and be positive in the face of whatever is going on in their lives ... and let's face it, most of us have at least a couple of "somethings" going on in our lives that could socially cripple us if we let them.


Smile's not hard. I'm actually a very happy and sociable person. I'm great around people, guys AND girls, but when I'm around a guy I like, I clam up and shut down. Entirely. I turn into the wall, the floor... anything to not catch his attention. It's actually almost comical.

Clothes... huh. I dress in a billion different ways depending on my mood. laugh

How fast she was ready to get into the sack and how much I really like her personality. In general, a guy will bang any girl he finds attractive, but date the ones with personalities to match.


So... you bang first? You don't lose respect?

The ones they might think are "hot" turn out to be meaningless. They want the whole package, looks, emotional connection, intelligence, personality, AND to be able to make their jaws drop. Be her, not the quickie in the sack. Good luck


*Sigh* I'm not superwoman! laugh

poking random hot chicks to satisfy the urge seems like treating them like toilets. in that equation they're just some object to aim a bodily function at. you don't take the toilet out for breakfast or miss it when you use another one.


(btw, i'm saying that's a bad thing )


So I THINK you're saying that you don't have sex unless you already respect and like her?

isnt it better to just screw the one your dating i like that
idea


That's a good idea. But ya know, people can't just shop for a date from a catalogue. laugh

I'm past the point where I'd be interested in someone solely for sex.

Of course, I can't find anyone who meets my requirements for a relationship, so I guess I'm "screwed" regardless....


Yeah. Ditto. Sigh.

......the way she carries or presents herself matters. I'm not attracted to sloppy drunks, outlandish out of control screamers, sluttily dressed playas, judgemental to be mean malcontents, vanity driven money flashers, birkinstock pot smoking dillusional dreamers, or crazies. I would choose the shy, modest, looks intellegent type over all of them. Or the in control, looks intellegent, cultured, and adventurous type. No girls. They're yucky and quite unintellegent. Bring me a woman I'd be proud to be with. Oh yeah.


Agreed. No boys. I'm done with boys. Ignorant, irresponsible, immature. Ugh. No. I can TOTALLY agree with you there.

I don't really think of women in those two categories. Its ones I want to screw, or ones that I don't


So... you don't date? surprised

sweetheart dont

i know you want to...

but just..dont


laugh What can I say, I'm pretty verbose. I warned you that.

welcome back Jessi we missed you, you ask interesting questions


And make it all about me, yeah. laugh frustrated Feeling kinda "MEMEMEMEME-ish" atm. embarassed

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Tue 07/14/09 10:34 PM
sweetheart dont

i know you want to...

but just..dont bigsmile

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Tue 07/14/09 10:58 PM
welcome back Jessi we missed you, you ask interesting questions

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Tue 07/14/09 11:43 PM
Lets all look at the pretty girl some more

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Tue 07/14/09 11:44 PM



apparently i ask for too much. (been told this in the past)


By who? Have people (friends or girls), given you a "number"? Are you wanting a girl with a higher "number"?

Is all this number stuff total BS?


it's not about the number, it's about the qualities. i'd like a girl who i find attractive and who's smart and classy. a non-smoker, light drinker, extrovert who is even tempered and has a job. a woman between the ages of 25 and 35, preferably without kids(but 1 or 2 is ok), who likes to chill at home with me on the couch most nights. and of course i want a girl who likes me the way i am, is physically attracted to me enough to desire to have sex with me and who is honest and faithful.

that's about it. oh yeah, it'd be great if she had nice teeth.


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Tue 07/14/09 11:44 PM
You didn't reply to mine...Why not?

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Tue 07/14/09 11:45 PM

... What, for you, is the difference between a girl who you want to date (IE try something meaningful with), and a girl you think of as just a screw?


I actually don't want to "screw" anybody that isn't important to me...of course I've made the mistake of screwing someone that was of utter uselessness to my life, but that didn't become apparent until after. Besides I'm just looking for friends, my failure rate of relationships is appalling.