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Topic: You Get What you Are.....More on Law of Attraction
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Fri 05/01/09 01:02 PM

As far as "taking responsibility" I think that is a matter of personal choice. There are things that happen that are beyond our control. I don't advocate we can control everything, and I never have. But if something out of our control connects with us, we are responsible for how we frame that, respond to that perceive that and react to that.


I've been thinking about this myself. It seems to me that there would be far more responsibility involved if we can affect the reality of others than there would be if we couldn't.

So from my point of view we would be relieved from a lot of responsiblity by beliving that everyone is 100% responsible for their own reality. That would mean that there would be nothing we could do to adversely affect someone else's reality. That would be a great relief actually.

As it is now, I'm under the delusion that my actions can affect other people's reality, and that's a DEEP responsiblity!



I am now working on a project that is going to take all of my attention so I will be staying away from Mingle for about three or four months. I will check back in now and then when I have time.

jeanniebean


You should say goodbye to Mirror first, or at least give him a project to work on whilst you're gone. :wink:

Well actually, I guess this thought stems from my delusional belief that we do indeed affect other people's realities.

I can't help it. I was brought up to believe this and it seems to still be true today.

I may never be able to get past this view. bigsmile


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Fri 05/01/09 01:08 PM
I sent mirror a message. flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/01/09 01:13 PM
You're such a nice gal. :heart: flowers

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Fri 05/01/09 01:15 PM
will someone finally pass the darn mashed potatoes!laugh

good to see some compromises againdrinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/01/09 01:19 PM

I sent mirror a message. flowerforyou
bigsmile

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 05/01/09 05:35 PM

will someone finally pass the darn mashed potatoes!laugh

good to see some compromises againdrinker


JB and Abra always end up making up. I love them both. bigsmile

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Fri 05/01/09 09:09 PM


I'm under the delusion that my actions can affect other people's reality, and that's a DEEP responsiblity!
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bigsmile
Abra, you may not be as delusional as you think.
Your actions' affect on others -- and vice versa: others' actions affecting you -- is a given fact, usually referred to as "human relations"... (if "sombody steps on your toe" -- literally, and otherwise)

But that's only the smallest part of the problem! The real problem lies in the responsibility connected with the issue of one's very Thoughts affecting other people*************************

Certainly, not every thought and not all the people. . .
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____(usually, those in the close proximity...)____
But you might've noticed that people, sometimes, "coincidentally" act upon your desires (hopes, wishes, dreams, whatever).
Personnaly, when I have been studying at the university, I'd often willed the lecturers to take a break...(and often they did..)
Luckily, not everyone possesses the unique ability of mind control! (such fits are easily accomplished under hypnosis ***)
However, the technique has long been in the arsenal of the Military -- presumably, for intelligence purposes. However, it's not going to be long until every other person would be capable of that. Then the responsibility would be of paramount importance!

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/01/09 10:05 PM
Thank you HWC,

It's always nice to know that I may not be as delusional as I think. :wink:

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Sun 05/03/09 01:02 AM

Thank you HWC,

It's always nice to know that I may not be as delusional as I think. :wink:
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... on the other hand, I may be delusional myself -- thinking that you aren't! LOL! ! ! :smile:

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Mon 05/04/09 02:42 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 05/04/09 02:42 PM

I enjoyed listening to the Law of Attraction on CD. I now have a lot more patience in traffic. I tend to be less aggressive and more generous by letting people in etc...the theory base of the Law of Attraction seems to make good sense to me. At the very least it has helped me make my commute more enjoyable.

The story about the woman who wanted to get married and cleaned out half her closet was cute, had to call up my best friend and tell her that one.
What is interesting to me is how this understanding of origination does the same thing.

Buddhism tries to get us to understand how our emotions effect ourselves, which in turn effects our behaviors, which is turn effect other people's emotions which in turn effect their behaviors.

When we can analyze the origination of our emotions and then determine how that effects our actions, we get to then choose whether that action, if that behavior is going to help or hurt us and those around us.

Traffic is a great example. Traffic is a community of actions where each person contributes to the harmony of the community.

There needs be no universal law of attraction for us to see how emotion effects behavior and how that starts a chain reaction. We see it every day in traffic.



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Mon 05/04/09 05:17 PM
I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 05/04/09 06:00 PM

I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?
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Mon 05/04/09 08:42 PM

I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?


They are universal laws. They are our laws. They do not "belong" to science either. They are part of the program in this holographic mind matrix. They are the rules of the game we play in this universe.

You ask for a thing by thinking about it. This thought is recieved by the universal mind or subconscious. Wallace D. Wattles calls it "the thinking stuff."

You purposefully and consciously ask for a thing by visualizing it in your mind, by imagining it, intending it, thinking it into existence. This is a thought universe and you are a thinking center. Thought comes first, desire, intention and then action.

You govern your own life if you take responsibility for that. If you don't want to govern your own life there are others who will govern your life for you and even take care of you.

Who's 'mind' is this that we send our thoughts to? It is the collective mind of this living universe. Some call it God, but it is OUR COLLECTIVE MIND.




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Mon 05/04/09 09:07 PM


I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?
flowerforyou JeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyou and Jeanniebeanflowerforyou
bigsmile IT WORKED!biggrinI SAID HER NAME 5 TIMES AND SHE APPEARED!:banana:

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Mon 05/04/09 09:17 PM



I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?
flowerforyou JeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyou and Jeanniebeanflowerforyou
bigsmile IT WORKED!biggrinI SAID HER NAME 5 TIMES AND SHE APPEARED!:banana:


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MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 05/04/09 09:21 PM




I would like to know whose Laws are these? Whose Laws are you keeping? Who governs your life? Who are you asking these things for and what is his/her name? Why should they give you anything?
flowerforyou JeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyouJeanniebeanflowerforyou and Jeanniebeanflowerforyou
bigsmile IT WORKED!biggrinI SAID HER NAME 5 TIMES AND SHE APPEARED!:banana:


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:tongue: :wink: flowers

creativesoul's photo
Mon 05/04/09 09:43 PM
Awwwwww.... wittel miwwow missed JB...

flowerforyou

Hi JB!!!

flowers

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 05/05/09 05:45 AM
Thoughts are things.

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Tue 05/05/09 07:50 AM

Awwwwww.... wittel miwwow missed JB...

flowerforyou

Hi JB!!!

flowers


flowers flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:42 AM

They are universal laws. They are our laws. They do not "belong" to science either. They are part of the program in this holographic mind matrix. They are the rules of the game we play in this universe.


They do not "belong" to science because there is no evidence to support them.


You govern your own life if you take responsibility for that. If you don't want to govern your own life there are others who will govern your life for you and even take care of you.


Here we see that the Law of Attraction is not an absolute but only applies to those who accept responsility for using it. Those who don't accept it are appointed baby-sitters.

Just on a personal note, I have nothing againts this philosophy. I think it would be super great if it turns out to be true. It would relieve us from any an all responsibility toward other people since they have either taken control of their own reality or are being protected by guardian baby-sitters.

It would be a universe where there would be no need for responsiblity toward others. The only responsibility would be for accepting the creation of our OWN reality.

Clearly if we could have an affect on someone else's reality that would violate the "Law of Attraction" because they would no be attracting that affect.

If a "Law of Attraction" is in play in this universe then we have been completely freed from any responsiblity of how we interact with other people. We could not possibly affect them in ways that they did not attract. For to do so would violate the "Law of Attraction"

The presumption is that eveyone creates their OWN reality or that babysitters protect them until they are able to do so.

In the meantime, there is no room left for anyone to adversely affect anyone else's reality.

Thus if the "Law of Attraction" is true we have all been completely freed from any responsiblity toward each other. We can only be responsible for our OWN reality. We can have no affect on other people's reality becasue that would violate the LAW that they attract and create their OWN reality.

I personally don't see how this can work, but if it's true I think it's great. We can know that it would be impossible to adversely affect someone else's reality then, even if we WANTED to!

So it would be a universe where there was absolutely NO RESPONISBILITY required toward other beings. If I accidently hurt someone it can only be because they drew that into their reality.

In fact, theoretically, even if I hurt people on purpose it must be that they are attracting and creating that event. Otherwise it would be impossible for me to carry it out.

It seems like a universe where the is NO RESPONSIBILY whatsoever!

In some ways I guess that would be great. No one could be responsible for every hurting another person either intentionally nor unintentionally.

Each person creates their OWN reality via the Law of Attraction.

There would be no other options left without violating that LAW.

A universe of NO RESPONSIBLITY toward other beings whatsoever.

Yes, that would be nice!


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