He clearly pitted the Christian Germans against the Jews and they embraced this philosophy.

From the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. In the 1920s, Hitler's German Workers' Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a "Programme" with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a "positive" Christianity:

24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest.

Hitler's speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of faith.

Well - I can't totally disagree with you. I'm sure you've heard it said numerous times that christianity is not about church - it is about a relationship with God. But the tendency is to paint christains with the broad brush of those who's practices and beliefs give it a bad name. Rationalization at it's worst I'm afraid.

But not all churches are evil. Though there are certainly evil people attending churches. Some are even the pastors and priests of those churches. But you'll find the same thing in government, big business, heck, even small business. It's everywhere. It's an evil world.

Bonhoffer was a born again. Hitler imprisoned him. What do you mean when you say "Germany was the most heavily Christainized nation"? There's no way to determine if that is fact or not.

You cant be serious. Martin Luther? Protestant Church?

It has nothing to do with societies view of christainity, and everything to do with what the bible says. Where does society get it's idea of christianity if not from the bible?

You don't have to be a "card carrying member" - but you can be sure, that if you order the extermination of over 6 million Jews, you aren't a card carrying member. That's just plain OBVIOUS! Your actions and words demonstrate whether you're a card carrying member or not.

. . . and back to the "No True Scotsman" argument. . .

Now, I'll ask you, as I have asked others.
You are nothing more than a mortal, who are you to decide who god accepts, and who he doesn't?

So would it be more to your liking if we tattooed a big "C" on the foreheads of all "true Christians." That would certainly alleviate the necessity of these prostrated arguments on public forums. There would be no confusion.

Look - I didn't write the book, I only read it. Read it for yourself and tell me what it says.

In heaven - there's no such thing as a Catholic, Episcopalian, Methodist, etc. There is nothing biblical about denominations. So your first statement is RIGHT ON! People may beg to differ with this - but their argument is with God - not me. If you were a christain you would not be offended - you would know exactly what I am talking about.

The concept of "Born again" has been around for about two thousand years now.

I would be offended by that if I were to be a Christian. Since I’m not, I will simply chalk it up to more absurdity embedded within this faith. You constantly seek to pit each other against one another. It’s worse than a bunch of fighting dogs in a ring.

That really is irrelevant. He was a catholic. Besides, we are discussing Germany.

Google

"Sociopath"

"Narcissistic Personality Disorder"

Then you will maybe better understand how the people of germany were fooled by Hitler

Actually longer if you think about it. It doesn't mean it is true though. It is either a possiblity or pure imagination, but in your case a truth to believe in.

Then I have an idea. Anyone who is not a real Christian, and anyone who does not love thy neighbor and practice what Jesus taught, should be kicked out of the Religion and not allowed to tell people they are Christians.

That includes the Bush family and Obama and anyone else.

That includes anyone who puts on a uniform and invades another country and anyone who pays taxes to support that effort.

But then, who would enforce this rule? Certainly not true Christians.

Answer this all you "Born again" Christians and 'other'Christians,:

Do you pay taxes? Do you support this illegal war? If you do, then you are not true Christians, you are just pretending to be.

Pointless? You are unclear on the concept. Yo take your definition of what a christain is from everywhere else but the source. All I want to know is WHY? Why do you have such a difficult time not getting the definition of what a christian is from the bible. You quote the writings of those who rationalize the definition and hold that opinion as your own. You don't see a problem with that? If you think about it - it is the very thing which you and others hold objection to. That christains blindly follow their pastors, and can't think for themselves. Yet you get your definition of christianity from those who aren't even christains.

MS I am well aware of how a sociopath is currently defined in modern psychiatric medicine. Incidentally many religious leaders have been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Just an FYI kind of thing here.

If you scroll up a bit, I pasted the actual article 24 taken directly from the Nazi constitution. Now you tell me these Christians were not well aware of his intentions. I will await your response.

Hmmm... how odd. A christain demonstrating how Hitler was not a christain.

Now - would you prefer that we believe a non-christain trying to explain how he was one?

Who's intelligence is being insulted here?

I have repeatedly told you what MY PERSONAL DEFINITION of a Christian is. I did not "get that from someone else". Holy crap. The balls on you to make such statements.

Even ANY of it would be a start.

Eljay the problem with that is there are people who consider themselves Christians that you do not consider to be true Christians. Therefore, you are calling them liars and it becomes a matter of opinion, theirs against yours.

Opinions.... everybody has one.

But I do understand what you are saying. If it be the gospel truth, then there are "Those who claim to be Christian but are not, and are the synagogue of Satan"

I believe this to be true. The most evil people with the most evil intentions hide in sheep clothing among the sheep and the flock has more wolves in sheep's clothing than sheep.

Henceforth one has to assume that everyone who calls them self 'Christian' must be under suspicion and not to be believed. (or trusted.)

You will know them by their deeds. But do not believe their proclemations.