Totalitarianism sounds more fundamentalist Judeo-Christian than agnostiism/atheism ever could. I mean really, you have a Strongman Alpha who, according to your religion, will assign every dissident to the worst gulag imaginable. Who gave His blessing to numerous examples of genocide?

As to the socialist angle, didn't the StrongMan Alpha's son preach what amounted to socialism?

Besides, I was born here and I quite like the freedom I'm sure I wouldn't see in a million years living under a conservative Judeo-Christian theocracy.


-Kerry O.

I can clearly see ....

that what Miles was trying to

share here, was MISUNDERSTOOD.



POINT Miles was trying to make was......

what if people came on here, judging ALL athesists to be communists, simply just because a FEW only are communist??

Just like some judge ALL Believers , by the ATROCITIES of a FEW?

That was Miles point......to not lump ALL atheists.....

and to not Lump all beleivers into one pile... just because of the the actions of a few

One thing I will say about Miles...

even though Miles and I do not agree on some things,

He at least comes on here, sharing his beliefs...

instead of being busy pointing out errors in others beliefs.

I would rather read Miles posts...

rather than to read posts on here, judging Obama, or the church or the pope,

or posts busy focusing and pointing out errors in others.

God says NOT to judge ... but to LOVE and PRAY for one another!!

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.”

Kerry?

Wanna KNOW what One Nation under God is?

The USA.

Why?

Becaue it DOES allow Freedom of religious choice.

Just like God allows us FREEDOM of choice.

Btw...that's the spirit of TRUE christianity !!

Notice..I did NOT say RELIGION.

But Christianity.

Christianity allows others the freedom of choice ,too.

Cause Christianity understands.....

that God doesn't want just a bunch of Robots believing or following Him.

In other words....

God does NOT want a bunch of people ....
being forced or dictated to... by RELIGION ... believing on him.

And THAT'S WHY America is about...

FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS CHOICE !!!!

And that is the true spirit behind Christianity too

YES! America is a land with an official religion, just like Iran! Americans everywhere worship the GOD of CEREMONIAL DEISM. That is why we have "under God" in the pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" as our national motto (instead of that namby-pamby "E Pluribus Unum!") and on our coins and currency. Christianity? Bah! Judaism? Bah! And forget Islam and Hinduism and Buddhism and the cult of Cthulhu. Our deity is Providence. The Capital City of Rhode Island is even named for our national God.

No Krimsa....

America is NOT a land of one official religion.

That's why America ALLOWS FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

Well yanno, MorningSong, it happens here regularly, doesn't it? Some Christian gets all puffed up and quotes the immortal line "This is a Christian Nation and if you as an anostic/atheist don't like, you can leave."


And the silence from your side of the room is deafening...


"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George H.W. Bush


-Kerry O.

Oh Morning Song it was a joke. Lighten up. Ceremonial Deism is all that "In God we Trust" and "One Nation Under God."

Oh..ok.....

Good picture of you ,by the way, Krimsa...


Krimsa...the best way to describe the USA ?

The USA is a Christian Nation.... that allows religious freedom for all.

Thanks.

Kerry....This is a Christian Nation...which allows freedom of choice...

meaning....Atheists aren't being forced to believe anything in this nation.


But ..let's ALL Now... atheists included....

ALLOW and RESPECT the religious freedom of choice of others now......

or....

the lack of religious choice of others now...

and try to live in LOVE and HARMONY with one another.


Let us not JUDGE one another's beliefs anymore ..or lack of beliefs.

Praying the people of this nation will come together in love and harmony now.

Despite different religious beliefs.
Or lack thereof.

Atheists are obsessed with nothing! They’re always trying to shove nothing down our throats!

"The United States is in no sense Founded upon the Christian Religion"
-George Washington

Noble sentiments, but when you have an ex-president saying such things as that quote, it sounds more like we have Christian rulers, however benign, preaching a strained tolerance for non-believers in Christianity, mostly for the P.R. value.

Yet, nowhere in the Consitution of these United States is the name 'Jesus Christ' to be found.


-Kerry O.

Article 11 Treaty with Tripoli

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

a weak or strong atheist - that's funny

in all seriousness - i'd say 'atheism' is a growing trend among the people today. Considering that nearly 66% of the planets population are either atheists or hindu - though i'm not sure what the numbers are for just atheists.

anyone know the population of china?

I always thought the Chinese were primarily Buddhists but I might be wrong. I know everyone always assumes that Atheists are all Communists and they are sometimes but that doesn't mean the landscape is totally devoid of organized religion.

^ you're right - china's a mixed bag like anywhere else. but for many years china was officially atheist.

i also love to point out that inherit flaw in using statistics. =oP

after all - 99% of prison inmates are bread eaters...


>=o[
those evil bread eaters....

lol

Yeah, I was just going to say. If you looked at China historically, when the Communists were very first entering the country and taking over then I’m sure they suppressed organized religion as much as possible and that lasted for several decades but then later all of the older traditions amongst the people living further away from Mainland China just krept back into practice. That always happens. Now its probably a mixed bag of everything, even Christianity.