Topic: RE-INCARNATION LOTS OF QUESTIOnS AND
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Sun 11/16/08 05:27 PM


That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing?


"JennieBean" if in reincarnation you retain memory then how many reincarnated babies do you know fresh out the womb that took a test to get their Masters Degree ...or did they all have to go to pre-school or start at the first grade like everyone else

which means the reincarnated have no memory of what they learned in their suppposely pass lives and have to start from scratch and repeat everything over and over ....


Those kinds of things are not what they learn. They learn how not to be such a jerk

They learn compassion, and love, and they learn what they like and what they want to create.

When you die and finally return to your higher self, EVERYTHING you learned in every life will be available to you. Every single moment in time will be remembered and recorded. You will remember every life and everything in that life.

That is what I believe.




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Sun 11/16/08 05:41 PM
Everybody has the right to their own opinion; however it seems to me that you are making it up as you go along.

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Sun 11/16/08 05:51 PM
Everybody has the right to their own opinion; however it seems to me that you are making it up as you go along.
Isn't that exactly what opinion is? It's "made up" and it changes as you gather more experience. Thus, what it "seems" to you is exactly what it is, by definition.

So is there a problem officer? laugh

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Sun 11/16/08 06:00 PM

Everybody has the right to their own opinion; however it seems to me that you are making it up as you go along.


Yep, I am. laugh laugh bigsmile :banana: :banana: flowerforyou waving tongue2 tongue2

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Sun 11/16/08 06:09 PM
The main problem with reincarnation is that the math doesnt work. For example; if you are a rapist you have to return as a victim to work out karma and learn your lesson. But in order to do this, reincarnation must create another rapist so that the original can return as the victim. This is an endless cycle.
Also, what are you saying with reincarnation?
That all the rich people here were poor in past lives and so deserve their riches? That all the victims of genocide in the sudan were murderers in past lives and so deserve to be slaughtered?
Reincarnation is a grown people fantasy for those who for whatever reason are unable to deal with the simple realities of life.

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Sun 11/16/08 06:13 PM
I learned that my existence and awareness are not dependent upon a physical
body.
that's the same information you get from a dream
You are mistaken. I do not get that information from a dream.

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Sun 11/16/08 06:18 PM



That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing?


"JennieBean" if in reincarnation you retain memory then how many reincarnated babies do you know fresh out the womb that took a test to get their Masters Degree ...or did they all have to go to pre-school or start at the first grade like everyone else

which means the reincarnated have no memory of what they learned in their suppposely pass lives and have to start from scratch and repeat everything over and over ....


Those kinds of things are not what they learn. They learn how not to be such a jerk

They learn compassion, and love, and they learn what they like and what they want to create.

When you die and finally return to your higher self, EVERYTHING you learned in every life will be available to you. Every single moment in time will be remembered and recorded. You will remember every life and everything in that life.

That is what I believe.


"JennieBean" your higher self isn't all that higher if you can't learn it the first time and have to constantly keep being reincarnated ..the fact that you are under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics in this reality shouldn't be that complicated for your hight self to understand in the other reality the first time you came and left this reality

but of course your response to me will be that you need to experience this reality for your higher self to learn..and my response to you would be that your higher self must be stuck in the same type of limbo that your reincarnated self is ..your higher self should be ascending not decending into this reality

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Sun 11/16/08 06:21 PM

The main problem with reincarnation is that the math doesnt work. For example; if you are a rapist you have to return as a victim to work out karma and learn your lesson. But in order to do this, reincarnation must create another rapist so that the original can return as the victim. This is an endless cycle.
Also, what are you saying with reincarnation?
That all the rich people here were poor in past lives and so deserve their riches? That all the victims of genocide in the sudan were murderers in past lives and so deserve to be slaughtered?
Reincarnation is a grown people fantasy for those who for whatever reason are unable to deal with the simple realities of life.


No, I am not saying any of that. I do not perport to know the answers to each individual's path through this matrix we call "The Game."

I don't know where you get your information about reincarnation but you can't assume it works that way. (If you don't want to believe in it that is certainly your choice.) I don't have the time or the desire to convince anyone, I just accept it as fact. I also don't want to argue about it. I can only say what I think and believe.

Like life, there are always a lot of variables in any event and why they happen. I believe in the law of attraction and that we manifest our personal reality with our thoughts.

Reincarnation is just a small part of the journey of the soul. Soul is infinite.

jb

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Sun 11/16/08 06:25 PM
The main problem with reincarnation is that the math doesnt work. For example; if you are a rapist you have to return as a victim to work out karma and learn your lesson. But in order to do this, reincarnation must create another rapist so that the original can return as the victim. This is an endless cycle.
Also, what are you saying with reincarnation? That all the rich people here were poor in past lives and so deserve their riches? That all the victims of genocide in the sudan were murderers in past lives and so deserve to be slaughtered?

That is only one theory of reincarnation among many. Not everyone agrees with that view. Personally I agree with your logic and that is why hold a different view of reincarnation.

Reincarnation is a grown people fantasy for those who for whatever reason are unable to deal with the simple realities of life.

That is an insecure person fantasy for those who for whatever reason must belittle others in order to feel better about themselves.

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Sun 11/16/08 06:25 PM




That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing?


"JennieBean" if in reincarnation you retain memory then how many reincarnated babies do you know fresh out the womb that took a test to get their Masters Degree ...or did they all have to go to pre-school or start at the first grade like everyone else

which means the reincarnated have no memory of what they learned in their suppposely pass lives and have to start from scratch and repeat everything over and over ....


Those kinds of things are not what they learn. They learn how not to be such a jerk

They learn compassion, and love, and they learn what they like and what they want to create.

When you die and finally return to your higher self, EVERYTHING you learned in every life will be available to you. Every single moment in time will be remembered and recorded. You will remember every life and everything in that life.

That is what I believe.


"JennieBean" your higher self isn't all that higher if you can't learn it the first time and have to constantly keep being reincarnated ..the fact that you are under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics in this reality shouldn't be that complicated for your hight self to understand in the other reality the first time you came and left this reality

but of course your response to me will be that you need to experience this reality for your higher self to learn..and my response to you would be that your higher self must be stuck in the same type of limbo that your reincarnated self is ..your higher self should be ascending not decending into this reality


My higher self is not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics. Only my little self is.

I am here for the game. We love games, and apparently so do you. Your game is a game of words.

You loose funches.

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Sun 11/16/08 06:27 PM

I learned that my existence and awareness are not dependent upon a physical
body.
that's the same information you get from a dream
You are mistaken. I do not get that information from a dream.


"Skyhook" ...er....ok....right

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Sun 11/16/08 06:28 PM
Funches to JB

your higher self isn't all that higher


This quote is an all-time favorite...

Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain.


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Sun 11/16/08 06:29 PM




You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell


"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level


But you don't.
If you do as you are told, in your next life you might be a geniuslaugh


reincarnation sounds more like an addiction to come back


Aren't we addicted to hope?

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Sun 11/16/08 06:31 PM

Funches to JB

your higher self isn't all that higher


This quote is an all-time favorite...

Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain.




That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me.
It is me.


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Sun 11/16/08 06:33 PM





That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing?


"JennieBean" if in reincarnation you retain memory then how many reincarnated babies do you know fresh out the womb that took a test to get their Masters Degree ...or did they all have to go to pre-school or start at the first grade like everyone else

which means the reincarnated have no memory of what they learned in their suppposely pass lives and have to start from scratch and repeat everything over and over ....


Those kinds of things are not what they learn. They learn how not to be such a jerk

They learn compassion, and love, and they learn what they like and what they want to create.

When you die and finally return to your higher self, EVERYTHING you learned in every life will be available to you. Every single moment in time will be remembered and recorded. You will remember every life and everything in that life.

That is what I believe.


"JennieBean" your higher self isn't all that higher if you can't learn it the first time and have to constantly keep being reincarnated ..the fact that you are under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics in this reality shouldn't be that complicated for your hight self to understand in the other reality the first time you came and left this reality

but of course your response to me will be that you need to experience this reality for your higher self to learn..and my response to you would be that your higher self must be stuck in the same type of limbo that your reincarnated self is ..your higher self should be ascending not decending into this reality


My higher self is not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics. Only my little self is.

I am here for the game. We love games, and apparently so do you. Your game is a game of words.

You loose funches.


"JennieBean" you mis-read the post ..I said that your higher self supposely being smarter should have realized the first time you came and left this reality that your reincarnated self was under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics

and that if you had to constantly keep coming back to this reality it was because of your higher self failure to ascend any higher

also you may say that you love to play games but that is just an indication that your higher self is no better off that your reincarnated self and both of your selves are stuck in limbo

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Sun 11/16/08 06:38 PM





You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell


"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level


But you don't.
If you do as you are told, in your next life you might be a geniuslaugh


reincarnation sounds more like an addiction to come back


Aren't we addicted to hope?


I hope not

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Sun 11/16/08 06:44 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Sun 11/16/08 06:49 PM

I have some daja vu's when i travel around this county.it happens in my waking hr's that's creepy.
Yes its real I say ive been here befor. to myself.
Dang im a beliver,but when and as what something.
Tells me it could be jus possible that some folks.
Are throw-backs from some where eles in time and.
We know we been there befor. and with me the feeling's so strong!I aknowledge it! i feel if you don't you'll be so lost and you won't have a Reson to be in this era.It used to be scay as a child but my aunt was a Medium she knew i was an old soul. she passed away two years ago!I miss our talks about this subject? its deep! Hay thanks for the post its an interestingSubject!
Koolaidwoman you got it going on jus remember that!Mr you must be a heavy dude in a good way.
I enjoy talking to the gifted!.TC of you Koolaid.
flowerforyoushades




If Deja Vu is like a flash of concentrated data from the sub conscious mind or higher self, imagine how much more concentrated information we aren't taking in? Is it really memory? Sure feels like that... or a vision of something in the future.

I believe that this vast reservoir (bridged by the "sub conscious") is where answers reside and that we're not given the whole picture in order to focus specifically on the lessons in front of us (within a particular lifetime). Information from previous "lessons" would clog our perception of current data.

Perhaps a time is coming in which we will have further access to this vast knowing. Of course I don't know how. If we can access it in our dreams, its got to be because our conscious minds aren't at that time running the show (while we sleep).

So... that would mean that some sort of shift in "consciousness" would probably need to occur.

Will dramatic circumstances have to be the cause of this sort of shift?

Or... are these very discussions somehow "helping" move us closer toward the shift?

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Sun 11/16/08 06:50 PM


Funches to JB

your higher self isn't all that higher


This quote is an all-time favorite...

Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain.




That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me.
It is me.


wasn't that the quote from the exorcist?... as "Spendidlife" might say.. bring it home ...but anyway

"JennieBean" you are making it up as you go...but as I said if your higher self is within you now then both of your selves are stuck in limbo neither one learning or excelling

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Sun 11/16/08 06:54 PM


Funches to JB

your higher self isn't all that higher


This quote is an all-time favorite...

Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain.




That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me.
It is me.



Precisely...

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Sun 11/16/08 06:54 PM



Funches to JB

your higher self isn't all that higher


This quote is an all-time favorite...

Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain.




That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me.
It is me.


wasn't that the quote from the exorcist?... as "Spendidlife" might say.. bring it home ...but anyway

"JennieBean" you are making it up as you go...but as I said if your higher self is within you now then both of your selves are stuck in limbo neither one learning or excelling


That is only your unqualified opinion. You have no idea what I have learned. You are just being annoying. Goodbye.