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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Do we have the ability to choose what we will be as some say here? Then why choose to be someone or something that will insure our failure to get out of the recycling program? Again if we can choose to NOT be recycled, why would we choose to do so time and again? Whats the point? are their those here that actually like the struggles of this life? Or do you always know you'll come back and be rich or famous and wont suffer the moral and ethical and emotional issues each time? Is this really fun for you? enjoyable? how many billions of years has this recycling program been going on? And yet those who believe have not opted out yet? C'mon!! Why doesn't anyone reincarnate as Buddha, why doesn't ""everyone"" reincarnate as Buddha if that is the goal to be reached? Do you choose to learn infinitely slow? WHY? if you have the choice to do or not do this as to time frame - meaning you can choose when you will be re-incarnated - why not choose a time way in the future, where maybe all this pettiness and disease and war and other religion etc., ad museum is done away with? why such a hurry to re-enter into the same basic situation over and over again? JB says you have the free will to do whatever in the higher planes - so why choose to do it back to back, knowing what is most likely in store - another re-incarnation? It's said you keep learning and that is the point, i say if your learning it must not be the right things else it would not continue for millenia after millenia. i don't see that as learning i see that as entities not seeing the forest for the trees. All it says to me is that which Einstein said, "there are only two infinite things - the universe and mans stupidity - and I'm not sure about the universe." Who says one does not return to human form wiser? How can you be so sure? Where did your absolutes come from? I see a much more soul centric evolution occurring... I see many many many young children, and young people much more highly evolved than my generation, or even my predecessors generation. I suspect it IS possible to return to this existance with a higher innate wisdom, and a memory of before. """Who says one does not return to human form wiser? How can you be so sure?""" HISTORY AND 6.5 BILLION PEOPLE that are alive today. if your looking strictly at sciences and industry and such as a thermometer for wisdom, then i could possibly agree that there have been advancements in many feilds - but from a "MORAL!" stand point - mankind's morals have gotten no better in all of recorded history.If mans morals have not improved towards this concept of reaching "NIRVANA" then whats the point? more science to get us to live longer and be just as immoral as ever? what good is that? if mans morals do not improve then all of his so called improvement in other areas is a moot point to me. i see no religious beliefs that qualify as "MORAL" behavior modifier's that improves man in any way - what the bulk of humanity call wisdom is not wisdom but just intellect and knowledge that has done little good as to changing who and what man is at his core, he remains the same pitiful stuck in a rut moral human being he has always been. Wow!!! Is it cold in there???? How can you be so cold? None of what you said is evidential.... none of it... it is a PERCEPTION... Morals have NOTHING to do with how one recalls their wisdom. If anything, morals are a societal hangover, needed to be shed, for a person to live and exist ETHICALLY, and AUTHENTICALLY. Maybe your six billion science experiements in your US perception are all no good, and only scientists are capable of existing, but that is quite frankly a complete narrow view. Perhaps if you expanded your views to the greatness that is evolving so rapidly before our very eyes, in this 2st century, you would understand my frustration at your comments. |
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Do we have the ability to choose what we will be as some say here? Then why choose to be someone or something that will insure our failure to get out of the recycling program? Again if we can choose to NOT be recycled, why would we choose to do so time and again? Whats the point? are their those here that actually like the struggles of this life? Or do you always know you'll come back and be rich or famous and wont suffer the moral and ethical and emotional issues each time? Is this really fun for you? enjoyable? how many billions of years has this recycling program been going on? And yet those who believe have not opted out yet? C'mon!! Why doesn't anyone reincarnate as Buddha, why doesn't ""everyone"" reincarnate as Buddha if that is the goal to be reached? Do you choose to learn infinitely slow? WHY? if you have the choice to do or not do this as to time frame - meaning you can choose when you will be re-incarnated - why not choose a time way in the future, where maybe all this pettiness and disease and war and other religion etc., ad museum is done away with? why such a hurry to re-enter into the same basic situation over and over again? JB says you have the free will to do whatever in the higher planes - so why choose to do it back to back, knowing what is most likely in store - another re-incarnation? It's said you keep learning and that is the point, i say if your learning it must not be the right things else it would not continue for millenia after millenia. i don't see that as learning i see that as entities not seeing the forest for the trees. All it says to me is that which Einstein said, "there are only two infinite things - the universe and mans stupidity - and I'm not sure about the universe." Who says one does not return to human form wiser? How can you be so sure? Where did your absolutes come from? I see a much more soul centric evolution occurring... I see many many many young children, and young people much more highly evolved than my generation, or even my predecessors generation. I suspect it IS possible to return to this existance with a higher innate wisdom, and a memory of before. """Who says one does not return to human form wiser? How can you be so sure?""" HISTORY AND 6.5 BILLION PEOPLE that are alive today. if your looking strictly at sciences and industry and such as a thermometer for wisdom, then i could possibly agree that there have been advancements in many feilds - but from a "MORAL!" stand point - mankind's morals have gotten no better in all of recorded history.If mans morals have not improved towards this concept of reaching "NIRVANA" then whats the point? more science to get us to live longer and be just as immoral as ever? what good is that? if mans morals do not improve then all of his so called improvement in other areas is a moot point to me. i see no religious beliefs that qualify as "MORAL" behavior modifier's that improves man in any way - what the bulk of humanity call wisdom is not wisdom but just intellect and knowledge that has done little good as to changing who and what man is at his core, he remains the same pitiful stuck in a rut moral human being he has always been. Wow!!! Is it cold in there???? How can you be so cold? None of what you said is evidential.... none of it... it is a PERCEPTION... Morals have NOTHING to do with how one recalls their wisdom. If anything, morals are a societal hangover, needed to be shed, for a person to live and exist ETHICALLY, and AUTHENTICALLY. Maybe your six billion science experiements in your US perception are all no good, and only scientists are capable of existing, but that is quite frankly a complete narrow view. Perhaps if you expanded your views to the greatness that is evolving so rapidly before our very eyes, in this 2st century, you would understand my frustration at your comments. then explain to me what nirvana is what buddha taught was it perceptions or moral things? |
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. |
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. But if i can only know and make that choice when im not here then it is not really a choice - games here played over and over are either out of boredom or love of the game - but that is both by choice - if when here i'm not aware of the choice it is not a real choice - if when I'm there if I'm not aware of what the game will consist of here then there is no real choice. its a catch 22 do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh |
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. |
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!!  Tribo....what is your soul purpose? |
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. But if i can only know and make that choice when im not here then it is not really a choice - games here played over and over are either out of boredom or love of the game - but that is both by choice - if when here i'm not aware of the choice it is not a real choice - if when I'm there if I'm not aware of what the game will consist of here then there is no real choice. its a catch 22 do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh I would guess that it is "necessary". We're just not given the total picture of why. As we don't have the picture of the non-physical while in this physical realm, perhaps we are not given the picture of the physical realm while in the non-physical. One can only know light when given the experience of dark with which to compare the light... Right? |
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!! Tribo....what is your soul purpose? WOW i'm not sure how to answer that - do you mean the purpose of my soul? or my endeavor to understand? or my intentions here today? or why i'm here? or my interst in rythm and blues music? |
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!! Tribo....what is your soul purpose? WOW i'm not sure how to answer that - do you mean the purpose of my soul? or my endeavor to understand? or my intentions here today? or why i'm here? or my interst in rythm and blues music? All of it... I am curious. What comes up in you with that question? I mean exactly what I wrote.... how you interpret it, is your perception of you.  
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!! Tribo....what is your soul purpose? WOW i'm not sure how to answer that - do you mean the purpose of my soul? or my endeavor to understand? or my intentions here today? or why i'm here? or my interst in rythm and blues music? All of it... I am curious. What comes up in you with that question? I mean exactly what I wrote.... how you interpret it, is your perception of you. i dont have a perception of me - just ask funches or jb - im not sure i exist!! -  but if i do i dont like the fact i was not asked if i wanted to play or join the team or even tryout for it. |
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i dont have a perception of me - just ask funches or jb - im not sure i exist!! - but if i do i dont like the fact i was not asked if i wanted to play or join the team or even tryout for it. .........or that you may have forgotten? 
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!! Tribo....what is your soul purpose? WOW i'm not sure how to answer that - do you mean the purpose of my soul? or my endeavor to understand? or my intentions here today? or why i'm here? or my interst in rythm and blues music? All of it... I am curious. What comes up in you with that question? I mean exactly what I wrote.... how you interpret it, is your perception of you. i dont have a perception of me - just ask funches or jb - im not sure i exist!! - but if i do i dont like the fact i was not asked if i wanted to play or join the team or even tryout for it. How do you know you didn't put yourself on the waiting list to participate? |
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i dont have a perception of me - just ask funches or jb - im not sure i exist!! - but if i do i dont like the fact i was not asked if i wanted to play or join the team or even tryout for it. .........or that you may have forgotten? or that i never knew to begin with!
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. ""Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. tkae it up with buddha, its not my idea. 
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. If you choose to play a game. Once you've made that choice you cannot change the fact that you made it. You can choose to stop playing the game if you wish. But the original choice to play the game was a choice, whether you change your mind later or not. And it was still a choice, if you forget that you made the choice. if when I'm there if I'm not aware of what the game will consist of here then there is no real choice. its a catch 22 Same thing here. If you choose to play a game, that is a choice, regardless of whether or not you know what the rules of the game are beforehand. do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh I dunno. But it seems to me that you can blame it on someone else ("it's the game designer's fault that I'm losing"), or you can take personal responsibility for it ("I really suck at this stupid game.") 
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. ""Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. tkae it up with buddha, its not my idea. Okay... He's downstairs on the couch, probably in RPM (Rapid Paw Movement) as we speak. Buddha just turned 4 years old... He's a 75 pound, half Dobie, half Shar Pei cross. |
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. ""Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. tkae it up with buddha, its not my idea. Okay... He's downstairs on the couch, probably in RPM (Rapid Paw Movement) as we speak. Buddha just turned 4 years old... He's a 75 pound, half Dobie, half Shar Pei cross. well then go ask him. and does he remeber being a man named buddha? if so and he reached nirvana what the hells he doing with you? [hmmm? neve mind, im scared of the answer}
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. If you choose to play a game. Once you've made that choice you cannot change the fact that you made it. You can choose to stop playing the game if you wish. But the original choice to play the game was a choice, whether you change your mind later or not. And it was still a choice, if you forget that you made the choice. if when I'm there if I'm not aware of what the game will consist of here then there is no real choice. its a catch 22 Same thing here. If you choose to play a game, that is a choice, regardless of whether or not you know what the rules of the game are beforehand. do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh I dunno. But it seems to me that you can blame it on someone else ("it's the game designer's fault that I'm losing"), or you can take personal responsibility for it ("I really suck at this stupid game.") Sky, your assuming i made the choice to play, first off to be able to make that chioce i would have to see and know and agree with the game - i have no racall of that so until i do i thinks its malarky. bull, not true. to me there exist a spirit world, thats all i know, all else is up for interpretation, i dont think anyone has enough proof of reincarnation to build there beliefs around them as acceptable. but thats just my opinion. |
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splendidlife
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[hmmm? neve mind, im scared of the answer} As you should be, my dear... As you should. 
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[hmmm? neve mind, im scared of the answer} As you should, my dear... As you should.  
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