Topic: RE-INCARNATION LOTS OF QUESTIOnS AND
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Sun 11/16/08 12:56 PM


how would you know the maize is different if you didn't retain any useable memory from the last time you were in the maize

and before you say that you have ...then share this new unknown knowledge ..and please no star trek concepts


Who says you don't remember?

Just because you can't...does not make it a universal truth.

bigsmile

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Sun 11/16/08 01:02 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 11/16/08 01:04 PM
reincarnation seems more like being trapped in limbo ...you die come back and remember nothing ..you never excel but instead repeat the same experience over and over ..
I'd like to address this if I may.

When I decide to play a game of basketball with my brother, I don't repeat the same game over and over. It's a different game every time. And the reason I decide to play multiple games is because I enjoy the comraderie. I enjoy the interaction. I enjoy it when I make a good shot or beat him to a rebound. I enjoy it because it is different game each time I play.

But I don't feel like I need to start each game with the same score as I ended the last one. Each game is a separate game in it's own right. It is not a continuation of past games, nor is it a bridge to any future games. It's a complete, self contained game all by itself.

That's how I look at reicarnation.

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Sun 11/16/08 01:04 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/16/08 01:05 PM




How do you know that? You don't know anything funches.
I have learned a lot and it will excel me to the next adventure.

JB


the next adventure in the same maize


Perhaps. If you think this world is hurting for adventure and drama and opportunity, you need to expand your view of it.

But that is probably why one lifetime here is not enough to experience this world. It takes hundreds of lifetimes.

The next adventure out of this maize will be totally different.

JB


how would you know the maize is different if you didn't retain any useable memory from the last time you were in the maize

and before you say that you have ...then share this new unknown knowledge ..and please no star trek concepts


I said that there are many different adventures here on this earth in this galaxy and that is why so many lives are required to experience it.

If you don't believe that just take a look around the world.

Any new or "unknown knowledge" is not for you, it was for me to know and experience.

The next world will be very different. I do not know this, I was told this and I believe it.


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Sun 11/16/08 01:41 PM



how would you know the maize is different if you didn't retain any useable memory from the last time you were in the maize

and before you say that you have ...then share this new unknown knowledge ..and please no star trek concepts


Who says you don't remember?

Just because you can't...does not make it a universal truth.

bigsmile


"Jess" yes it does ...that why no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge" ..they can always claim they forgot

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Sun 11/16/08 01:57 PM

reincarnation seems more like being trapped in limbo ...you die come back and remember nothing ..you never excel but instead repeat the same experience over and over ..
I'd like to address this if I may.

When I decide to play a game of basketball with my brother, I don't repeat the same game over and over. It's a different game every time. And the reason I decide to play multiple games is because I enjoy the comraderie. I enjoy the interaction. I enjoy it when I make a good shot or beat him to a rebound. I enjoy it because it is different game each time I play.

But I don't feel like I need to start each game with the same score as I ended the last one. Each game is a separate game in it's own right. It is not a continuation of past games, nor is it a bridge to any future games. It's a complete, self contained game all by itself.

That's how I look at reicarnation.



"Skyhook" ..the only goal of basketball is to place the ball in the basket..everytime you come back to play the game it is the same goal ...you may view it as interaction but that's part of the illusion to keep you coming back... but the same activity over and over brings stagnation not accension

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Sun 11/16/08 01:59 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 11/16/08 01:59 PM
Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."

Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)

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Sun 11/16/08 02:04 PM

I said that there are many different adventures here on this earth in this galaxy and that is why so many lives are required to experience it.

If you don't believe that just take a look around the world.

Any new or "unknown knowledge" is not for you, it was for me to know and experience.

The next world will be very different. I do not know this, I was told this and I believe it.


"JennieBean" the new unknown knowledge would be for me too ..it would be for everyone and all and if you can not tell of any new knowledge then you have experience none beyond that which have already been experience ...to prove me wrong all you have to do is supply some "new unknown knowledge"


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Sun 11/16/08 02:36 PM

Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."

Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)



"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream

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Sun 11/16/08 02:40 PM


Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."

Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)



"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream


Is that not where our talents come in?
I do think in this life we are more talented in things we learned in a former life.

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Sun 11/16/08 02:43 PM
"NEW" >unknown< knowledge?

As compared to - "OLD" >unknown< knowledge?


What exactly are you getting at funch?

do you mean knowledge that "no one knows yet"?

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Sun 11/16/08 02:51 PM



Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."

Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)



"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream


Is that not where our talents come in?
I do think in this life we are more talented in things we learned in a former life.


"invisible" ...that's why reincarnation seems more like it's limbo ...it's not about excelling ..just doing the same thing over and over...like being trapped in a time warp

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Sun 11/16/08 02:51 PM


I said that there are many different adventures here on this earth in this galaxy and that is why so many lives are required to experience it.

If you don't believe that just take a look around the world.

Any new or "unknown knowledge" is not for you, it was for me to know and experience.

The next world will be very different. I do not know this, I was told this and I believe it.


"JennieBean" the new unknown knowledge would be for me too ..it would be for everyone and all and if you can not tell of any new knowledge then you have experience none beyond that which have already been experience ...to prove me wrong all you have to do is supply some "new unknown knowledge"




I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


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Sun 11/16/08 02:55 PM




Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."

Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)



"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream


Is that not where our talents come in?
I do think in this life we are more talented in things we learned in a former life.


"invisible" ...that's why reincarnation seems more like it's limbo ...it's not about excelling ..just doing the same thing over and over...like being trapped in a time warp


You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell

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Sun 11/16/08 02:59 PM

"NEW" >unknown< knowledge?

As compared to - "OLD" >unknown< knowledge?


What exactly are you getting at funch?

do you mean knowledge that "no one knows yet"?


"Tribo" .."new unknown knowledge" would be information not of this reality

anyone can make claims of reincarnation ..but since one has to die first then clearly there is a process one has to go through to come back which means other realms of reality or non-reality are enter into where the knowledge is alien of this reality ......but no one so far has supply any such knowledge...reincarnation seems to breed memory loss

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Sun 11/16/08 03:01 PM
Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."
Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)
"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream


How was that an exmaple of new unknown knowledge? Or was it?

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Sun 11/16/08 03:06 PM

I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever

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Sun 11/16/08 03:10 PM
Just to break up the arguing a bit.....oh yeahhhh


It's the sweet, sweet, sweet
presence of Jesus
how it moves my soul
how it makes me whole
It's the sweet, sweet, sweet
presence of Jesus
how it sets me free
brings me liberty
It takes me to a higher place
where there's amazing grace
takes me to a higher place
where I can see his face
Shout for joy
all you children of the Lord
the Almighty is here
removing doubt and fear
shout for joy
let the hurting hear and rejoice
the Almighty is here
moving everywhere

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Sun 11/16/08 03:15 PM

You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell


"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level

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Sun 11/16/08 03:19 PM
funches said:
"new unknown knowledge" would be information not of this reality
Now that's what I've been looking for. A simple, straightforward deifnition.

Now just let me make sure of one other thing. By "reality" I assume you mean "the physical universe". Is that correct?

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Sun 11/16/08 03:20 PM


You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell


"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level


But you don't.
If you do as you are told, in your next life you might be a geniuslaugh