Topic: RE-INCARNATION LOTS OF QUESTIOnS AND
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Sun 11/16/08 03:21 PM


I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
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"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever


"Ascention" is like "graduation." You do not usually graduate after attending one year of school.

Did you go to school Funches? How many grades did you go through? Did you graduate after the first grade?


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Sun 11/16/08 03:23 PM

Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."
Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)
"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream


How was that an exmaple of new unknown knowledge? Or was it?


"Skyhook" ..you said that you came out of your body ..so what you learn in that experience beyond mind/or faith

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Sun 11/16/08 03:29 PM

funches said:
"new unknown knowledge" would be information not of this reality
Now that's what I've been looking for. A simple, straightforward deifnition.

Now just let me make sure of one other thing. By "reality" I assume you mean "the physical universe". Is that correct?


"Skyhook" I mean the reality beyond a dream

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Sun 11/16/08 03:33 PM



You just want to be awkward, is it?
It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference.

Even you should see that.ohwell


"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level


But you don't.
If you do as you are told, in your next life you might be a geniuslaugh


reincarnation sounds more like an addiction to come back

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Sun 11/16/08 03:34 PM



I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever


"Ascention" is like "graduation." You do not usually graduate after attending one year of school.

Did you go to school Funches? How many grades did you go through? Did you graduate after the first grade?



yep

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Sun 11/16/08 03:36 PM




I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever


"Ascention" is like "graduation." You do not usually graduate after attending one year of school.

Did you go to school Funches? How many grades did you go through? Did you graduate after the first grade?



yep


Well that explains everything. tongue2

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Sun 11/16/08 03:46 PM





I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever


"Ascention" is like "graduation." You do not usually graduate after attending one year of school.

Did you go to school Funches? How many grades did you go through? Did you graduate after the first grade?



yep


Well that explains everything. tongue2


I graduated to the second grade ...but anyway

"JennieBean"..whether in the first grade or if one had a Masters Degree what knowledge would either have learned in school or in the world that would excel them beyond the existence they were in

in the world of reincarnation no one remembers anything when they come back which means they all start back in the first grade

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Sun 11/16/08 03:48 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 11/16/08 03:49 PM
Funches said:
...no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge..."
Funches, I still don't quite understand exactly what you mean by "new unknown knowledge".

Can you give an example?

Such as: "_________ happened and as a result of that, the new unknown knowledge is __________"
(fill in the blanks)
"Skyhook"..I really didn't want to bring this up but this example will be something that you can relate to ..you once told of having an out of body experience but you brought back nothing beyond that you have an experience..

you were in a total alien enviroment that may or may not have been a part of reality but brought back no knowledge beyond that of a dream ...and that all it appears reincarnation is doing ..don't you have to die first and therefore enter other realms ..so shouldn't you atleast know something new that is beyond a dream
How was that an exmaple of new unknown knowledge? Or was it?
"Skyhook" ..you said that you came out of your body ..so what you learn in that experience beyond mind/or faith
I learned that my existence and awareness are not dependent upon a physical body.

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Sun 11/16/08 03:57 PM

I learned that my existence and awareness are not dependent upon a physical body.


that's the same information you get from a dream ..."Skyhook" so far you been dreaming ..unless you can come up with some new knowledge that show otherwise

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Sun 11/16/08 04:10 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 11/16/08 04:11 PM
I learned that my existence and awareness are not dependent upon a physical body.
that's the same information you get from a dream ..."Skyhook" so far you been dreaming ..unless you can come up with some new knowledge that show otherwise
Maybe you get that information from a dream, but I don't.

But that doesn't even matter.

What matters it that you are certain that it was a dream.

Ok, I agree that you are certain that it was a dream.

No problem.

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Sun 11/16/08 04:12 PM




how would you know the maize is different if you didn't retain any useable memory from the last time you were in the maize

and before you say that you have ...then share this new unknown knowledge ..and please no star trek concepts


Who says you don't remember?

Just because you can't...does not make it a universal truth.

bigsmile


"Jess" yes it does ...that why no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge" ..they can always claim they forgot


Your absolutes are blinding you.


And the oxymoron has me giggling...
New unknown knowledge.....

if it's unknown how can it be knowledge?

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Sun 11/16/08 04:20 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 11/16/08 04:21 PM
how would you know the maize is different if you didn't retain any useable memory from the last time you were in the maize

and before you say that you have ...then share this new unknown knowledge ..and please no star trek concepts
Who says you don't remember?

Just because you can't...does not make it a universal truth.

bigsmile
"Jess" yes it does ...that why no one can ever tell of any "new unknown knowledge" ..they can always claim they forgot
Your absolutes are blinding you.


And the oxymoron has me giggling...
New unknown knowledge.....

if it's unknown how can it be knowledge?
Here's another oxymoron.

He defines "new unknown knowledge" as
information not of this reality


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Sun 11/16/08 04:23 PM
So if the knowledge is unknown.... then can the it be delusional dreaming of the fallacy variety?


Oh!!! ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!



rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 11/16/08 04:31 PM

So if the knowledge is unknown.... then can the it be delusional dreaming of the fallacy variety?


Oh!!! ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!



rofl rofl rofl rofl
rofl

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Sun 11/16/08 04:35 PM
I absolutely believe in reincarnation, however, I have no idea how it works anymore than Christians can really tell you how Heaven and Hell will work.

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Sun 11/16/08 04:36 PM






I don't have to prove you wrong. I don't even know what you are saying. I don't even know what your point is. I don't even know what you are trying to get me to prove to you. And I don't really care either.
laugh laugh laugh laugh tongue2


"JennieBean" my point is that reincarnation is about stagnation not accension ..it's like repeating the same grade in school ....forever


"Ascention" is like "graduation." You do not usually graduate after attending one year of school.

Did you go to school Funches? How many grades did you go through? Did you graduate after the first grade?



yep


Well that explains everything. tongue2


I graduated to the second grade ...but anyway

"JennieBean"..whether in the first grade or if one had a Masters Degree what knowledge would either have learned in school or in the world that would excel them beyond the existence they were in

in the world of reincarnation no one remembers anything when they come back which means they all start back in the first grade



That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing? Just because you do not remember your past life details does not mean you did not learn something. The memory is there. You just have to listen to and understand your true self. When you were in school you learned to read. But you do not remember every book you read in doing so.


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Sun 11/16/08 04:37 PM
I have some daja vu's when i travel around this county.it happens in my waking hr's that's creepy.
Yes its real I say ive been here befor. to myself.
Dang im a beliver,but when and as what something.
Tells me it could be jus possible that some folks.
Are throw-backs from some where eles in time and.
We know we been there befor. and with me the feeling's so strong!I aknowledge it! i feel if you don't you'll be so lost and you won't have a Reson to be in this era.It used to be scay as a child but my aunt was a Medium she knew i was an old soul. she passed away two years ago!I miss our talks about this subject? its deep! Hay thanks for the post its an interestingSubject!
Koolaidwoman you got it going on jus remember that!Mr you must be a heavy dude in a good way.
I enjoy talking to the gifted!.TC of you Koolaid.
flowerforyoushades


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Sun 11/16/08 04:55 PM

Your absolutes are blinding you.


And the oxymoron has me giggling...
New unknown knowledge.....

if it's unknown how can it be knowledge?


"Jess" you are equating knowledge with consciousness ...any action that has taken place or is taking place is due to the exchange of knowledge from one object to another to set it into action ...


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Sun 11/16/08 05:01 PM
I have noticed that many of the people who believe in reincarnation all claim to have been something great in a past life, but now they are chumps. In another life I was king; yeah right. Nobody ever claims to be a slave in a past life. Also the people who believe in reincarnation often believe in other weird things as well, this is the here and now, if you are not with it, you could have easily ended up in johnstown drinking the coolaid and I would know, I consider myself to be one of the survivors of Jim Jones.

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Sun 11/16/08 05:09 PM

That is an unproven assumption. Why would you assume such a thing?


"JennieBean" if in reincarnation you retain memory then how many reincarnated babies do you know fresh out the womb that took a test to get their Masters Degree ...or did they all have to go to pre-school or start at the first grade like everyone else

which means the reincarnated have no memory of what they learned in their suppposely pass lives and have to start from scratch and repeat everything over and over ....