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Topic: has the "big bang theory" become a religious belief?
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Sun 10/26/08 06:09 PM



Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. :tongue:Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. :tongue:


i agree Krim, but to think that love is an abormal craving is nonsense - what of the love of a parent for a child? or love for or of a friend? or even an animal? by definition and life itself it is an emotion, no more no less.

i think funch must have picked the craving thing up from his freinds "i gotta craving for love" and took it to mean sex, like he'd say "i gotta craving for pizza" same diff. sorry funch but thats what it sounds like. to me.


"Tribo" as I say in the description of love it can also be a duty ...which explains the love for a child

as for cravings I never ate a pizza or drank a cup of coffee in my life


"RAISING" a child is a >duty<,[parentally] - loving a child or anything is an ""emotional"" involvement. i love my niece's and nephews, but i have no duty to them.

sorry - i should have used your words " it's greasy food beer watch a crappy sci-fi movie time now" i concidered pizza to be a greasy food that you maybe eating, evidentally it was one of numerous other greasy foods. :tongue:

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Sun 10/26/08 06:20 PM
I think Samuel Adams might have been a Deist also. Just kidding, I'll stop. bigsmile

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Sun 10/26/08 06:41 PM

I think Samuel Adams might have been a Deist also. Just kidding, I'll stop. bigsmile


Oh he was for sure - it was christianity that ALE'd him. it drove him to drink! and " foam" at the mouth - [well around the mouth anyway]. it got him into a "VAT" of trouble, i think he was part he-"BREW" to. but he was smart - "HEAD" of his class. had alot of knowledge on "TAP" - should i continue - bigsmile


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Sun 10/26/08 07:08 PM

"RAISING" a child is a >duty<,[parentally] - loving a child or anything is an ""emotional"" involvement. i love my niece's and nephews, but i have no duty to them.


"Tribo" that's what I mean you form an emotional attachment but an emotional attachment takes time which means you have the time to choose if you want that attachment ..that's the same thing as building up an addiction


sorry - i should have used your words " it's greasy food beer watch a crappy sci-fi movie time now" i concidered pizza to be a greasy food that you maybe eating, evidentally it was one of numerous other greasy foods. :tongue:


pizza looks to weird to eat ...in fact it has the appearance that it already been eaten and barf back up


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Sun 10/26/08 07:13 PM


"RAISING" a child is a >duty<,[parentally] - loving a child or anything is an ""emotional"" involvement. i love my niece's and nephews, but i have no duty to them.


"Tribo" that's what I mean you form an emotional attachment but an emotional attachment takes time which means you have the time to choose if you want that attachment ..that's the same thing as building up an addiction


sorry - i should have used your words " it's greasy food beer watch a crappy sci-fi movie time now" i concidered pizza to be a greasy food that you maybe eating, evidentally it was one of numerous other greasy foods. :tongue:


pizza looks to weird to eat ...in fact it has the appearance that it already been eaten and barf back up




well if you like bread and you like spaghetti sauce on your speghetti and you like the types of meats and veggies that you can choose to use and you like cheese - then you would like pizza. i didn't like the look of lobster when i first saw it or shrimp either, but i grew up and tried it - you may not like how it' looks but the taste waaayyyyy makes up for it.

im through argeing over love, i have no love for it -

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Sun 10/26/08 07:21 PM



"RAISING" a child is a >duty<,[parentally] - loving a child or anything is an ""emotional"" involvement. i love my niece's and nephews, but i have no duty to them.


"Tribo" that's what I mean you form an emotional attachment but an emotional attachment takes time which means you have the time to choose if you want that attachment ..that's the same thing as building up an addiction


sorry - i should have used your words " it's greasy food beer watch a crappy sci-fi movie time now" i concidered pizza to be a greasy food that you maybe eating, evidentally it was one of numerous other greasy foods. :tongue:


pizza looks to weird to eat ...in fact it has the appearance that it already been eaten and barf back up




well if you like bread and you like spaghetti sauce on your speghetti and you like the types of meats and veggies that you can choose to use and you like cheese - then you would like pizza. i didn't like the look of lobster when i first saw it or shrimp either, but i grew up and tried it - you may not like how it' looks but the taste waaayyyyy makes up for it.

im through argeing over love, i have no love for it -


I never ate cheese before either ..or lobster because it look like a giant mutant cockroach

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Sun 10/26/08 07:35 PM




"RAISING" a child is a >duty<,[parentally] - loving a child or anything is an ""emotional"" involvement. i love my niece's and nephews, but i have no duty to them.


"Tribo" that's what I mean you form an emotional attachment but an emotional attachment takes time which means you have the time to choose if you want that attachment ..that's the same thing as building up an addiction


sorry - i should have used your words " it's greasy food beer watch a crappy sci-fi movie time now" i concidered pizza to be a greasy food that you maybe eating, evidentally it was one of numerous other greasy foods. :tongue:


pizza looks to weird to eat ...in fact it has the appearance that it already been eaten and barf back up




well if you like bread and you like spaghetti sauce on your speghetti and you like the types of meats and veggies that you can choose to use and you like cheese - then you would like pizza. i didn't like the look of lobster when i first saw it or shrimp either, but i grew up and tried it - you may not like how it' looks but the taste waaayyyyy makes up for it.

im through argeing over love, i have no love for it -


I never ate cheese before either ..or lobster because it look like a giant mutant cockroach


get over it funch, grow up, enjoy the finer taste in life. bigsmile

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Sun 10/26/08 08:48 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Sun 10/26/08 08:56 PM




funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





well "Bushidobillyclub" ..you supposedly took a math test the other day ..math is not about claiming belief as truth it's about facts ..and that is what I consider as proof

OK, so math can prove things, ok we are getting somewhere. Is math the only way to prove things?


well in fact ...yes ...couldn't everything in reality be calculated mathematically to an absolute ..I'm surprise since you just took a math test you didn't know that ....

You did not answer my question. Is math the only way to prove things?

No other ways? reason? observation? Math can model more things than you can shake a stick at. We can model universes where a big bang never occurred . . . that doesn't make it true. The math is essential.

Again what proves things? What is proof for you? What would it take to reasonable prove a theory such as the big bang?

What about germ theory? What about the theory of gravity?

or dare I say it the "E" word?

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Sun 10/26/08 08:59 PM





funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





well "Bushidobillyclub" ..you supposedly took a math test the other day ..math is not about claiming belief as truth it's about facts ..and that is what I consider as proof

OK, so math can prove things, ok we are getting somewhere. Is math the only way to prove things?


well in fact ...yes ...couldn't everything in reality be calculated mathematically to an absolute ..I'm surprise since you just took a math test you didn't know that ....

You did not answer my question. Is math the only way to prove things?

No other ways? reason? observation? Math can model more things than you can shake a stick at. We can model universes where a big bang never occurred . . . that doesn't make it true. The math is essential.

Again what proves things? What is proof for you? What would it take to reasonably prove a theory such as the big bang?

What about germ theory? What about the theory of gravity?

or dare I say it the "E" word?


are you looking for human proof or "funch proofs"

there's a big difference! - :tongue:

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Sun 10/26/08 09:08 PM
Edited by tribo on Sun 10/26/08 09:15 PM
funch said:

"Tribo" that's what I mean you form an emotional attachment but an emotional attachment takes time which means you have the time to choose if you want that attachment ..that's the same thing as building up an addiction

tribo:

so you've gone from - craving, to duty, and now addiction? funch it's an emotion no more no less, prove to me by definition it is concidered by anyone else but you or those with like minds as yours that is other than i state - copy and paste if you like -

craving
duty
addiction

those are things that may be "connected" with love but are not ""love""!!


that's where you keep getting screwed up in your debates - you keep talking of things that surround or are attached to what you mean to say or state, instead of staying on target. it's like if we talked of diamond's you would argue about the facects or the color or the shape or the weight instead of the diamond itself - the core article of the debate. thats why it keeps going and going and going - :tongue: waving

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Sun 10/26/08 09:18 PM
It's like your core question:

has the "big bang theory" become a religious belief?

in a nut shell - no it has not!! end of discussion - :tongue:

Krimsa's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:21 AM






funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





well "Bushidobillyclub" ..you supposedly took a math test the other day ..math is not about claiming belief as truth it's about facts ..and that is what I consider as proof

OK, so math can prove things, ok we are getting somewhere. Is math the only way to prove things?


well in fact ...yes ...couldn't everything in reality be calculated mathematically to an absolute ..I'm surprise since you just took a math test you didn't know that ....

You did not answer my question. Is math the only way to prove things?

No other ways? reason? observation? Math can model more things than you can shake a stick at. We can model universes where a big bang never occurred . . . that doesn't make it true. The math is essential.

Again what proves things? What is proof for you? What would it take to reasonably prove a theory such as the big bang?

What about germ theory? What about the theory of gravity?

or dare I say it the "E" word?


are you looking for human proof or "funch proofs"

there's a big difference! - :tongue:


Truly. frustrated laugh

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Mon 10/27/08 06:30 AM
well "Skyhook" a Pantheist supposely worship a God or themselves as God...those that don't are not Pantheists
Thank you for giving me your definition of pantheist. My definition is different.

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Mon 10/27/08 06:34 AM

well "Skyhook" a Pantheist supposely worship a God or themselves as God...those that don't are not Pantheists
Thank you for giving me your definition of pantheist. My definition is different.


laugh laugh Now why couldnt I have thought to handle it in that manner. happy

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Mon 10/27/08 06:39 AM


well "Skyhook" a Pantheist supposely worship a God or themselves as God...those that don't are not Pantheists
Thank you for giving me your definition of pantheist. My definition is different.


laugh laugh Now why couldnt I have thought to handle it in that manner. happy


because Sky's a nice guy and your a "viperous ole witch" tongue2

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Mon 10/27/08 06:43 AM
True. You got me there. Seek and destroy. laugh

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Mon 10/27/08 06:45 AM
Edited by tribo on Mon 10/27/08 06:48 AM

True. You got me there. Seek and destroy. laugh



INCOMING!!!! [krim projectile] scared

you should dress up as the "krim" reaper for holloween/all hallows eve/all souls day - laugh

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Mon 10/27/08 06:51 AM
Don't forget funches law

Paragraph 1:

funches is always right

Paragraph 2:

Should funches for some reason or other not be right, paragraph 1 applies automatically.

tongue2 waving

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Mon 10/27/08 06:52 AM
well "Skyhook" a Pantheist supposely worship a God or themselves as God...those that don't are not Pantheists
Thank you for giving me your definition of pantheist. My definition is different.
laugh laugh Now why couldnt I have thought to handle it in that manner. happy
Oh I have no illusions that it is possible to "handle it" at all - other than by just walking away from it. I'm just poking at it to see it jump. :wink:

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Mon 10/27/08 06:53 AM

Don't forget funches law

Paragraph 1:

funches is always right

Paragraph 2:

Should funches for some reason or other not be right, paragraph 1 applies automatically.

tongue2 waving


hi I, took note of that on the other post, if you do it on everyone maybe that will save some nubies from wasting there time - laugh

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