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your definition of a Pantheist is not different ...because if it is you wouldn't be describing a Pantheist ...   yes...Skyhook"....it's the same as my definition ..Pantheist worship the anarchical version of their previous or childhood god and/or worship themselves as God |
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Okay never mind funch, carry on.  "Krimsa" the site has parameters the moderators have their parameters and you wish to create more parameters ...seems like you have a control issue going on there my friend So now you are simply trying to draw me back into the "debate" after I clearly expressed my desire to bow out of this? By parameters Funch I am referring to certain debate constrictions. In fact all that I would request of you is that you READ what I or anyone else is actually trying to say before responding. So far, I have yet to see this occur. This is the reason I choose to no longer discuss either the OP or the Deist representation in Congress. "Krimsa" that you wanted to discuss the deist representation in Congress in the first place was you going off topic and not keeping within the parameters ... sometimes the debate goes off topic which could lead to new concepts to enhance the discussion ...your suggestion about setting more parameters that have already been set by the moderators will just only further restrict the flow of knowledge That is an inaccurate account of what actually occurred. The entire Deist representation in Congress debate was initially brought in because of your argument over why in fact it says "In God We Trust" on American currency. Anyone can go back and see that written in black and white Funch. Once again, incorrect. |
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your definition of a Pantheist is not different ...because if it is you wouldn't be describing a Pantheist ... |
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I think this thread could be answered by showing someone who believes this . . .
I mean why not? People believe a lot of stuff that is rubbish in my mind. I think it would be great to have someone really take this argument and run with it. Id be like soooooo, you think the big bang is something to be worshiped? Do you think that if you pray hard enough to the big bang then you will get a pay raise? What about penance? Do you have to toss cash into micro black holes as a tithe? Is it necessary Every year to celebrate the big bangs birth day? What would it mean to worship something like a singularity? |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Oh funches, on that note, the Big Bang also doesn't state that you will go to hell if you dont believe in it. Nor will a black hole open in your kitchen and swallow you up.
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Okay never mind funch, carry on. "Krimsa" the site has parameters the moderators have their parameters and you wish to create more parameters ...seems like you have a control issue going on there my friend So now you are simply trying to draw me back into the "debate" after I clearly expressed my desire to bow out of this? By parameters Funch I am referring to certain debate constrictions. In fact all that I would request of you is that you READ what I or anyone else is actually trying to say before responding. So far, I have yet to see this occur. This is the reason I choose to no longer discuss either the OP or the Deist representation in Congress. "Krimsa" that you wanted to discuss the deist representation in Congress in the first place was you going off topic and not keeping within the parameters ... sometimes the debate goes off topic which could lead to new concepts to enhance the discussion ...your suggestion about setting more parameters that have already been set by the moderators will just only further restrict the flow of knowledge That is an inaccurate account of what actually occurred. The entire Deist representation in Congress debate was initially brought in because of your argument over why in fact it says "In God We Trust" on American currency. Anyone can go back and see that written in black and white Funch. Once again, incorrect. I said they can call themselves deists or pantheist but they were still under the influence of the christian god ...you never said where they got their concept of god from and I said it was from christianity ...that is why you "Krisma" and Thomas jefferson celebrate christmas ..because of the biblical god not because of Rah or Allah but because of Yahweh |
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your definition of a Pantheist is not different ...because if it is you wouldn't be describing a Pantheist ... well "Skyhook" actually I was waiting on you to pop back into reality ...because you know you agree with my definition of pantheism ...you really don't have much choice |
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I think this thread could be answered by showing someone who believes this . . . I mean why not? People believe a lot of stuff that is rubbish in my mind. I think it would be great to have someone really take this argument and run with it. Id be like soooooo, you think the big bang is something to be worshiped? Do you think that if you pray hard enough to the big bang then you will get a pay raise? What about penance? Do you have to toss cash into micro black holes as a tithe? Is it necessary Every year to celebrate the big bangs birth day? What would it mean to worship something like a singularity? once again "Bushidobillyclub" you are off the concept of the original post ...I said that people treat the "One Singularity as a substitute for god in order to replace the one they had before they turned to science...not that they pray to it but to make then content |
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Sky you know you agree just admit it now!
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Oh funches, on that note, the Big Bang also doesn't state that you will go to hell if you dont believe in it. Nor will a black hole open in your kitchen and swallow you up. "Krisma" that's the point I'm trying to make...people fed up withh the threats of hell or whatever tend to splinter from the religion ..some turn to deist aka new age some wash their hands of all of it and turn to science...but because of their sunday school programming they need a god for contentment and the "One Singularity" of the big bang supplies that god for them |
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Sky you know you agree just admit it now! forget it "Krisma" ...because 'Skyhook" always do this once he is prove wrong |
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Okay never mind funch, carry on. "Krimsa" the site has parameters the moderators have their parameters and you wish to create more parameters ...seems like you have a control issue going on there my friend So now you are simply trying to draw me back into the "debate" after I clearly expressed my desire to bow out of this? By parameters Funch I am referring to certain debate constrictions. In fact all that I would request of you is that you READ what I or anyone else is actually trying to say before responding. So far, I have yet to see this occur. This is the reason I choose to no longer discuss either the OP or the Deist representation in Congress. "Krimsa" that you wanted to discuss the deist representation in Congress in the first place was you going off topic and not keeping within the parameters ... sometimes the debate goes off topic which could lead to new concepts to enhance the discussion ...your suggestion about setting more parameters that have already been set by the moderators will just only further restrict the flow of knowledge That is an inaccurate account of what actually occurred. The entire Deist representation in Congress debate was initially brought in because of your argument over why in fact it says "In God We Trust" on American currency. Anyone can go back and see that written in black and white Funch. Once again, incorrect. I said they can call themselves deists or pantheist but they were still under the influence of the christian god ...you never said where they got their concept of god from and I said it was from christianity ...that is why you "Krisma" and Thomas jefferson celebrate christmas ..because of the biblical god not because of Rah or Allah but because of Yahweh But they did not call themselves Christians, nor Pantheists, they called themselves Deists which are not Christians or Pantheists. If you scroll back I explained to you the origins of Yule and that Christmas is in fact a Pagan holiday that was absorbed and adopted by the Christians back in the 4th century. Thomas Jefferson and I are both not Christians yet we both might have chosen to celebrate Christmas or Yule or both for the same reasons. Its fun and festive. |
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Oh funches, on that note, the Big Bang also doesn't state that you will go to hell if you dont believe in it. Nor will a black hole open in your kitchen and swallow you up. "Krisma" that's the point I'm trying to make...people fed up withh the threats of hell or whatever tend to splinter from the religion ..some turn to deist aka new age some wash their hands of all of it and turn to science...but because of their sunday school programming they need a god for contentment and the "One Singularity" of the big bang supplies that god for them That statement you keep making is ridiculous. Primarily because it implies that the concept of a God (and presumably a Goddess) can ONLY be Christian in origin. Thats ridiculous. Christianity is around 2000 years old. Paganism has existed since the Neolithic. |
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Okay never mind funch, carry on. "Krimsa" the site has parameters the moderators have their parameters and you wish to create more parameters ...seems like you have a control issue going on there my friend So now you are simply trying to draw me back into the "debate" after I clearly expressed my desire to bow out of this? By parameters Funch I am referring to certain debate constrictions. In fact all that I would request of you is that you READ what I or anyone else is actually trying to say before responding. So far, I have yet to see this occur. This is the reason I choose to no longer discuss either the OP or the Deist representation in Congress. "Krimsa" that you wanted to discuss the deist representation in Congress in the first place was you going off topic and not keeping within the parameters ... sometimes the debate goes off topic which could lead to new concepts to enhance the discussion ...your suggestion about setting more parameters that have already been set by the moderators will just only further restrict the flow of knowledge That is an inaccurate account of what actually occurred. The entire Deist representation in Congress debate was initially brought in because of your argument over why in fact it says "In God We Trust" on American currency. Anyone can go back and see that written in black and white Funch. Once again, incorrect. I said they can call themselves deists or pantheist but they were still under the influence of the christian god ...you never said where they got their concept of god from and I said it was from christianity ...that is why you "Krisma" and Thomas jefferson celebrate christmas ..because of the biblical god not because of Rah or Allah but because of Yahweh But they did not call themselves Christians, nor Pantheists, they called themselves Deists which are not Christians or Pantheists. If you scroll back I explained to you the origins of Yule and that Christmas is in fact a Pagan holiday that was absorbed and adopted by the Christians back in the 4th century. Thomas Jefferson and I are both not Christians yet we both might have chosen to celebrate Christmas or Yule or both for the same reasons. Its fun and festive. "Krimsa" and "Einstein" called himself a pacifist but yet created the equation for the government to create a device that could destroy the world which means just because someone claims to be something you have to watch their actions to see someone close to the person's true self so Jefferson can call himself a deist as he celebrate christmas and the birth of Jesus which links Jefferson to the bilical god yahweh |
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Oh funches, on that note, the Big Bang also doesn't state that you will go to hell if you dont believe in it. Nor will a black hole open in your kitchen and swallow you up. "Krisma" that's the point I'm trying to make...people fed up withh the threats of hell or whatever tend to splinter from the religion ..some turn to deist aka new age some wash their hands of all of it and turn to science...but because of their sunday school programming they need a god for contentment and the "One Singularity" of the big bang supplies that god for them That statement you keep making is ridiculous. Primarily because it implies that the concept of a God (and presumably a Goddess) can ONLY be Christian in origin. Thats ridiculous. Christianity is around 2000 years old. Paganism has existed since the Neolithic. again "Krismas" this founding fathers had roots that had links to the church of england ..which links to judeo-christianity |
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Okay never mind funch, carry on. "Krimsa" the site has parameters the moderators have their parameters and you wish to create more parameters ...seems like you have a control issue going on there my friend So now you are simply trying to draw me back into the "debate" after I clearly expressed my desire to bow out of this? By parameters Funch I am referring to certain debate constrictions. In fact all that I would request of you is that you READ what I or anyone else is actually trying to say before responding. So far, I have yet to see this occur. This is the reason I choose to no longer discuss either the OP or the Deist representation in Congress. "Krimsa" that you wanted to discuss the deist representation in Congress in the first place was you going off topic and not keeping within the parameters ... sometimes the debate goes off topic which could lead to new concepts to enhance the discussion ...your suggestion about setting more parameters that have already been set by the moderators will just only further restrict the flow of knowledge That is an inaccurate account of what actually occurred. The entire Deist representation in Congress debate was initially brought in because of your argument over why in fact it says "In God We Trust" on American currency. Anyone can go back and see that written in black and white Funch. Once again, incorrect. I said they can call themselves deists or pantheist but they were still under the influence of the christian god ...you never said where they got their concept of god from and I said it was from christianity ...that is why you "Krisma" and Thomas jefferson celebrate christmas ..because of the biblical god not because of Rah or Allah but because of Yahweh But they did not call themselves Christians, nor Pantheists, they called themselves Deists which are not Christians or Pantheists. If you scroll back I explained to you the origins of Yule and that Christmas is in fact a Pagan holiday that was absorbed and adopted by the Christians back in the 4th century. Thomas Jefferson and I are both not Christians yet we both might have chosen to celebrate Christmas or Yule or both for the same reasons. Its fun and festive. "Krimsa" and "Einstein" called himself a pacifist but yet created the equation for the government to create a device that could destroy the world which means just because someone claims to be something you have to watch their actions to see someone close to the person's true self so Jefferson can call himself a deist as he celebrate christmas and the birth of Jesus which links Jefferson to the bilical god yahweh Except that Einstein did not necessarily know what would become of his theory. Or all of the applications it could potentially be used for. Are you suggesting that we would have been better off without Albert Einstein's existence? I did watch Jefferson's actions and his words as written on both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and that is what I am basing my statment that he was not a Christian on. Celebrating Christmas/Yule does not automatically link someone with anything. That is a wild and baseless assertion on your part. |
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Edited by
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Oh funches, on that note, the Big Bang also doesn't state that you will go to hell if you dont believe in it. Nor will a black hole open in your kitchen and swallow you up. "Krisma" that's the point I'm trying to make...people fed up withh the threats of hell or whatever tend to splinter from the religion ..some turn to deist aka new age some wash their hands of all of it and turn to science...but because of their sunday school programming they need a god for contentment and the "One Singularity" of the big bang supplies that god for them That statement you keep making is ridiculous. Primarily because it implies that the concept of a God (and presumably a Goddess) can ONLY be Christian in origin. Thats ridiculous. Christianity is around 2000 years old. Paganism has existed since the Neolithic. again "Krismas" this founding fathers had roots that had links to the church of england ..which links to judeo-christianity As noted, we understand that 6 were Deists. It just so happens that those 6 were the higher profile members of Congress. Some of them were Christians also. I have never argued that point. They were colonists Funches. |
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Sky you know you agree just admit it now! Ok! Ok! I can't handle the guilt any more! I admit it! I'm guilty! I did it ..... with the lead pipe ..... in the kitchen! |
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Funches WHY did they DEMAND a SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE???? WHY!!!!!!!!!!!! Because you are nuts and it was bound to be trouble. The church is a menace in that capacity. They weren't having it. Who can blame them???
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Except that Einstein did not necessarily know what would become of his theory. Or all of the applications it could potentially be used for. Are you suggesting that we would have been better off without Albert Einstein's existence? I'm saying that "Einstein" called himself a pacifist and clearly wasn't ...also as for "Einstein" not realizing what he was creating...then that would make him an idiot savant not a genius I did watch Jefferson's actions and his words as written on both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and that is what I am basing my statment that he was not a Christian on. you keep harping on Jefferson words as I harp on his actions ...the man was celebrating the birth of christ ... Celebrating Christmas/Yule does not automatically link someone with anything. That is a wild and baseless assertion on your part. so tell me "Krimsa" besides christmas what other religious hoilday from other faiths do you and jefferson celebrate besides the christmas linked to christianity |
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