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Well not exactly because I am not Christian (probably no surprise to anyone there) yet I still celebrate Christmas because it is fun and traditional. Jefferson might have felt the same way. Maybe he shared some lovin with his slaves under the mistletoe.  "Krimsa"...if you are celebrating Christmas because you think it's fun ..then your fun at that point in time has been influence as a direct result of the birth of christ and the bibical god if you get the day off from work it's because of the influences generated from the birth of christ and the bibilical god so if Jefferson the deist is celebrating Christmas then he is acknowledging the birth of christ and the biblical God |
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38) Love with out wisdom is carnal, Wisdom with out love is empty, Wisdom with love is complete and lasting love. Separately no union will hold together. wisdom would be inclusive of logic and rationale'i feel for you if your going to base a relationship on logic alone and think it will ever work - or do plan on marrying or living with a VULCAN? would any offspring then be Funchans or Vulches? good luck with that funch. "Tribo"..if Love is supposely an emotion and all emotions are irrational then to equate wisdom to irrationality is not wise ..it's like saying you used wisdom to make an irrational decision ...you are therefore displaying a lack of wisdom wisdom, logic, rationale' says they exist - whether you concider them irrational or not makes no diff funch, try getting along without them or having a realationship without them of any kind business or otherwise. watching "crappy" movies is irrational - yet you do it - 
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38) Love with out wisdom is carnal, Wisdom with out love is empty, Wisdom with love is complete and lasting love. Separately no union will hold together. wisdom would be inclusive of logic and rationale'i feel for you if your going to base a relationship on logic alone and think it will ever work - or do plan on marrying or living with a VULCAN? would any offspring then be Funchans or Vulches? good luck with that funch. "Tribo"..if Love is supposely an emotion and all emotions are irrational then to equate wisdom to irrationality is not wise ..it's like saying you used wisdom to make an irrational decision ...you are therefore displaying a lack of wisdom wisdom, logic, rationale' says they exist - whether you concider them irrational or not makes no diff funch, try getting along without them or having a realationship without them of any kind business or otherwise. watching "crappy" movies is irrational - yet you do it - watching crappy movies is something to be seen not imagined in one's mind like Love is ....but people will use the concept of Love to justify their crappy decisons .. but either way love is a decision |
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Well not exactly because I am not Christian (probably no surprise to anyone there) yet I still celebrate Christmas because it is fun and traditional. Jefferson might have felt the same way. Maybe he shared some lovin with his slaves under the mistletoe. "Krimsa"...if you are celebrating Christmas because you think it's fun ..then your fun at that point in time has been influence as a direct result of the birth of christ and the bibical god if you get the day off from work it's because of the influences generated from the birth of christ and the bibilical god so if Jefferson the deist is celebrating Christmas then he is acknowledging the birth of christ and the biblical God No. In fact I would be celebrating Christmas because I enjoy the "spirit of giving" and I like getting gifts for friends and family and decorating my house and putting up lights. I also celebrate Yule. The only reason the Christians have "Christmas" as a designated holiday is because they copped it from the Pagans and their already scheduled programming of Yule. You still have failed to show an accurate comparison between Christianity and Deism. Any day now. Unless you are simply dodging the issue which is the sense Im getting now funch. |
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funches
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Sun 10/26/08 01:43 PM
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Well not exactly because I am not Christian (probably no surprise to anyone there) yet I still celebrate Christmas because it is fun and traditional. Jefferson might have felt the same way. Maybe he shared some lovin with his slaves under the mistletoe. "Krimsa"...if you are celebrating Christmas because you think it's fun ..then your fun at that point in time has been influence as a direct result of the birth of christ and the bibical god if you get the day off from work it's because of the influences generated from the birth of christ and the bibilical god so if Jefferson the deist is celebrating Christmas then he is acknowledging the birth of christ and the biblical God No. In fact I would be celebrating Christmas because I enjoy the "spirit of giving" and I like getting gifts for friends and family and decorating my house and putting up lights. I also celebrate Yule. The only reason the Christians have "Christmas" as a designated holiday is because they copped it from the Pagans and their already scheduled programming of Yule. You still have failed to show an accurate comparison between Christianity and Deism. Any day now. Unless you are simply dodging the issue which is the sense Im getting now funch. so Krisma" you enjoy the "spirt" of giving...sounds christian to me as for the comparison of deist to christian ..I just did that with Jefferson ....deists just like pantheists and new age just get tire of the rules set down by a God ...but they never leave the God just the religion but anyway the subject is about your blind faith in the big band theory |
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38) Love with out wisdom is carnal, Wisdom with out love is empty, Wisdom with love is complete and lasting love. Separately no union will hold together. wisdom would be inclusive of logic and rationale'i feel for you if your going to base a relationship on logic alone and think it will ever work - or do plan on marrying or living with a VULCAN? would any offspring then be Funchans or Vulches? good luck with that funch. "Tribo"..if Love is supposely an emotion and all emotions are irrational then to equate wisdom to irrationality is not wise ..it's like saying you used wisdom to make an irrational decision ...you are therefore displaying a lack of wisdom wisdom, logic, rationale' says they exist - whether you concider them irrational or not makes no diff funch, try getting along without them or having a realationship without them of any kind business or otherwise. watching "crappy" movies is irrational - yet you do it - watching crappy movies is something to be seen not imagined in one's mind like Love is ....but people will use the concept of Love to justify their crappy decisons .. but either way love is a decision no, love is an emotion not a decision - you can make the decision to love or not to love - but it remains a emotion. not bound by the laws of mathematics or logic. |
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Well not exactly because I am not Christian (probably no surprise to anyone there) yet I still celebrate Christmas because it is fun and traditional. Jefferson might have felt the same way. Maybe he shared some lovin with his slaves under the mistletoe. "Krimsa"...if you are celebrating Christmas because you think it's fun ..then your fun at that point in time has been influence as a direct result of the birth of christ and the bibical god if you get the day off from work it's because of the influences generated from the birth of christ and the bibilical god so if Jefferson the deist is celebrating Christmas then he is acknowledging the birth of christ and the biblical God No. In fact I would be celebrating Christmas because I enjoy the "spirit of giving" and I like getting gifts for friends and family and decorating my house and putting up lights. I also celebrate Yule. The only reason the Christians have "Christmas" as a designated holiday is because they copped it from the Pagans and their already scheduled programming of Yule. You still have failed to show an accurate comparison between Christianity and Deism. Any day now. Unless you are simply dodging the issue which is the sense Im getting now funch. so Krisma" you enjoy the "spirt" of giving...sounds christian to me as for the comparison of deist to christian ..I just did that with Jefferson ....deists just like pantheists and new age just get tire of the rules set down by a God ...but they never leave the God just the religion but anyway the subject is about your blind faith in the big band theory Since when is the "spirit of giving" copyrighted by the Christians?? Besides, Im clearly not Christian and you have yet to prove Jefferson was either. However if you want to close the book on that debate, I dont blame you. You do realize the Pagans had several Gods/Goddesses right?  Well as far as The Big Bang or the Theory of Evolution being akin to religious dogma or faith based beliefs, I would say nay. |
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no, love is an emotion not a decision - you can make the decision to love or not to love - but it remains a emotion. not bound by the laws of mathematics or logic. "Tribo" love is bound by "want" and/or "need" that's why it's not an emotion..think of it as a craving ...people wish to have a little uncontrollable mystery or duty to dictate their life and this is what the concept of love fullfills ... |
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Since when is the "spirit of giving" copyrighted by the Christians?? "Krimas"..it was you yourself that express that the "spirt" of giving was what you like to do when you celebrate Christmas maybe even making subconscious reference to the "Holy Spirit" ...so your "spirit of giving at that point in time relates to the birth of christ...aka christian ...in fact your name "Krisma" sounds Khristmas-ly Besides, Im clearly not Christian and you have yet to prove Jefferson was either. However if you want to close the book on that debate, I dont blame you. I close that debate because Jeffererson motive is only a question that Thomas Jefferson himself can answer... all we are able to do are make assumptions as to his actual frame of thought You do realize the Pagans had several Gods/Goddesses right? according to the trinity so do the christians Well as far as The Big Bang or the Theory of Evolution being akin to religious dogma or faith based beliefs, I would say nay. I would agree if that pesty word "Theory" wasn't stuck on the end of "The Big Bang" ..you seem to keep forgetting that |
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Since when is the "spirit of giving" copyrighted by the Christians?? "Krimas"..it was you yourself that express that the "spirt" of giving was what you like to do when you celebrate Christmas maybe even making subconscious reference to the "Holy Spirit" ...so your "spirit of giving at that point in time relates to the birth of christ...aka christian ...in fact your name "Krisma" sounds Khristmas-ly Besides, Im clearly not Christian and you have yet to prove Jefferson was either. However if you want to close the book on that debate, I dont blame you. I close that debate because Jeffererson motive is only a question that Thomas Jefferson himself can answer... all we are able to do are make assumptions as to his actual frame of thought You do realize the Pagans had several Gods/Goddesses right? according to the trinity so do the christians Well as far as The Big Bang or the Theory of Evolution being akin to religious dogma or faith based beliefs, I would say nay. I would agree if that pesty word "Theory" wasn't stuck on the end of "The Big Bang" ..you seem to keep forgetting that Nope. In fact, here is a definition for the word "spirit" and just so you know, traditional activities during Yule are decorating the Yule tree, exchanging gifts, storytelling, making wreaths, throwing holiday parties, sending greetings. Spirit: A being inhabiting or embodying a particular place, object, or natural phenomenon. c. A fairy or sprite. Not really seeing the link with Christianity yet but you are able to keep going if you want. Krimsa is actually a Peruvian name in origination and is also Pagan I agree, we simply can not re-animate Thomas Jefferson and bug him about his religious affiliations at the time that he was writing the Declaration and the Constitution. He would probably kick our asses anyway. So are you trying to say that Christians are Pagans because they have a triple god? Well okay if you say so. They probably didnt need to kill so many of us in that case. Im not sure I have forgotten anything? You just make comments I can neither make heads or tales of. |
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no, love is an emotion not a decision - you can make the decision to love or not to love - but it remains a emotion. not bound by the laws of mathematics or logic. "Tribo" love is bound by "want" and/or "need" that's why it's not an emotion..think of it as a craving ...people wish to have a little uncontrollable mystery or duty to dictate their life and this is what the concept of love fullfills ... A "CRAVING"? are you using a Funch and Wagnell's dictionary again my friend?  Are you equating sex as love? I'm talking of one of our "emotions" like fear or envy or the others - they are emotions by definition, which include their synonomous meanings also. A "craving" by normal definition would be an intense,urgent,or "abnormal, desire or longing - is that what you really think "love" is? some type of "abnormal" desire? ok i give up. think what you want, byeeeeeeeeeeee |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it.
Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum.
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. i agree Krim, but to think that love is an abormal craving is nonsense - what of the love of a parent for a child? or love for or of a friend? or even an animal? by definition and life itself it is an emotion, no more no less. i think funch must have picked the craving thing up from his freinds "i gotta craving for love" and took it to mean sex, like he'd say "i gotta craving for pizza" same diff. sorry funch but thats what it sounds like. to me. |
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Krimsa
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. i agree Krim, but to think that love is an abormal craving is nonsense - what of the love of a parent for a child? or love for or of a friend? or even an animal? by definition and life itself it is an emotion, no more no less. i think funch must have picked the craving thing up from his freinds "i gotta craving for love" and took it to mean sex, like he'd say "i gotta craving for pizza" same diff. sorry funch but thats what it sounds like. to me. Yeah I dont pretend to understand what Funches is attempting to impart. I think I would say the actual physical act of intercourse could be designated as a "craving" yes of course. The emotion of love is something different. For one thing, we could debate here until the cows came home as to what "love" meant to each one of us. Its subjective and as you mentioned there are all types of love, romantic and parental or even spiritual "Sexual Magick" and "sexual healing" (yes its not just a Marvin Gaye song) yet he was describing it.
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no, love is an emotion not a decision - you can make the decision to love or not to love - but it remains a emotion. not bound by the laws of mathematics or logic. "Tribo" love is bound by "want" and/or "need" that's why it's not an emotion..think of it as a craving ...people wish to have a little uncontrollable mystery or duty to dictate their life and this is what the concept of love fullfills ... A "CRAVING"? are you using a Funch and Wagnell's dictionary again my friend? Are you equating sex as love? I'm talking of one of our "emotions" like fear or envy or the others - they are emotions by definition, which include their synonomous meanings also. A "craving" by normal definition would be an intense,urgent,or "abnormal, desire or longing - is that what you really think "love" is? some type of "abnormal" desire? ok i give up. think what you want, byeeeeeeeeeeee "Tribo" I'm not sure how you brought sex into the equation ..but then again don't people say they "love" sex emotions are something that happens at the spur of the moment and disipates for example like anger...you can stay angry but then it becomes a choice ....love is described as supposely lasting longer like an unfullfilled craving but in the long run to stay in love you have to make the choice to do so to say that love is something that happens and then lasts uncontrollably.. sounds more like a chemical imbalance that is making you emotional |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. in fact isn't religion filled with sex ..even God had sex with Mary....but anyway sex is no mystery ..the brain has a running program to make you crave sex for different reasons..it pleasures the senses you get some much needed excerise time in and without it the human race would have died out on the first day anyway now people are using the term making love so those that refer to sex like that are equating sex with love which means love is a choice they are making ... |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. i agree Krim, but to think that love is an abormal craving is nonsense - what of the love of a parent for a child? or love for or of a friend? or even an animal? by definition and life itself it is an emotion, no more no less. i think funch must have picked the craving thing up from his freinds "i gotta craving for love" and took it to mean sex, like he'd say "i gotta craving for pizza" same diff. sorry funch but thats what it sounds like. to me. "Tribo" as I say in the description of love it can also be a duty ...which explains the love for a child as for cravings I never ate a pizza or drank a cup of coffee in my life |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. in fact isn't religion filled with sex ..even God had sex with Mary....but anyway sex is no mystery ..the brain has a running program to make you crave sex for different reasons..it pleasures the senses you get some much needed excerise time in and without it the human race would have died out on the first day anyway now people are using the term making love so those that refer to sex like that are equating sex with love which means love is a choice they are making ... God had sex with Mary??? Thats an awfully Pagan conceptualization Funches. Much the way Zeus would take the form of a swan in order to trick a human female into sex. He did this routinely taking the forms of various animals. I think the father of JC was more than likely a Roman centurion who attacked Mary. |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. in fact isn't religion filled with sex ..even God had sex with Mary....but anyway sex is no mystery ..the brain has a running program to make you crave sex for different reasons..it pleasures the senses you get some much needed excerise time in and without it the human race would have died out on the first day anyway now people are using the term making love so those that refer to sex like that are equating sex with love which means love is a choice they are making ... God had sex with Mary??? Thats an awfully Pagan conceptualization Funches. Much the way Zeus would take the form of a swan in order to trick a human female into sex. He did this routinely taking the forms of various animals. I think the father of JC was more than likely a Roman centurion who attacked Mary. ok "Krimsa" instead of saying God had sex with Mary what if I say that God filled Mary with the holy spirit...but I'm not sure if he attacked her ...I even remember it being mention that she considered her womb as a place to birth Gods |
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Actually its pretty intensely debated what the hell "sex" is exactly and the function it plays in our lives. If its simply a biological drive in all mammals or something much more complicated. I tend to believe that human sexuality is EXTREAMELY involved because it is a physiological need and desire that is also bound up in external forces and society's conventions which can potentially add confusion to it. Thats a thread in itself and NOT for the religion forum. in fact isn't religion filled with sex ..even God had sex with Mary....but anyway sex is no mystery ..the brain has a running program to make you crave sex for different reasons..it pleasures the senses you get some much needed excerise time in and without it the human race would have died out on the first day anyway now people are using the term making love so those that refer to sex like that are equating sex with love which means love is a choice they are making ... God had sex with Mary??? Thats an awfully Pagan conceptualization Funches. Much the way Zeus would take the form of a swan in order to trick a human female into sex. He did this routinely taking the forms of various animals. I think the father of JC was more than likely a Roman centurion who attacked Mary. ok "Krimsa" instead of saying God had sex with Mary what if I say that God filled Mary with the holy spirit...but I'm not sure if he attacked her ...I even remember it being mention that she considered her womb as a place to birth Gods Well you say tomato....
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