There is also the pantheistic option of "dump the God and the religion and the materialism, but keep the spirituality"

and yet it remains a theory and not fact


and yet "in God we trust" is engraved or printed on all the USA currency


it's simple "Krisma" to claim science theory as being truth is the same as claiming a religious belief as being truth


that also applies to being Jewish

Pantheists tend to dump the religion and worship the Anarchical version of the God they dumped

are you meaning "religion" or "belief" system?

theres not much difference ..give or take a god or two

so are you saying then that an atheist belief system is a religion?

yes if the atheist includes a God

by "include" do you mean - stating that his belief is there is no "god"?

Well, there's no way to refute a generalization like that except to point out that it's a generalization. But there are pantheists who do not "worship" anything at all.

including a God doesn't equate to no God

well "Skyhook" since religious torturing is somewhat obsolete you can't force a panthist to worship just like you can't force a christian to worship Jesus ...but it tends to defeat the purpose of claiming to be a pantheist or a christian

hey SKY, how you doing?

Doin' pretty good, Tribo. Getting a little "over it" with the Billy Goat Gruff game here. One more and I think I'm done. I see you had your fill in the other one.

Well, you'll have to pardon me for not believing that you know all about the purposes of every pantheist.

It all started millions of years ago,when Galactic Lord Xenu rounded up citizens from many planets under the guise of tax inspections and had them frozen and flown to Earth in spaceships that looked like modern airplanes except with rocket engines.Then these aliens were deposited in the volcanoes of Hawaii, and Xenu dropped a nuclear bomb on them and killed them all.He then had these alien souls gathered with electromagnetic devices and had them brainwashed to believe in God,Satan,Buddha,Jesus,etc.and then released the alien souls which wandered the earth in disembodied form until humans evolved physical bodies these wandering thetans could possess. Today these disembodied alien souls (called body thetans)are bonded to humans electromagnetic aura, causing all of our psychological problems and religions.

Funches.

It doesnt matter that the Theory of Evolution is a theory. Im not sure that is relevant. Many people consider it a fact for all intensive purposes or take the postilion that until something better comes along, that is their personal explanation for not only the origin of man, but all living organisms.

Many of the founding fathers were in fact Deists. Show me on any piece of American currency where it says "In the biblical God we Trust." Taken from the Treaty of Tripoli.June 7, 1797 Article 11

"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

As far as I know, the only people who claim the Theory of Evolution as fact are those that choose to accept it as fact. I am one of those people. That still does not make it comparable to a religious belief. You will need to explain it to me in another way I imagine.

I dont understand your remark "that also applies to being Jewish" comment.

well "Skyhook" a Pantheist supposely worship a God or themselves as God...those that don't are not Pantheists ...so for you to say that It's a generalization ...of course it's a generalization.. that's why they called themselves Pantheists to generalize their belief

everyone that was effected by the actions of this perpetrator can be included in a class action lawsuit against Galactic Lord Xenu for causing undo and untold emotional distress and mental angish upon the human populas for being in direct cause for bringing the concept of religion resulting in psychological problems that permeated through-out the homo sapien species occupation of the planet Earth

well...er.. unless there is a universal statue of limitation in the amount of eons one can take a Galactic Lord to court

I actually would agree with Funches on that one. Must be a cold day in hell today.

"Krisma" if it was irrelevant that a theory is called a theory then why would they call it a theory and not fact ..and that's why it is relevant..it is label as being a theory so people don't confuse it as being fact



until something better comes along??? ...I guess that what happen with "the world is flat" senerio .. Krisma just because there is no factual answer to a solution doesn't mean you should accept the best theoretical answer as being fact



this country was founded by those of judeo-christian belief ..which means the God on the currency is referring to the bibical God aka Yahweh ..



maybe you don't remember that President Bush said that God Yahweh told him to attack Iraq that belongs to the God Allah



"Krisma" if you accept an unproven belief or theory as being fact then it amounts to a religious belief...aka truth without proof



you said that If you choose not to accept the theory of evolution there is no one to tell you that you will now burn in hell.

and to display the religious version of your concept I said that also applies to being Jewish because they don't accept the concept of there being a hell