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the sun doesn't come up
the earth turns to meet it |
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Edited by
KalamazooGuy87
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Fri 09/26/08 09:20 PM
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Believing in the study of science which means you believe that man will continue to explore and discover has absolutely no similarity to the belief that some men who wrote stories and had them edited and some rejected and some approved for a text of stories as an absolute fact. There is no similarity there sorry. Belief or agreement is not necessarily faith. I believe that the sun will come up tomorrow. How do I believe that? I have seen it happen for 44 years. Could I be wrong, possibly but not likely. This "belief" is not based on something someone wrote in a book that I am applying to my and others lives as a way of living or they are doomed to eternal burning. Faith is a little more than just believing something. Your belief that the sun will come up with be wrong one day Dragoness, that is if you believe in science =) but again your just throwing in non-sence that holds no weight in the purpose of this discussion Nonsense because you cannot debate it? As for the sun coming up or not, scientifically, not in my life time, nor my childrens, or grans or great grans, etc...... Your nonsence and little comments which to me propose that you have some sort of hatred not just toward religion but Christianity... " that some men who wrote stories" "This "belief" is not based on something someone wrote in a book t" Really Dragon how do YOU know the sun will come up? or does it come up or not have you been outside of Earth to actually SEE beyond the ozone layer the Sun? Or do you take a word because you have been taught it all of your life that this is the way it is.... Is this how we play ball here? |
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Lets assume your god exists.
Just two questions. Why doesnt he/she/it feed the starving millions in Africa? Why doesnt he/she/it make it rain in the places it needs water? |
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I never understood why people who don't believe in God feel that no one else should be allowed to believe and spend so much effort trying to debunk him
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Edited by
KalamazooGuy87
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Fri 09/26/08 09:24 PM
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Lets assume your god exists. Just two questions. Why doesnt he/she/it feed the starving millions in Africa? Why doesnt he/she/it make it rain in the places it needs water? Lets assume your being serious... 1) ask him why, im not God 2) have people prayed onto him for rain or food? Have you done such? Ask the source if you want a direct answer because if you are being serious and wanted a actual reply, i believe you wouldnt be asking me. |
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I never understood why people who don't believe in God feel that no one else should be allowed to believe and spend so much effort trying to debunk him Not all of them do, just like not all religious people try to convert the great unwashed! |
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I guess that's prolly true
I guess the fanatical ones just make so much noise that it seems so |
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HEYYYYY!!!
just like the political threads!!! haha I had an insight oh yeah back on topic... Praise the Lord |
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I never understood why people who don't believe in God feel that no one else should be allowed to believe and spend so much effort trying to debunk him Its kinda like the love-hate dilema people who used to love someone end up hating them more so then people who never liked each other. Athesists generally have a connection or had some connection with a God. A relationship went bad due to issue relating to the couple, blamed an outside source and now hate the ground religion walks on. somthing most humans commonly do =) |
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I guess that's prolly true I guess the fanatical ones just make so much noise that it seems so Empty vessel and all that huh?! |
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Lets assume your god exists. Just two questions. Why doesnt he/she/it feed the starving millions in Africa? Why doesnt he/she/it make it rain in the places it needs water? Lets assume your being serious... 1) ask him why, im not God 2) have people prayed onto him for rain or food? Have you done such? Ask the source if you want a direct answer because if you are being serious and wanted a actual reply, i believe you wouldnt be asking me. But you purport to know about god. So surely you should be asking him. Are you saying starvation is not god's fault? Do you thank god before a meal for the food on your table? If so, why?? He did not put it there. If you say "Thank the lord for this food", you are stating that he had responsibility in putting it there. Therefore, if he gives food to you, why does he withhold it from others? If you think he does not withhold it from others, then you better not thank him for the food you have. Another way to think of it is this way. You might say "Praise the lord that those 80 people survived that plane crash." But you don't blame the lord for those 100 people died in the plane crash... Believers are more than happy to praise their god during the good events, yet they never blame him for the bad. |
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get thee behind me satan
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almost like parents vs the children
The parents say someday youll understand why, but the kids doesnt want to hear it, cant, its not fair. Grows up and experiences it. Understands. This is the problem with people, they have to "experience" it to believe it, they dont really care about facts, it is experiences. Every religious person has an experience, every Athesist doesnt, and the Athesists....hopefully wont be too late. Gotta love man and thier ability to be stubborn. Argue up a storm but if these people really wanted to prove it to themselves? They would make a all out attempt at the heart to find God. Fear of actually finding him? Fear of failing in a psycologists mind is actually fear of Suceeding... =) |
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get thee behind me satan ... and who was responsible for satan and hell? Another one of god's screw ups! "Doesnt look like he doing well at all in the polls this morning, Don" "But here's the weather" |
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okay okay
take a breath you believe what you want and I'll believe what I want |
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Lets assume your god exists. Just two questions. Why doesnt he/she/it feed the starving millions in Africa? Why doesnt he/she/it make it rain in the places it needs water? Lets assume your being serious... 1) ask him why, im not God 2) have people prayed onto him for rain or food? Have you done such? Ask the source if you want a direct answer because if you are being serious and wanted a actual reply, i believe you wouldnt be asking me. But you purport to know about god. So surely you should be asking him. Are you saying starvation is not god's fault? Do you thank god before a meal for the food on your table? If so, why?? He did not put it there. If you say "Thank the lord for this food", you are stating that he had responsibility in putting it there. Therefore, if he gives food to you, why does he withhold it from others? If you think he does not withhold it from others, then you better not thank him for the food you have. Another way to think of it is this way. You might say "Praise the lord that those 80 people survived that plane crash." But you don't blame the lord for those 100 people died in the plane crash... Believers are more than happy to praise their god during the good events, yet they never blame him for the bad. You just dont know why things happen is why you ask all these question.. Why did starvation start? Could it have been due to people not relying on God anymore...? Have you noticed the increase in death, MAn-Man murder theft natural disaster due to people taking God out of thier life but yet we blame God more???? how ironic... If i take you serious -Believers are more than happy to praise their god during the good events, yet they never blame him for the bad.-- If your serious then you live a unhappy life, instead of being greatful for what you have you are unhappy with what you dont have, that is a horrible way to live, because all 180 people could have died, you dont know why it happened they way it did but in time it all makes sence.... |
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get thee behind me satan ... and who was responsible for satan and hell? Another one of god's screw ups! "Doesnt look like he doing well at all in the polls this morning, Don" "But here's the weather" So if you blame God for Satans Actions, please say that God controls your Actions as well? OR do you not make your own decisions, please subtract the hatred from your discussion |
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I never understood why people who don't believe in God feel that no one else should be allowed to believe and spend so much effort trying to debunk him First off, I don't debunk "God". I simply point out that the Bible can't be a true picture of God. I do this for humanitarian purposes because historically the 'Biblical' religions have been, and continue to be, a source of great distress for mankind in general. I might also add that when I speak of the 'Biblical' religions I'm talking about all of the religions that arose from the Mediteranean folklore. This would include Judaism, Catholicism, Protestanism, and Islam. These are all the very same religion gone awry as far as I can see. They are at each other's throats even more than they are against disbelivers. The Middle East crisis is all because of this one grossly confused religious myth. It causes people to hate each other. Not love each other like it claims. Christians are out to proselyize the entire world into Christianity. This is no small joke. Even members of the United Nations have voiced concerns about how these proselytizing religions are creating political unrest. It's more than just a personal belief system. These religions have become political monsters. Non believers are treated like heathens on the sidelines whilst we watch the religious zealots destroy OUR WORLD! We live here too! Do you think we should just sit by and keep our mouths shut whilst these religious fantatics try to convert the world to become even more hateful? What would happen if Christianity succeeded in its RELENTLESS goal of converting eveyone to Christianity? I can tell you precisely what would happen. They would then turn against each other! They ALREADY DO! Protestants and Catholics could never live side-by-side in peace. They each denounce the others as being 'true Christians'. After the Protestants murder or converted all the Catholics then what would happen. Again they'd turn on themselves. The ALREADY DO! The different denominations would have a field day with each other until there is only one demonination left standing. All in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Get real people! This is nothing short of SICK!!!! And as a non-believer in the Bible YOU GUYS are threatening to DESTROY MY PLANET!!!! I have every right to show you why your religious doctrine is utterly absurd and can't possibly be true. I do it as a HUMANITARIAN effort. Just like I'd try to erradicated physical cancern. These Mediterraneann based religions are a cancer of the Human Spirit! They serve no purpose other than to pit man against man and nation against nation! They even HATE each OTHER! 
And they are DESTROYING the world I LIVE IN! I have every right to speak out for all the innocent victims of this terrible plauge of the human spirit. |
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ummmmm I didn't mean you
but thanks for that anyway |
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ummmmm I didn't mean you but thanks for that anyway Yes I understand. 
I was just bouncing off your post because it was an issue I wanted to rant about. 
Thank you. |
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