I agree Ive been brushed off more than once because I am "too nice"but I just keep tring because there must be somone in this big old world who wants to be treated with respect

Just out of curiousity - what type of woman are you nice guys pursuing? Are you going for the "nice girls" or the "hot babes"? If you seek out women who are kind, intelligent, genuine and empathetic, you are not going to get that reaction. If you seek out women who are hot, sexy, skinny and young, you may get the brush off for any number of reasons.

I say this because I have never brushed off a guy because he was too nice; but then, they rarely approach me. Hmmm...

i can't speak for all the nice guys, but i pursue all kinds of girls >>nice, sweet, naughty, fiesty, etc..i like the chase. if there is a girl i like i ususally pursue her after after 3 strikes. i don't quit after the first try. if first you don't succeed, try again. after 3 strikes, i move on to the next. afterall, it is a numbers game.

nope. didn't read it.

Hell honey I get BRUSHED AWAY all the time because I AM TO NICE so it works both ways.

DUH!!!! A MOM.
Someone to make decisions for them and all you have to do is do chores and be a good little boy.

i'd rather have a nice guy any day..
but there is more then nice and everyone probably thinks he/she is nice

Nope.. No Way... Don't think so.
Not design that way.
Sorry.. no free pass on that statement.
I don't see the reason why it works both ways.

Never heard of a girl being too nice.
Tell me an example.
Usually if a guy use the word "Nice" to describe a girl... it is more than likely describing her looks.

Guys often describe me as "nice". I don't hang out in bars, dress trashy, or have "friends with benifits". I have a job, & live within my means. I cook from scratch, recycle & am kind to people & animals.

I am that nice girl that would make a great gal for SOMEONE ELSE, because I am not pretty enough or exciting enough to be seen with you.

Okay I am finished and last, too. Cool.

Yes! Most finish last, but would you want her anyway? So best to find out now then later.

Like a fine wine, experence/age makes a good wine. Wait till she's ready. Only takes a few experences/badgrapes to find the right taste.

Because I always put them first and do and do and do not that I mind but all I ever hear is well your just to nice your always smiling your always happy don't you ever have a down day?
You always look at things on the bright side can't you ever be mean and nasty?

So I tried to be mean and nasty did not work for me. Nice looks hmmm yes they do say that and a nice body for someone being 50 what the hell is that suppose to mean?

So you see you have you point of view on this and so do I. That is why we are all different if we were all the same what a boring world this would be. Someday I will find the man who likes NICE.

Ok... I see your point.

From what I understand the simple basic initial attraction formula for:

Men, is visual cues (go figure... Make up and fashions.. I think this has to do with Media Programming with what is good looking and healthy)...

Women, is based on deeper qualities like Confidence and Potential and goals and passion. Statistically, Leaders get more girls and they attract more girls.

Ok, being Nice is a label for the type... not just Nice.
Nice would negatively be described as Low Self-esteem. They don't value yourself or your time and that is why they give so much to the other person. They also become the Door mat, because there is no consquences for bad behavior.

Non-attractive traits... (non Sexual Value Traits)...
being Needy, insecurity, lack of Trust, Lack of Respect for oneself.

There is more... I just don't remember everything that I read.

BTW, it is not about being mean either... the point is have self-respect. Your time is important too. Being mean and being Nice... you are STILL focused on them. Don't be an Ahole. Push off gently if that is your nature... "I'm sorry I can't cook your meal... I have a prior engagement."

Yes you will... YOu can't resist me and you want me.

Still didn't read it. Definitely won't now.

da heck with a nice guy,,,,,,,,,i want a nice woman,,,,,any taker on this one,,,,,,,probley not but heres your change

The world/society/god put plenty of 'how to be a man' instructions everywhere.
The man has a role to fill. He has direction. He has goals that to achieve, and the achievements provide stable home and future choices. He makes choices of his options, and builds a life that can accommodate investing in a others. When he has success, he is the kind of nice guy that women are interested in...and also the guy that other winners want as a neighbor or friend. He is stable, dependable, and an asset to family, friends, and community.

Or....maybe need to read the "How To.." booklets again.

Nice can also be to the point of smothering...if you aren't doing that and you aren't being a doormat, then you are probably just right! Kind and respectful is a good thing...

great input, scoundrel.