Topic: Taking back Hawaii!!!
Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/06/08 07:55 PM


It's always cute when irrelevant ethnic minorities use ridiculous rhetoric to create problems, and in the same breath, create idealistic solutions to those problems.


Irrelevant ethnic minorities........ Dang, just signing your own death warrant aren't you?


Who posted that moondark?
I missed that one..noway noway

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Tue 05/06/08 08:12 PM



Its a day dream than :tongue:


LOL..only blondes can live in a daydream..like Paris Hilton..and you're not blonde! noway :tongue: laugh laugh laugh flowerforyou


I beg to differ! I was sent to the principle office alot for day dreaming and nodding off in class. Then again its the kentucky education system...nothing exciting lol


LOL..oh so you accidentally got bleach on your head..happens to all of us in school! drinker laugh laugh flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Tue 05/06/08 08:48 PM


Hawaii gets a lot of financial support from the mainland. They would suffer greatly if this idiotic plan succeeds. Thankfully, it will not.


And hwere do you get this information??? The property tax dollars ALONE the United States makes from the Hawaiian islands is 100X more than the US government has put into it. The United States MAKES A PROFIT from Hawaii.


proberty tax is a state tax not a federal tax

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 05/06/08 09:02 PM

It's always cute when irrelevant ethnic minorities use ridiculous rhetoric to create problems, and in the same breath, create idealistic solutions to those problems.

I gotta love some "Americans."

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Wed 05/07/08 06:05 AM
Hmmmm. please define "doing very well" Fanta. the native Hawaiians are treated basically like the "native Americans" (Indians to some). They are herded into small portions of land, and basically left to rot.


Just what / where are these pockets? There are no Reservations in Hawaii, except for a hotel room. No Trail of Tears there either. They seek recognition as a tribe, there are several actually.

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Wed 05/07/08 09:37 AM
It's true, its not going to happen. It's all about money for the United States. Always has been and always will be.

But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse. Even the experts in America say its the fault of its own people.

So if the collapse is devistating enough, then that would be the only possible avenue to change the situation in Hawaii.

Will be interesting to see what kind of shanty government will replace the current one in the United States. I have a feeling its going to be even worse and more corrupt.

flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:49 AM
yep maybe and you think it is bad now

just wait till that happens

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Wed 05/07/08 12:28 PM

yep maybe and you think it is bad now

just wait till that happens


Oh sure, it will be total chaos and lawessness. And due to the American's selfishness, it will add just that much more fuel to that fire.

It should be interesting to watch. humanity at its very best! drinker laugh

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 12:30 PM

It's true, its not going to happen. It's all about money for the United States. Always has been and always will be.

But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse. Even the experts in America say its the fault of its own people.

So if the collapse is devistating enough, then that would be the only possible avenue to change the situation in Hawaii.

Will be interesting to see what kind of shanty government will replace the current one in the United States. I have a feeling its going to be even worse and more corrupt.

flowerforyou


I'd like to run in to you on the street talking that ****!

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Wed 05/07/08 12:40 PM


It's true, its not going to happen. It's all about money for the United States. Always has been and always will be.

But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse. Even the experts in America say its the fault of its own people.

So if the collapse is devistating enough, then that would be the only possible avenue to change the situation in Hawaii.

Will be interesting to see what kind of shanty government will replace the current one in the United States. I have a feeling its going to be even worse and more corrupt.

flowerforyou


I'd like to run in to you on the street talking that ****!


Talking what?? The truth?? The experts in America are saying this..I'm getting the info from them..not coming up with something out of thin air.

Is the economy not on the verge of collapse? Did China not just bail out the US housing market and owns a TON of US property now? The "war" in Iraq isn't sacraficing American lives for OIL? The youth of America isn't shooting each other in thier own schools?

What part of this is not truth Fanta? What part is chit as you call it???

So don't blame me, because I did not make America in the way it is. You can hate the truth as much as you want, but thats not going to change that it is the truth. flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 01:05 PM


yep maybe and you think it is bad now

just wait till that happens


Oh sure, it will be total chaos and lawessness. And due to the American's selfishness, it will add just that much more fuel to that fire.

It should be interesting to watch. humanity at its very best! drinker laugh



this goes to show you really do not know the united states at all

if it was so selfish there half of the world would be a part of the united states

granted the united states makes mistakes but if they were selfish they would have kept the lands many united states service people died to protect others from


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Wed 05/07/08 01:09 PM
Edited by adj4u on Wed 05/07/08 01:13 PM



It's true, its not going to happen. It's all about money for the United States. Always has been and always will be.

But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse. Even the experts in America say its the fault of its own people.

So if the collapse is devistating enough, then that would be the only possible avenue to change the situation in Hawaii.

Will be interesting to see what kind of shanty government will replace the current one in the United States. I have a feeling its going to be even worse and more corrupt.

flowerforyou


I'd like to run in to you on the street talking that ****!


Talking what?? The truth?? The experts in America are saying this..I'm getting the info from them..not coming up with something out of thin air.

Is the economy not on the verge of collapse? Did China not just bail out the US housing market and owns a TON of US property now? The "war" in Iraq isn't sacraficing American lives for OIL? The youth of America isn't shooting each other in thier own schools?

What part of this is not truth Fanta? What part is chit as you call it???

So don't blame me, because I did not make America in the way it is. You can hate the truth as much as you want, but thats not going to change that it is the truth. flowerforyou


the united states importation of oil
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Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 1,920 1,944 1,933 1,840 1,848
SAUDI ARABIA 1,614 1,479 1,544 1,185 1,382
MEXICO 1,231 1,198 1,214 1,358 1,398
NIGERIA 982 1,163 1,075 1,061 1,085
VENEZUELA 945 1,135 1,043 1,115 1,031
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
ANGOLA 341 566 458 451 504
KUWAIT 261 239 249 158 165
COLOMBIA 220 171 194 73 106
ALGERIA 191 366 281 392 474
ECUADOR 169 247 209 178 226
BRAZIL 169 169 169 103 156
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 97 91 94 41 48
CHAD 89 117 103 87 78
RUSSIA 80 16 47 49 40


if it was an oil thing you would think they would invade mexico after all that would fix the illegal immigrants entering from mexico issue as well

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Wed 05/07/08 01:15 PM



this goes to show you really do not know the united states at all

if it was so selfish there half of the world would be a part of the united states

granted the united states makes mistakes but if they were selfish they would have kept the lands many united states service people died to protect others from




Sorry, you missed my point.

The service men and women that died years ago died for somethig valuable. honor, dignity, pride were some of those things.

Now, America sacrafices American lives for oil. where is the honor, dignity and pride in that? Personally, its a huge tragedy.

And what I meant by America being "selfish", is the people. they are mostly self centered and self serving. Even the experts in America are saying this and that it is the American people who have made this situation what it is by not standing up to the government and taking thier rightful control of thier own destiny (as it was setup in the beginning).

So no hostility here, just stating what is clearly already out there. What happens to America really won't effect me. I am an American, but I seen this one coming and prepared for it. tried to warn everyone, but as you see here, they just look at you and say "what?". So I did my part and now will just watch. flowerforyou

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Wed 05/07/08 01:17 PM


the united states importation of oil
------------

Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 1,920 1,944 1,933 1,840 1,848
SAUDI ARABIA 1,614 1,479 1,544 1,185 1,382
MEXICO 1,231 1,198 1,214 1,358 1,398
NIGERIA 982 1,163 1,075 1,061 1,085
VENEZUELA 945 1,135 1,043 1,115 1,031
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
ANGOLA 341 566 458 451 504
KUWAIT 261 239 249 158 165
COLOMBIA 220 171 194 73 106
ALGERIA 191 366 281 392 474
ECUADOR 169 247 209 178 226
BRAZIL 169 169 169 103 156
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 97 91 94 41 48
CHAD 89 117 103 87 78
RUSSIA 80 16 47 49 40


if it was an oil thing you would think they would invade mexico after all that would fix the illegal immigrants entering from mexico issue as well



And not ALL that oil combined is worth sacraficing ONE American life!!! Now do you see the point???

WarElephant's photo
Wed 05/07/08 01:45 PM


It's always cute when irrelevant ethnic minorities use ridiculous rhetoric to create problems, and in the same breath, create idealistic solutions to those problems.


Irrelevant ethnic minorities........ Dang, just signing your own death warrant aren't you?


I dare anyone in this thread to come and kill me, or my country. I hope they enjoy the taste of lead.

I understand that my position may not be "politically correct," but ethnic Hawaiians are irrelevant in today's world, just about as much eskimos, Apache, and the Yakutsk of the Far East. None of them who are alive have any claim to the lands that were "stolen" from them because none of them were even alive when it happened. This argument is about as bogus as blacks who preach reparations for slavery.

WarElephant's photo
Wed 05/07/08 01:48 PM
And what I meant by America being "selfish", is the people. they are mostly self centered and self serving. Even the experts in America are saying this and that it is the American people who have made this situation what it is by not standing up to the government and taking thier rightful control of thier own destiny (as it was setup in the beginning).


I'm an American citizen, not a global citizen. America comes first; it always will. I don't give a sh!t about Africa, because honestly, why should I? It's not my fault that people around the world can't take care of themselves. You're just a masquerading globalist.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 02:42 PM
But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse.

But the good news??grumble grumble
Sounds like fightin' words to me.

Sounds like baiting...
Get a life dude and go home!!

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Wed 05/07/08 04:49 PM

But the good news is, the United States is in chaos and about to collapse.

But the good news??grumble grumble
Sounds like fightin' words to me.

Sounds like baiting...
Get a life dude and go home!!


Hmmm..its not baiting Fanta. Seems you just pulled one part out of a much broader meaning. What about all the rest? What there was not the actual truth that is going on in America now? Nothing in that was exagerated or taken out of context..its just straight truth. flowerforyou

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Wed 05/07/08 04:49 PM
Edited by JustDandy on Wed 05/07/08 04:55 PM
System double post..sorry. flowerforyou

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Wed 05/07/08 04:55 PM
Edited by JustDandy on Wed 05/07/08 04:56 PM


I'm an American citizen, not a global citizen. America comes first; it always will. I don't give a sh!t about Africa, because honestly, why should I? It's not my fault that people around the world can't take care of themselves. You're just a masquerading globalist.


Hmmm, first he says the Hawaiians are irrelivent in a 'global world" and here he claims not to be a "global citizen".

Yes, you keep putting "America first" as you claim it. Fact is it is you who mean nothing in the "global world".

Its amazing how much TALK you people do, but again no action. this again is clearly evident by the condition of America today. Its like a broke person trying to tell people how to be a millionaire ... do you not see how rediculous that makes you look? All this TALK, but the country is going down in flames!

And you claim Hawaiians are irrelivent? You can as easily replace that as "Americans are irrelivent in the global world" now, because it basically is becoming just that. huh