Topic: Taking back Hawaii!!!
AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:27 AM


The legal system is not inept so much as the people in it are. Again, you are quick to say I don't know anything, but again, you neither know me or my educational background, so it would be best not to make yourself look like an ass more than you already have. Then again, I don't count on people who base their politics on emotional hate-filled outbursts to really follow my line of thought.


Are you threatening me here? While I personally don't care, I don't think JSH would condone that on their property.


Last time I checked, asking for some evidence to back up outlandish claims and political posturing was not the equivalent of sitting on railroad tracks, but I guess I'm not ignorant enough to understand analogy. While I have asked you over and over again to justify yourself in this thread, you have continually done nothing but called me names and are now an advocate of me dying. All in the same thread.

Very nice. Now I'm still waiting for solid defense of your argument other than petty insults and all-American whining.


Oh, are you calling me names now??? I don't think JSH will alllow that. (note the sarcasm since you don't have a clue) I already know who and what you are and your claimed "educational background" and such.

And how in the world could you ask "Are you threatening me"? Without doubt one of the stupidest remarks yet. How can anyone with even half a brain think that someone telling them to go sit on the train tracks when a train is coming and find the "presedence" they so longingly search for to rule thier life and you think that this has the remote possiblity of some sort of personal threat!!?? noway noway noway

Let me state this in plain, clear consice English that MAYBE you can understand. that comment was NOT any sort of "threat" by ANY means. It' was basically stating htis.. "IF you are that stupid (look up definition in Websters) to need something (prsedence) or someone to tell you to get off the train tracks when a train is coming, then please, feel free to sit there. And I'll even deliver the books while you search for your presedence that states whether or not a person should or should not get off the tracks when a train is coming.

Now is that easier for you to understand? It's kind of like 2+2=4 . It does not get any easier than that.

As for the rest, what you can't read?? Just look it up, there are references all over the place..including direct ones by others right here in the thread, like Fanta's post.

And if you need more proof of my point, all you have to do is go sit on some train tracks with a train coming. My point will be clearly evident shortly thereafter. bigsmile drinker laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:30 AM
:heart: :heart: I hope those people get their islands back:heart: :heart:

WarElephant's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:39 AM
Oh, are you calling me names now??? I don't think JSH will alllow that. (note the sarcasm since you don't have a clue) I already know who and what you are and your claimed "educational background" and such.

And how in the world could you ask "Are you threatening me"? Without doubt one of the stupidest remarks yet. How can anyone with even half a brain think that someone telling them to go sit on the train tracks when a train is coming and find the "presedence" they so longingly search for to rule thier life and you think that this has the remote possiblity of some sort of personal threat!!?? noway noway noway

Let me state this in plain, clear consice English that MAYBE you can understand. that comment was NOT any sort of "threat" by ANY means. It' was basically stating htis.. "IF you are that stupid (look up definition in Websters) to need something (prsedence) or someone to tell you to get off the train tracks when a train is coming, then please, feel free to sit there. And I'll even deliver the books while you search for your presedence that states whether or not a person should or should not get off the tracks when a train is coming.

Now is that easier for you to understand? It's kind of like 2+2=4 . It does not get any easier than that.

As for the rest, what you can't read?? Just look it up, there are references all over the place..including direct ones by others right here in the thread, like Fanta's post.

And if you need more proof of my point, all you have to do is go sit on some train tracks with a train coming. My point will be clearly evident shortly thereafter. bigsmile drinker laugh


Hello, thank you for riding the TANGENT TRAIN, next stop is Dementia.

I'm still waiting for solid proof of your legal and political justifications for such separation.

Donnar's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:46 AM

Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!


http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/30/palace.takeover/index.html


Are you saying you are a native Hawaiian? With blonde hair? I think you are fos. America! Love it or Leave it. Why don't you go to China?
Or would you rather be a Japanese citizen, as you would be if the Japanese on Pearl Harbor wish to make all the people on the Islands? Idiocy!!

AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:56 AM
Edited by AdventurousOne on Sun 05/04/08 12:02 PM


Are you saying you are a native Hawaiian? With blonde hair? I think you are fos. America! Love it or Leave it. Why don't you go to China?
Or would you rather be a Japanese citizen, as you would be if the Japanese on Pearl Harbor wish to make all the people on the Islands? Idiocy!!


What!!?? Can I have some of what you are smoking or drinking...or are you the pill popper type..cause you must be high!!! noway noway noway

Blonde hair from what??? On the pink elephants you are seeing now?? noway :tongue: laugh

Oh and no need to move to China...China is coming here...they already own a TON of the properties in the USA..or did you not hear about the housing collapse and the banks being bailed out by China??? noway noway OK, here's another pill. Remember, don't mess with a nation that's on medication! noway drinker laugh laugh laugh

Now can we get back to the topic..or would you rather go back to the corner and color now? noway laugh laugh laugh

Donnar's photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:21 PM



Are you saying you are a native Hawaiian? With blonde hair? I think you are fos. America! Love it or Leave it. Why don't you go to China?
Or would you rather be a Japanese citizen, as you would be if the Japanese on Pearl Harbor wish to make all the people on the Islands? Idiocy!!


What!!?? Can I have some of what you are smoking or drinking...or are you the pill popper type..cause you must be high!!! noway noway noway

Blonde hair from what??? On the pink elephants you are seeing now?? noway :tongue: laugh

Oh and no need to move to China...China is coming here...they already own a TON of the properties in the USA..or did you not hear about the housing collapse and the banks being bailed out by China??? noway noway OK, here's another pill. Remember, don't mess with a nation that's on medication! noway drinker laugh laugh laugh

Now can we get back to the topic..or would you rather go back to the corner and color now? noway laugh laugh laugh


Your profile says you have blonde hair. Did you forget what your own profile says?? That would make you one of the Illegal Aliens in Hawaii, since you claim American Citizenship, and they should kick your white ass out of the Islands. Not drinking or on drugs. If the Japanese had succeeded in taking the Hawaiian Islands, the people living there would now be Japanese citizens. My reference to China is; if you hate america, go to china, where you are dictated by law to have only 1 child and you can be imprisoned if you have another. They have no civil rights there. "Freedom isn't free. You gotta pay the price, you gotta sacrifice, for your liberty". Before you jump on me, thats the words to a song the chorus sang in High School! DWTOI!

AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:45 PM


Your profile says you have blonde hair. Did you forget what your own profile says?? That would make you one of the Illegal Aliens in Hawaii, since you claim American Citizenship, and they should kick your white ass out of the Islands. Not drinking or on drugs. If the Japanese had succeeded in taking the Hawaiian Islands, the people living there would now be Japanese citizens. My reference to China is; if you hate america, go to china, where you are dictated by law to have only 1 child and you can be imprisoned if you have another. They have no civil rights there. "Freedom isn't free. You gotta pay the price, you gotta sacrifice, for your liberty". Before you jump on me, thats the words to a song the chorus sang in High School! DWTOI!


LOL..Oh! The profile! Yeh, its real, like so many others here. Like my pic too? Nice tan don't ya think??? drinker laugh

And I don;t "claim American citizenship"..I got stuck with that title. It use to be a good thing.

And oh yeh, you are so free!!! You have so much!!! You can;t even own your own property in the USA!! don;t believe me? try not paying your property tax and see how fast you lose what you THINK you have! noway :tongue: laugh

And YOU sacrafice American lives for OIL!!! Someone elses profit and greed! What does that make you!!?? you are an American..you are suppose to have control over your own government..right???? So that means YOU are putting American lives at risk for OIL! Thats about as pathetic as it gets!

So keep singing your high school songs and thinking that you are free and own your own property and have some sort of control over your own future....and all the while the United States is in collapse. what once was a great country has now become a joke around the world. All thanks to the people who let it get that way! GREAT JOB!!!! drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh

AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:53 PM


Hello, thank you for riding the TANGENT TRAIN, next stop is Dementia.

I'm still waiting for solid proof of your legal and political justifications for such separation.


No problem, why don't you go wait on the tracks while I find the presedence you so desperately seek. My point would be proven faster that way..only have to wait until the next train. bigsmile drinker laugh

mnhiker's photo
Sun 05/04/08 01:07 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Sun 05/04/08 01:08 PM



You know whats odd?

When Ike put the question to the voters in Hawaii whether to become a State or not, 94% voted yes...

You dont seriously think we will give it up do you?noway noway


Fanta,

Of course I don't expect the US government just to give Hawaii up. Did you not READ the article on CNN I listed??? It's been clear for a LONG time that Hawaii was annexed ILLEGALLY by the United States..period! It's like ILLEGAL aliens..what part of ILLEGAL do you people not understand????

Thats would be just like giving amnesty to illegal immigrants right now. OK, so they got here illegally, well they are here so we just let them stay! That's EXACTLY what you would have to be fair and equal in this situation! Try to tell me i am wrong there.

Of course the segment you are talking about, that's 3 generations AFTER the United States ILLEGALLY took Hawaii. That means 3 generations of "trained ponies".

Hawaiians have every RIGHT to take back their own lands as a sovereign nation! It's clear they were annexed ILLEGALLY, so where is the problem??? What's RIGHT is RIGHT! drinker flowerforyou


I agree Hawaii was invaded and conquered by the US. There is a difference between that and illegal immigration.
If the illegals want to fight to take back Texas, Ariz, NM, and Calif let them try.
If Hawaiians who are now a minority in Hawaii want to try and take it back let them.
Good luck though, esp since it is now a forward defensive base for the mainland and inhabited by more military personnel than Hawaiians.


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Does Hawaii export anything other than pineapples and leis?

I don't think so.

It imports almost everything from the mainland!

If they seceded from the union, they'd starve!

I hear they love spam.

Spam and pineapple, anyone?

AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 05/04/08 01:14 PM


laugh laugh laugh

Does Hawaii export anything other than pineapples and leis?

I don't think so.

It imports almost everything from the mainland!

If they seceded from the union, they'd starve!

I hear they love spam.

Spam and pineapple, anyone?


It is true they import a huge amount of things, but not true about the Spam..we like RICE CAKES!!! noway :tongue: laugh

Actually, Hawaii could provide for itself very nicely in many ways, not by export. Geographical location makes it an essential stop for many flights and ships coming across the Pacific.

And many of the imports do not come from the United States mainland, many are imported from the other countries that pass through.

Hawaii is also the most "wired" place for communications in the Pacific.

So there are many ways Hawaii can support itself. But Spam might be a good idea too..open a new Spam factory, would make a great tourist attraction...we hear Americans love Spam too! noway :tongue: laugh laugh flowerforyou

mnhiker's photo
Sun 05/04/08 08:42 PM



laugh laugh laugh

Does Hawaii export anything other than pineapples and leis?

I don't think so.

It imports almost everything from the mainland!

If they seceded from the union, they'd starve!

I hear they love spam.

Spam and pineapple, anyone?


It is true they import a huge amount of things, but not true about the Spam..we like RICE CAKES!!! noway :tongue: laugh

Actually, Hawaii could provide for itself very nicely in many ways, not by export. Geographical location makes it an essential stop for many flights and ships coming across the Pacific.

And many of the imports do not come from the United States mainland, many are imported from the other countries that pass through.

Hawaii is also the most "wired" place for communications in the Pacific.

So there are many ways Hawaii can support itself. But Spam might be a good idea too..open a new Spam factory, would make a great tourist attraction...we hear Americans love Spam too! noway :tongue: laugh laugh flowerforyou


According to several sources I've seen on the internet, Hawaiians have a love affair with spam, which they consider a delicacy.

Here's one:

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Spam.htm

According to Hormel Foods, 'Hawaii is the biggest per-capita consumer of Spam in the United States'.

This was reported in an article in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin:

http://starbulletin.com/2003/08/23/business/story1.html

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 05/04/08 09:01 PM

Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!


http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/30/palace.takeover/index.html

well if that is truth. there are a lot I mean a lot other things that this country must return.
Just an example: Guantanamo.

adj4u's photo
Mon 05/05/08 10:49 AM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 05/05/08 10:51 AM
yep a lot of things need returned i agree

like multi millions of illegal immigrants


and about the base on cuba if the united states was so bad they would have the whole island can you say spanish american war

just a thought

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Mon 05/05/08 03:06 PM


it's my own reasons. i can't tell you what do believe etc just like no one can tell me. well they can try but my beliefs and opinions are mine. maybe that is one of the many reasons

you have to come up with your own reasons or not....no copying off my paper lol


I'm not asking you to tell me what to believe in..I just honestly could use soemthing to grasp on here. Where's something to HOPE for here? What is GOOD in America now? What is something everyone can be proud of in America??? Just give me ONE! flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


the people are good my friend and most are really pissed off as you are.we need to get back to by the people for the people.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Mon 05/05/08 03:09 PM



Are you saying you are a native Hawaiian? With blonde hair? I think you are fos. America! Love it or Leave it. Why don't you go to China?
Or would you rather be a Japanese citizen, as you would be if the Japanese on Pearl Harbor wish to make all the people on the Islands? Idiocy!!


What!!?? Can I have some of what you are smoking or drinking...or are you the pill popper type..cause you must be high!!! noway noway noway

Blonde hair from what??? On the pink elephants you are seeing now?? noway :tongue: laugh

Oh and no need to move to China...China is coming here...they already own a TON of the properties in the USA..or did you not hear about the housing collapse and the banks being bailed out by China??? noway noway OK, here's another pill. Remember, don't mess with a nation that's on medication! noway drinker laugh laugh laugh

Now can we get back to the topic..or would you rather go back to the corner and color now? noway laugh laugh laugh


the housing collapse has not hit here.each region of the us has been affected differently by the mortgage thing.houses in good shape are selling like hotcakes here and believe me its the WASPS from boston buying them.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Mon 05/05/08 08:28 PM

yep a lot of things need returned i agree

like multi millions of illegal immigrants


and about the base on cuba if the united states was so bad they would have the whole island can you say spanish american war

just a thought


did i hurt any feelings around here?
ops, i did it again.
sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drinker

adj4u's photo
Mon 05/05/08 09:00 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 05/05/08 09:00 PM
has nothing to do with feelings just putting the facts straight

drinker

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Tue 05/06/08 09:33 AM

yep a lot of things need returned i agree

like multi millions of illegal immigrants


and about the base on cuba if the united states was so bad they would have the whole island can you say spanish american war

just a thought



Ummm, well looks like the great JSH censorship board is at it again. See the original poster can't post now.

I agree, the multi millions of illegal immigrants should be put back across the boarders...I think the original poster was clear on that after reading the threads here.

And by making such a correction, the United States should also return what it has ILLEGALLY taken. Again, correcting an ILLEGAL act is justified.

Basic point that you seem to be missing... ANYTHING ILLEGAL ANYWHERE BY ANYONE (including a country) IS JUST THAT.. ILLEGAL! AGAINST THE LAW! A CRIME!!! And 2+2=4!! It's that SIMPLE! What part are you NOT understanding?

The ILLEGAL immigrants have commited a CRIME that needs to be CORRECTED. The United States Government has done ILLEGAL acts also,which are a CRIME and which need to be CORRECTED.

Its as simple as what is ILLEGAL by ANYONE or ANY COUNTRY have commited a CRIME! Period! That's why its called ILLEGAL! noway huh huh

adj4u's photo
Tue 05/06/08 10:19 AM


yep a lot of things need returned i agree

like multi millions of illegal immigrants


and about the base on cuba if the united states was so bad they would have the whole island can you say spanish american war

just a thought



Ummm, well looks like the great JSH censorship board is at it again. See the original poster can't post now.

I agree, the multi millions of illegal immigrants should be put back across the boarders...I think the original poster was clear on that after reading the threads here.

And by making such a correction, the United States should also return what it has ILLEGALLY taken. Again, correcting an ILLEGAL act is justified.

Basic point that you seem to be missing... ANYTHING ILLEGAL ANYWHERE BY ANYONE (including a country) IS JUST THAT.. ILLEGAL! AGAINST THE LAW! A CRIME!!! And 2+2=4!! It's that SIMPLE! What part are you NOT understanding?

The ILLEGAL immigrants have commited a CRIME that needs to be CORRECTED. The United States Government has done ILLEGAL acts also,which are a CRIME and which need to be CORRECTED.

Its as simple as what is ILLEGAL by ANYONE or ANY COUNTRY have commited a CRIME! Period! That's why its called ILLEGAL! noway huh huh


well show me any country anywhere that was not taken be force at one time or another

like i said if the united states wa so imperialist

japan and half of europe along with all of cuba would be part of the united states and a lot of mexico as well the united states was all the way to mexico city in the mexican american war

to do as you are saying all govt would need to be abolished

be well

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Tue 05/06/08 10:44 AM
Edited by WhyBother on Tue 05/06/08 11:40 AM


well show me any country anywhere that was not taken be force at one time or another

like i said if the united states wa so imperialist

japan and half of europe along with all of cuba would be part of the united states and a lot of mexico as well the united states was all the way to mexico city in the mexican american war

to do as you are saying all govt would need to be abolished

be well


No,it is your kind of thinking that ALLOWS ILLEGAL THINGS TO HAPPEN WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY!

Let put this right down to a level you simply can't deny, because you will obviously not realize anything unless it "hits home".

OK, some guy breaks into your house, kills a member of your family and takes your house. They have commited a CRIMINAL ACT, they have BROKEN THE LAW!

Now, lets see you just let them go! let them have your house and go unpunished for killing one of your family members. Thats in reality all you are saying here. Hey the guy "took by force" and from what you just stated..that's OK!!!

Now you will try to say "well that's different"..well NO ITS NOT! Both were taken by force! It's just one hits HOME and affects YOU! That's called being NARROW MINDED. You think you are more entitled to your house than anyone else is entitled to thier's in the world??? I don't think so!