Topic: Taking back Hawaii!!!
AdventurousOne's photo
Thu 05/01/08 01:28 PM


i guess the united states should give hawaii back to spain then

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Nah, even a BETTER idea. Why not just have the United States keep its nose in it's OWN BUSINESS and fix it's OWN problems, instead if sticking it's nose where it does NOT belong and is NOT wanted/? ( CAN YOU SAY IRAQ!!!???)

Don't you think that would be a much better thing for America to do since it's in so much trouble as is???? noway laugh laugh drinker drinker

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Thu 05/01/08 01:30 PM



i guess the united states should give hawaii back to spain then

bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile


Nah, even a BETTER idea. Why not just have the United States keep its nose in it's OWN BUSINESS and fix it's OWN problems, instead if sticking it's nose where it does NOT belong and is NOT wanted/? ( CAN YOU SAY IRAQ!!!???)

Don't you think that would be a much better thing for America to do since it's in so much trouble as is???? noway laugh laugh drinker drinker
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WarElephant's photo
Thu 05/01/08 01:57 PM


Yeh, and whats even more cute is when arrogant pr*cks think they have "rights" and they don't really even have a clue. And they sit back with what looks like a turd in thier mouth spouting off cander from an insecure and low IQ brain. Don't ya think??? noway :tongue: laugh laugh laugh


Low IQ and insecure. Right. You found me out!

And what do you mean? I DO have rights, they're God-given, and no one can take them away from me. Before you start dispensing internet flames, maybe you should consider that there are real problems in this world to be dealt with--things like broken borders, inane monetary systems, and taxation--as opposed to your little "Free Hawaii" thing that has absolutely no legitimate grounds for political debate.


ROFL..grounds for political debate??? I'm sure you're a master debater! drinker laugh laugh

And all your words mean nothing. You interject bs. You should be an American politician, you'd fit right in! All mouth, no action!

The proof is right in front of you..America is on the verge of economic collapse! How are your words going to fix that?? it was all the people like you doing nothing but TALK. So keep talking while America falls! You have nothing but words...and worthless words at that. you're own standing in the world shows your REAL place...ignorant, arrogant and going down fast! drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh


Considering you know nothing of me or my education, your blatant attempt at ad hominem attacks are quite amusing. I am well aware of my nation's impending depression, but last time I checked, Hawaii is a part of the U.S. just like any of the other 49 states. Tell me, restless native, would you rather prefer we leave your inconsequential islands in the dust of history? You and your kind are just upset because you have nothing better to do but ***** about how the U.S. government treats you horribly, and how you're not living in grass huts anymore. Seriously, get a job and a life.

AdventurousOne's photo
Thu 05/01/08 03:45 PM
Edited by AdventurousOne on Thu 05/01/08 04:04 PM


Considering you know nothing of me or my education, your blatant attempt at ad hominem attacks are quite amusing. I am well aware of my nation's impending depression, but last time I checked, Hawaii is a part of the U.S. just like any of the other 49 states. Tell me, restless native, would you rather prefer we leave your inconsequential islands in the dust of history? You and your kind are just upset because you have nothing better to do but ***** about how the U.S. government treats you horribly, and how you're not living in grass huts anymore. Seriously, get a job and a life.


LOL, I know you perfectly! Your kind is very simple, you have a little book knowledge, but could not hold your own in this world without someone else carrying you, telling you what to do and how to do it.

Once again, all you have are WORDS and claim everyone is "attacking you" (a very common trait among many with inferiority complexes).

And again, what is REALITY is what stares you in the face, but all you have is WORDS that mean nothing. drinker

I'm not a native of Hawaii. I am an American. And have seen the likes of you and your kind destroy what was once a great country, because you self served yourself right into destruction.

Glenn Beck said it straight.. the American people did it to themselves! I'm just one of the few that had sense enough to prepare. so your actions won't really affect me.

So as you fall, I laugh, because justice to your kind is being served. drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 05/01/08 03:58 PM
ohwell

HangedMan's photo
Thu 05/01/08 04:12 PM
Wow, someone's abit upset eh?

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Thu 05/01/08 04:31 PM



Considering you know nothing of me or my education, your blatant attempt at ad hominem attacks are quite amusing. I am well aware of my nation's impending depression, but last time I checked, Hawaii is a part of the U.S. just like any of the other 49 states. Tell me, restless native, would you rather prefer we leave your inconsequential islands in the dust of history? You and your kind are just upset because you have nothing better to do but ***** about how the U.S. government treats you horribly, and how you're not living in grass huts anymore. Seriously, get a job and a life.


LOL, I know you perfectly! Your kind is very simple, you have a little book knowledge, but could not hold your own in this world without someone else carrying you, telling you what to do and how to do it.

Once again, all you have are WORDS and claim everyone is "attacking you" (a very common trait among many with inferiority complexes).

And again, what is REALITY is what stares you in the face, but all you have is WORDS that mean nothing. drinker

I'm not a native of Hawaii. I am an American. And have seen the likes of you and your kind destroy what was once a great country, because you self served yourself right into destruction.

Glenn Beck said it straight.. the American people did it to themselves! I'm just one of the few that had sense enough to prepare. so your actions won't really affect me.

So as you fall, I laugh, because justice to your kind is being served. drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh
YOu go dearflowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/01/08 05:04 PM



i guess the united states should give hawaii back to spain then

bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile


Nah, even a BETTER idea. Why not just have the United States keep its nose in it's OWN BUSINESS and fix it's OWN problems, instead if sticking it's nose where it does NOT belong and is NOT wanted/? ( CAN YOU SAY IRAQ!!!???)

Don't you think that would be a much better thing for America to do since it's in so much trouble as is???? noway laugh laugh drinker drinker


how does that relate to the issue of this thread

i must say it cost you a couple credibility points

off topic and a distraction from issue at hand

gardenforge's photo
Thu 05/01/08 06:21 PM




It's always cute when irrelevant ethnic minorities use ridiculous rhetoric to create problems, and in the same breath, create idealistic solutions to those problems.


Yeh, and whats even more cute is when arrogant pr*cks think they have "rights" and they don't really even have a clue. And they sit back with what looks like a turd in thier mouth spouting off cander from an insecure and low IQ brain. Don't ya think??? noway :tongue: laugh laugh laugh


Profanity = a small mind's feble attempt at self expression.

Personal Attack = that small minds acknowledgement that it can't come up with anything intelligent to refute the argument

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LOL..and who tugged your chain??? Since you like definitions

Insecure, sexually incompitent, low self esteem = a person who feels the need to butt into another person's conversation and interject thier worthless "opinion" where its not relevent or any of thier business in the first place. But does make them feel more "adiquate" and gives thier worthless life some sort of purpose, no matter how pathetic. bigsmile laugh laugh laugh

Let's all just say "YEE HAW"!!! and go ride the redneck sand buggies!!! noway :tongue: laugh laugh laugh drinker


When you post here it is public domain everybody can comment of course to someone with a childish mind that is a difficult concept to grasp. Once again a personal attack when the argument fails. Grow up little boy and read the rules of the fourm. Once again your argument fails you and shows you up as a fool.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 06:45 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/01/08 06:49 PM


You know whats odd?

When Ike put the question to the voters in Hawaii whether to become a State or not, 94% voted yes...

You dont seriously think we will give it up do you?noway noway


Fanta,

Of course I don't expect the US government just to give Hawaii up. Did you not READ the article on CNN I listed??? It's been clear for a LONG time that Hawaii was annexed ILLEGALLY by the United States..period! It's like ILLEGAL aliens..what part of ILLEGAL do you people not understand????

Thats would be just like giving amnesty to illegal immigrants right now. OK, so they got here illegally, well they are here so we just let them stay! That's EXACTLY what you would have to be fair and equal in this situation! Try to tell me i am wrong there.

Of course the segment you are talking about, that's 3 generations AFTER the United States ILLEGALLY took Hawaii. That means 3 generations of "trained ponies".

Hawaiians have every RIGHT to take back their own lands as a sovereign nation! It's clear they were annexed ILLEGALLY, so where is the problem??? What's RIGHT is RIGHT! drinker flowerforyou


I agree Hawaii was invaded and conquered by the US. There is a difference between that and illegal immigration.
If the illegals want to fight to take back Texas, Ariz, NM, and Calif let them try.
If Hawaiians who are now a minority in Hawaii want to try and take it back let them.
Good luck though, esp since it is now a forward defensive base for the mainland and inhabited by more military personnel than Hawaiians.

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/01/08 06:47 PM
hawaii was a spanish colony lost to the united states
in the spanish american war

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 06:56 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/01/08 06:58 PM
I dont think so Adj.
It was discovered by the British, and hes right the US sent Marines in and took it. from the Hawaiian Monarchy. Queen so and so. I cant remember her name.

At first the US ordered the Marines out and to restore the Islands back to the Hawaiians, the Marines didn't leave, and the President reversed his decision. I'm thinking the President was Grover Cleveland.

Later Ike put annexation to a vote and 94% voted to become a State. I dont recall the Spanish ever had control, unless it was way back..

WarElephant's photo
Thu 05/01/08 07:27 PM



Considering you know nothing of me or my education, your blatant attempt at ad hominem attacks are quite amusing. I am well aware of my nation's impending depression, but last time I checked, Hawaii is a part of the U.S. just like any of the other 49 states. Tell me, restless native, would you rather prefer we leave your inconsequential islands in the dust of history? You and your kind are just upset because you have nothing better to do but ***** about how the U.S. government treats you horribly, and how you're not living in grass huts anymore. Seriously, get a job and a life.


LOL, I know you perfectly! Your kind is very simple, you have a little book knowledge, but could not hold your own in this world without someone else carrying you, telling you what to do and how to do it.

Once again, all you have are WORDS and claim everyone is "attacking you" (a very common trait among many with inferiority complexes).

And again, what is REALITY is what stares you in the face, but all you have is WORDS that mean nothing. drinker

I'm not a native of Hawaii. I am an American. And have seen the likes of you and your kind destroy what was once a great country, because you self served yourself right into destruction.

Glenn Beck said it straight.. the American people did it to themselves! I'm just one of the few that had sense enough to prepare. so your actions won't really affect me.

So as you fall, I laugh, because justice to your kind is being served. drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh


Blah blah, ad hominem, blah blah blah. You're not even Hawaiian. You don't know jack about me or my politics; especially since I'm technically the one on this board calling people out for being ignorant, jaded Americans. You just don't like the political incorrectness associated with my previous posts, and completely ignore the political questions at stake because you don't even have an argument.

Like Fanta said, go ahead and try to "take back" Hawaii. I'm not scraping your carcass off the road when you're done, though I'll be more than happy to smoke my Romeo y Julieta in the plentiful pineapple fields afterwards.

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/01/08 07:34 PM
One hundred years ago, in 1898, the United States was fighting the Spanish-American War. The victory over Spain made the United States a colonial power. The Spanish colonies of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines, as well as the formerly independent nation of Hawaii, became American possessions.

http://www.progress.org/fold37.htm

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 07:53 PM

One hundred years ago, in 1898, the United States was fighting the Spanish-American War. The victory over Spain made the United States a colonial power. The Spanish colonies of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines, as well as the formerly independent nation of Hawaii, became American possessions.

http://www.progress.org/fold37.htm


That doesnt say Hawaii was a Spanish colony. it says it was an independent nation.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 07:58 PM
300-600 A.D
Hawaiians
before 1778 Spanish?
1778 Western Contact (Captain Cook);

Written Sources begin at this time. (Before 1778, things were passed down through Oral Tradition.)

1778-1820 Merchants, Whalers and American Missionaries arrive
1795 Kamehameha I becomes King
1819 Kamehameha I dies; Kamehameha II becomes King
1822 Printing Begins
1824 Kamehameha II dies; Kamehameha III becomes King
1834 Newspapers Begin
1848 The Great Mahele is signed by the King, which has to do with land ownership
1852 Chinese arrive in groups
1854 Kamehameha III dies; Kamehameha IV becomes King
1863 Kamehameha IV dies; Kamehameha V becomes King
1868 Japanese arrive in groups
1872 Kamehameha V dies; William Lunalilo confirmed as King of Hawaii by the Hawaiian Legislature after an informal popular vote.
1874 King Lunalilo dies; David Kalakaua is elected King
1878 Portuguese arrive in groups
1881 Germans arrive in groups
1891 King Kalakaua dies; Lili'uokalani becomes Queen
1893 Queen Liliuokalani surrendered the kingdom to the United States under protest
July 7, 1898 Hawaii is annexed to the United States
1900 Hawaii becomes a United States Territory

Okinawans and Puerto Ricans arrive in groups

1903 Koreans arrive in groups
1906 Filipinos arrive in groups
1959 Hawaii becomes the United States' 50th state


http://www.hawaiian-roots.com/timeline.htm

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/01/08 08:01 PM
drinker drinker


Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 08:02 PM
1893 Queen Liliuokalani surrendered the kingdom to the United States under protest
July 7, 1898 Hawaii is annexed to the United States
1900 Hawaii becomes a United States Territory


This time is when Im talking about,
The US sent a company of Marines and two companies of sailors ashore and took over Hawaii at the bequest of the US Ambassador.
In 1894 the US annexed Hawaii and it became a territory.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:03 PM

Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!


http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/30/palace.takeover/index.html


Um the Conch Republic tried that and failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:08 PM
I read too much........laugh laugh laugh laugh