Topic: Taking back Hawaii!!!
adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 05:11 PM



the united states importation of oil
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Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 1,920 1,944 1,933 1,840 1,848
SAUDI ARABIA 1,614 1,479 1,544 1,185 1,382
MEXICO 1,231 1,198 1,214 1,358 1,398
NIGERIA 982 1,163 1,075 1,061 1,085
VENEZUELA 945 1,135 1,043 1,115 1,031
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
ANGOLA 341 566 458 451 504
KUWAIT 261 239 249 158 165
COLOMBIA 220 171 194 73 106
ALGERIA 191 366 281 392 474
ECUADOR 169 247 209 178 226
BRAZIL 169 169 169 103 156
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 97 91 94 41 48
CHAD 89 117 103 87 78
RUSSIA 80 16 47 49 40


if it was an oil thing you would think they would invade mexico after all that would fix the illegal immigrants entering from mexico issue as well



And not ALL that oil combined is worth sacraficing ONE American life!!! Now do you see the point???



and that has nothing to do with the point of this thread

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Wed 05/07/08 05:16 PM




the united states importation of oil
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Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 1,920 1,944 1,933 1,840 1,848
SAUDI ARABIA 1,614 1,479 1,544 1,185 1,382
MEXICO 1,231 1,198 1,214 1,358 1,398
NIGERIA 982 1,163 1,075 1,061 1,085
VENEZUELA 945 1,135 1,043 1,115 1,031
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
ANGOLA 341 566 458 451 504
KUWAIT 261 239 249 158 165
COLOMBIA 220 171 194 73 106
ALGERIA 191 366 281 392 474
ECUADOR 169 247 209 178 226
BRAZIL 169 169 169 103 156
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 97 91 94 41 48
CHAD 89 117 103 87 78
RUSSIA 80 16 47 49 40


if it was an oil thing you would think they would invade mexico after all that would fix the illegal immigrants entering from mexico issue as well



And not ALL that oil combined is worth sacraficing ONE American life!!! Now do you see the point???



and that has nothing to do with the point of this thread


ROFL..hmm read above...and YOUR'S DID!!??? noway noway

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 05:31 PM
the one about imperialism did yes

as calling the united states selfish as to land grabbing imperialism it was right on point even with the opening post

the oil one no but it was in a response to yer post



Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!



you do not think if not for being a part of the united states at the onset of ww2 that hawaii would not have been invaded an most native hawiians not murdered or maamed then there is a problem with the thought process

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:22 PM


the one about imperialism did yes

as calling the united states selfish as to land grabbing imperialism it was right on point even with the opening post

the oil one no but it was in a response to yer post



Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!



you do not think if not for being a part of the united states at the onset of ww2 that hawaii would not have been invaded an most native hawiians not murdered or maamed then there is a problem with the thought process


LOL..are you a politician??? huh Because you sure don't seem to answer direct questions and try like heck to dance around to get your view in, but don't seem to be seeing others..and most of all answering direct questions. Is your last name Bush or Clinton by chance??? noway laugh drinker


What do you do adventure? Get suspended, only to grab a new profile and come right back.

Your name isnt really Gary is it?laugh laugh laugh

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:24 PM



the one about imperialism did yes

as calling the united states selfish as to land grabbing imperialism it was right on point even with the opening post

the oil one no but it was in a response to yer post



Taking Hawaii BACK from the USA!!! I pray they succeeed in thier quest for thier RIGHTFUL FREEDOM that was taken by force by the United States!

Then I will become a legal Hawaiian citizen and tell the US government to kiss off!!! Thieving corrupt b*stards!



you do not think if not for being a part of the united states at the onset of ww2 that hawaii would not have been invaded an most native hawiians not murdered or maamed then there is a problem with the thought process


LOL..are you a politician??? huh Because you sure don't seem to answer direct questions and try like heck to dance around to get your view in, but don't seem to be seeing others..and most of all answering direct questions. Is your last name Bush or Clinton by chance??? noway laugh drinker


What do you do adventure? Get suspended, only to grab a new profile and come right back.

Your name isnt really Gary is it?laugh laugh laugh



fanta that was hartfelt response

laugh laugh laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:27 PM
I try!!huh

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:38 PM
those that live in a fantasy one dimensional world expect a yes or no answer to a multi faceted question

their are very few simple questions except for the simple minded

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:42 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 05/07/08 06:43 PM



What do you do adventure? Get suspended, only to grab a new profile and come right back.

Your name isnt really Gary is it?laugh laugh laugh


LOL..heck no Fanta, I just like to rotate the names, just like so many other here do! drinker

And you're another to talk..you can't answer a direct question either. All you do is rant on how "those are fightin words" and "if you were talkin chit like that on the street". Thats just too funny! drinker laugh

Why don't you answer the questions?? Because they are TRUE????
If you would put HALF your lip service to actual work, the US might not be such a bad place now..what do ya think?? drinker bigsmile laugh flowerforyou

Just like Adj can't seem to answer any direct questions. That shows a lot of backbone!!! drinker laugh laugh laugh


Your questions are repetitive and the answers ignored so why try.
Im through talking to a blue box.....

Me a man. Be you!!

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:48 PM
pointless post you spend a dollar for something might as well give them the rest of your money as well

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 06:56 PM


pointless post you spend a dollar for something might as well give them the rest of your money as well


LOL..there you definitely have a pointless point. drinker laugh flowerforyou


i agree says the same thing yers did

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Wed 05/07/08 06:59 PM



pointless post you spend a dollar for something might as well give them the rest of your money as well


LOL..there you definitely have a pointless point. drinker laugh flowerforyou


i agree says the same thing yers did


Mine was a simple straight forward question to you and Fanta..and shows neither of you have the backbone to give a straight answer. It's NOT a tough question and its not like everyone doesn't already KNOW the answer. Duh! drinker laugh laugh flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:03 PM
like YOU said it is a pointless point


give it up you undermined it yourself


when you get something substansal to say maybe some one will take you more serious but if you keep on the path you are now on i doubt it


no photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:06 PM

like YOU said it is a pointless point


give it up you undermined it yourself


when you get something substansal to say maybe some one will take you more serious but if you keep on the path you are now on i doubt it




LOL..run Mr President..don't answer the questions!! If you do, you'll have to admit that America is ruined and can't stand on its own feet anymore! drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:07 PM
we need to move this thread to the jokes section now


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 05/07/08 07:10 PM

we need to move this thread to the jokes section now


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


LOL..yep! And move America there as well!! drinker drinker laugh laugh flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:11 PM

we need to move this thread to the jokes section now


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Did you read the original link Adj.
Its 60 people protesting, wanting to return Hawaii to a Monarchy!

It was a joke right from the start!

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:12 PM
but i was having fun anyway they should take those 60 people

put them on one of the small uninhabited islands and say here have at it

karmafury's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:15 PM
Edited by karmafury on Wed 05/07/08 07:16 PM
As a Canadian maybe my opinion really doesn't mean too much here. But even I can realize that an independent Hawaii would be ripe for the picking by any other nation that wanted it. It simply couldn't survive without the mainland U.S.

http://www.hawaiianstyletravel.com/Information/HawaiiEconomy.php

Hawaii ranks relatively low among the states in terms of personal income, farm products sold, value of manufacturing shipments, retail sales, and bank deposits.

A major problem in Hawaii is the high cost of living, due in large part to Hawaii's insularity and dependence on imports. Transportation costs are included in the prices of nearly all consumer goods.

As the population increases, housing grows increasingly difficult to acquire, and it is disproportionately expensive when compared with housing costs in many of the mainland states. Building materials, most of which are imported, are expensive. Residential land is limited and highly priced, since much of the property, notably on Oahu, is owned by corporations and trusts.

Hawaii has no important mineral deposits; its only natural resources are its climate, water supply, soil, vegetation, and surrounding ocean and rock, gravel, sand, and earth quarried for use in construction and landscaping. Electric power is supplied by a small number of power companies operating oil-powered steam and diesel generators.

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Alright, so for the sake of argument Hawaii gets its independence and these corporations leave, taking all equipment that are needed to run the various enterprises with them. Also removing all finances which eventually keep up local economy with them. What happens? You wind up with an independent nation that cannot support itself and is in a worse situation than before.
Add to that that, as stated by WolfSoul, that the natives want recognition as tribes, a mistake in itself again but for other reasons. Any recognition gained would be lost to them because they would no longer be a part of the U.S. Seems like a lot of effort and work for no gain.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:20 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 05/07/08 07:21 PM

As a Canadian maybe my opinion really doesn't mean too much here. But even I can realize that an independent Hawaii would be ripe for the picking by any other nation that wanted it. It simply couldn't survive without the mainland U.S.

http://www.hawaiianstyletravel.com/Information/HawaiiEconomy.php

Hawaii ranks relatively low among the states in terms of personal income, farm products sold, value of manufacturing shipments, retail sales, and bank deposits.

A major problem in Hawaii is the high cost of living, due in large part to Hawaii's insularity and dependence on imports. Transportation costs are included in the prices of nearly all consumer goods.

As the population increases, housing grows increasingly difficult to acquire, and it is disproportionately expensive when compared with housing costs in many of the mainland states. Building materials, most of which are imported, are expensive. Residential land is limited and highly priced, since much of the property, notably on Oahu, is owned by corporations and trusts.

Hawaii has no important mineral deposits; its only natural resources are its climate, water supply, soil, vegetation, and surrounding ocean and rock, gravel, sand, and earth quarried for use in construction and landscaping. Electric power is supplied by a small number of power companies operating oil-powered steam and diesel generators.

...................

Alright, so for the sake of argument Hawaii gets its independence and these corporations leave, taking all equipment that are needed to run the various enterprises with them. Also removing all finances which eventually keep up local economy with them. What happens? You wind up with an independent nation that cannot support itself and is in a worse situation than before.
Add to that that, as stated by WolfSoul, that the natives want recognition as tribes, a mistake in itself again but for other reasons. Any recognition gained would be lost to them because they would no longer be a part of the U.S. Seems like a lot of effort and work for no gain.


Go back and read my posts karma. I did better than that and provided a link!

He doesnt want to look at reality!

40 % of the pop in Hawaii is Asian, 9 % Hawaiian.
40 % of the industry is owned by Asians, 8.? % Hawaiian!

Go back and look its interesting what he wants to do because of 60 protesters!drinker

karmafury's photo
Wed 05/07/08 07:21 PM


As a Canadian maybe my opinion really doesn't mean too much here. But even I can realize that an independent Hawaii would be ripe for the picking by any other nation that wanted it. It simply couldn't survive without the mainland U.S.

http://www.hawaiianstyletravel.com/Information/HawaiiEconomy.php

Hawaii ranks relatively low among the states in terms of personal income, farm products sold, value of manufacturing shipments, retail sales, and bank deposits.

A major problem in Hawaii is the high cost of living, due in large part to Hawaii's insularity and dependence on imports. Transportation costs are included in the prices of nearly all consumer goods.

As the population increases, housing grows increasingly difficult to acquire, and it is disproportionately expensive when compared with housing costs in many of the mainland states. Building materials, most of which are imported, are expensive. Residential land is limited and highly priced, since much of the property, notably on Oahu, is owned by corporations and trusts.

Hawaii has no important mineral deposits; its only natural resources are its climate, water supply, soil, vegetation, and surrounding ocean and rock, gravel, sand, and earth quarried for use in construction and landscaping. Electric power is supplied by a small number of power companies operating oil-powered steam and diesel generators.

...................

Alright, so for the sake of argument Hawaii gets its independence and these corporations leave, taking all equipment that are needed to run the various enterprises with them. Also removing all finances which eventually keep up local economy with them. What happens? You wind up with an independent nation that cannot support itself and is in a worse situation than before.
Add to that that, as stated by WolfSoul, that the natives want recognition as tribes, a mistake in itself again but for other reasons. Any recognition gained would be lost to them because they would no longer be a part of the U.S. Seems like a lot of effort and work for no gain.


Go back and read my posts karma. I did better than that and provided a link!

He doesnt want to look at reality!

40 % of the pop in Hawaii is Asian, 9 % Hawaiian.
40 % of the industry is owned by Asians, 8.? % Hawaiian!

Go back and look its interesting what he wants to do because of 60 protesters!drinker


I have been reading.