there is bitterness, i have never been one to want to believe that a man is only as important as his bank account. but i guess when obama brings socialism, he will level the playing field. then a man will be measured by how long he can stand in the welfare line.

men aren't painted in a very good light nowadays anyways. women do their best to burst any self worth a man has into flames because guys have different ways of showing thier pride. most men haven't learned how to show pride without some kind of testosteronish level.

that has happened, they just send back a picture of handcuffs and a jail cell.

me thinkest you are correct, thank you good sir for setting me straight.

you are only reinforcing my point rose. the introduction of this fake money has brought us to this point. don't tell me you are happy being single. don't tell me you wouldn't be happy with a man that was honorable and fair. the reason you women can't find a man like that these days is because money makes it too easy for guys to keep going to the next woman and then the next. men don't have to try to fall in love anymore. men only do this because they themselves feel unworthy of keeping a woman. i can't believe that women or men truly like being stuck in this world where women are too independent to need the man for anything but sex or company and men are too put down because they can't afford the things to take care of their families. this is what money has done to us, don't tell me it's better, none of us would be on this site if that were true.

it takes a whole new stage in your mind when you realize that the same people who own our federal reserve, owns the central banks around the world. the countries don't own these banks, a certain group does. court cases have proved time and time again that the federal reserve is not part of the government, therefor, the plaintiffs could not collect any monies based on the fact that they sued under a federal government remuniation type of act. if they would have sued them as corporate - for profit businesses, they would have won and collected the damages.

the question to be asking is this, why would they lead the people to believe that they belong to the particular country and we are borrowing from that particular country? especially when we are effectively borrowing from the same people that we would have if we borrowed it from the federal reserve.

dragoness, the national debt is the reason for this impending depression. these two can't be seperated. if we got rid of the federal reserve, we wouldn't have the national debt. the national debt is owed to the federal reserve and they control our economy, this is not debated against by any cpa that understands the actual inner workings of our monetary system.

back before there was paper money a man was gauged by his willingness to build a home with his own two hands and provide meat for the table, help keep the farm up and provide protection to their families from enemies. now if a guy isn't in the position to work as a slave for another person for his dowry, he is no excuse for a man. they are going to show this very astutely when this crises gets to it's lowest peak.

you're very intelligent lulu, but i truly believe that people should learn from a young age how to pick the man/woman of their dreams and should love each other and the man should protect her from all that's bad and provide her with food, clothing and shelter and the woman should take care of him the best she can with food, keeping the family going straight and the children taken care of. when we decided to use this monetary system, women could pay men to do these things for them, the money messed up the family. like wise the man could pay for these things from women. usually, women could get a guy to do these things for them by just flirting, but guys had to fall to acting like desperate fools if they didn't have the money. my conclusion is that surplus of money or the lack thereof breeds greed, prostitution, dereliction, deviation from the norms.

it's true, last gao report said we owe 54 trillion dollars. how we gonna throw more debt at that and bring it down?

yep, that's what it is and you are falling straight into my trap darling MUUAAAAHHHHAAAAAAHHHAAAHHAAHHHAAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!

remember, when i invited you to come but you said you had some NWO business you had to take care of.

yesterday at my house on my karaoke stage

in fact, the more guns get outlawed, the more they will be able to criminalize anyone that doesn't agree with the ban. the more criminals, the more arrests, the more money the jails will bring in. it's all a money game based on greed.

i dont expect women to agree with that. just like i don't expect a drunk person to see that they aren't fit to drive. i have talked to many women who see my point and agree with it. they are the ones that are more informed of why this happens.

the words from the song "when a man loves a woman" comes to mind at the moment. i have personally watched men on this forum fall all over thereselves when one of these women flirt with them just a bit. these guys will even change their opinions on a subject to match the opinion of the woman that is flirting with him. that is power that has to be regulated. there are men that will absolutely dismiss truths because his woman told him to do so. the man can be headstrong in the truth about the subject and even surround himself with other guys with like minds, but if the woman wants him to, he'll look everyone of those guys in the eye and tell them they are nuts.

women are still succeptable to being misled. in fact, they are more succeptible to it these days than ever because they want to believe what people say if they say it just right to them, men have become very feminine and are succeptible to the same things now. the roman empire fell after women were given the right to their own dowry. man is a servant to money because women realized that money could get them things that they wanted. if women didn't want money, men would not slave for it.

i bet they use the same speech writers.

the interesting thing is, our bible tells us basically the same thing. it warns of letting women get to far ahead of themselves. the bible itself says that the man is the master and the woman must obey. tell me you would hate that situation. ha....

i'd rather err on the side of caution. but no one can dispute how money is made. ron paul put it out there in the congressional meeting for ben bernanke to dispute and ben didn't dispute it. there have been court cases where the plaintiff won becuase the money was fake and derived out of thin air. jerome daly vs. first national bank of montgomery is one of them. if anyone disputes that fake money isn't bad for our economy i would have no choice but to realize that they are just not informed and will not let themselves be informed. we have to realize, some people are afraid to know what's really going on. they will argue with you till they are blue in the face, won't do the research, all because they don't really want to know about it. ostrich with his head stuck in the sand syndrome. they think that if they don't know about it, it won't effect them.