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Topic: Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out here it is folks
think2deep's photo
Thu 03/12/09 11:01 AM
Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
GunLaws.com
3-12-9

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."


Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.


The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk

A partial list of gun rights groups:

Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
http://www.jpfo.org/

FREEDOM=GUNS
http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm

National Rifle Association
http://www.nra.org/

Second Amendment Committee
http://www.libertygunrights.com/

Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/

Second Amendment Sisters
http://www.2asisters.org/

Women Against Gun Control
http://www.wagc.com/

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 03/12/09 11:08 AM
the Only reason they Pick these is Because they Look Scary! Truth is a .22 Will Kill a Person as easy as a .50!

no photo
Thu 03/12/09 11:10 AM
WHAT ABOUT BLACK POWDER GUNS....

tn_hillbilly_69's photo
Thu 03/12/09 04:38 PM
I've got one that's on the list. I saw a whole lot of others that are on it at a gunshow this weekend.

InvictusV's photo
Thu 03/12/09 05:46 PM
Shotguns? what the hell is that about?

AndrewAV's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:01 PM
America, welcome to california.

We've had 99% of those (but wtf with the shotgun thing?) for a while.

I can support some of this - nobody needs a .50 sniper rifle with a lethal range of 2 miles - but a lot of this has me pissed. Why the hell can my handgun only have 10+1? I'd kill to be able to have an XD-M for the fatter grip but no, I can only have 10 in the clip.

TenTigers's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:23 PM
Pistol-Grip-Pump in my lap at ALL times!!!!




I was raised in the hood called what the dif? what the..
The brothers in the hood be Chivalrous
So i rest defense on my ligaments
Pistol grip pump on my lap, riskin it
Full life living it, never giving it back
Too late for slipping, so slack...up
On my lap its on your lips so track shot
A steel **** more clip for pump but
All im saying there aint no question who the man is
In my civic or in this showbiz
I **** a fool, kill the fool
Come on what you say?
i think i can take care of all you mutha****az don't delay right away

Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Fools be jackin' other fools, but they ain't be jackin mine!

Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times, right?
Cause tricks be out for your blind side
Never understood it, but remember i showed you
That in the nineties you gotta look over your shoulder, strap
Well that ain't nothin' but the intent of gettin high
And a cop giving you **** for just passing you by
If your ever in trouble or on the double best to call your pals
If you ain't got none, *****, I got a million styles!
Whose around me?
Are we getting along? we family, we better be
We got your back, we got your back kid
Just dont be pointing one of them guns, aiight man...

Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Fools be jackin' other fools, but they ain't be jackin mine!
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Fools be jackin' other fools, but they ain't be jackin mine!

Rhymin' iz a sinch, sonava*****, I'm rich!
But that don't mean you can get me, cuz all my peoplez is pimps!
Playaz, hustlaz, pimpz, all been through the filter...
I hang wit' my doggz man, **** a gorilla
Iller, coddaba, hilla, bings...
Show me have a enough steam, to blow me up, run up, what up, shutup!
A trick get the buck-shotz
Your daughter get the luv, a lot, yer outtie, at the cemetary...
Man, she loves me, and not a single solitary, witness, to the party
And if you didn't know, should've asked somebody...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times!!!

Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Fools be jackin' other fools, but they ain't be jackin mine!
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Pistol grip pump on my lap at all times...
Fools be jackin' other fools, but they ain't be jackin mine!

Pistol grip pump
Pistol grip pump
Pistol grip pump
Yeah...
Pistol grip pump
Pistol grip pump
Pistol grip pump
Ay man, Ay...

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:24 PM
wtf???

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:24 PM
laugh Phony balognelaugh

InvictusV's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:27 PM

laugh Phony balognelaugh


No bologna in hell?

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:29 PM


laugh Phony balognelaugh


No bologna in hell?
laugh No bologna in this threadlaugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:33 PM



laugh Phony balognelaugh


No bologna in hell?
laugh No bologna in this threadlaugh



just alot of....ok never mind...i'll be good lol

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:34 PM




laugh Phony balognelaugh


No bologna in hell?
laugh No bologna in this threadlaugh



just alot of....ok never mind...i'll be good lol




laugh I think you may be rightlaugh

TenTigers's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:56 PM
WARNING!!! Contains bad werdz...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstb6yvIKNg

nogames39's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:34 PM
Edited by nogames39 on Thu 03/12/09 09:35 PM

America, welcome to california.

We've had 99% of those (but wtf with the shotgun thing?) for a while.

I can support some of this - nobody needs a .50 sniper rifle with a lethal range of 2 miles - but a lot of this has me pissed. Why the hell can my handgun only have 10+1? I'd kill to be able to have an XD-M for the fatter grip but no, I can only have 10 in the clip.


You'd want 50 cal, because with armor piercing ammo it can knock the tracks off the tank or a lighter vehicles. It will also go through light armor, that would be impervious to even an 7,62 or 308. It's range makes for better ambush from a point that can provide an escape route, if one can put a distance between himself and the oppression forces.

This wouldn't apply if you don't agree with the way founding fathers were seeing the purpose of 2nd amendment.

raiderfan_32's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:47 PM


America, welcome to california.

We've had 99% of those (but wtf with the shotgun thing?) for a while.

I can support some of this - nobody needs a .50 sniper rifle with a lethal range of 2 miles - but a lot of this has me pissed. Why the hell can my handgun only have 10+1? I'd kill to be able to have an XD-M for the fatter grip but no, I can only have 10 in the clip.


You'd want 50 cal, because with armor piercing ammo it can knock the tracks off the tank or a lighter vehicles. It will also go through light armor, that would be impervious to even an 7,62 or 308. It's range makes for better ambush from a point that can provide an escape route, if one can put a distance between himself and the oppression forces.

This wouldn't apply if you don't agree with the way founding fathers were seeing the purpose of 2nd amendment.


yeah and did you see the way that one dude wrecked shop with that barret 50 in the last Rambo? Pretty sweet..

for real though, the guy that goes out and buys a .50bmg is like the guy that buys a lamborghini murcelago, which is no less dangerous by the way. and have you priced the fuel for that .50? about $5-6/round.. I don't think there's much reason for the ATF to be concerned about roving gangs toting barret .50's..

the gun bans ( I refuse to call them assault weapons bans) are strictly designed to keep law abiding citizens from owning them..

they don't succeed in getting or keeping guns out of the hands of gangbangers, drug dealers or convicted felons...

trojan horse..

Fanta46's photo
Fri 03/13/09 08:45 AM

Shotguns? what the hell is that about?


That list doesnt exist.
Except in the mind of someone who wishes to drive paranoia into the minds of the uninformed.

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 03/13/09 08:51 AM


Shotguns? what the hell is that about?


That list doesnt exist.
Except in the mind of someone who wishes to drive paranoia into the minds of the uninformed.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Fanta46's photo
Fri 03/13/09 09:16 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 03/13/09 09:18 AM
He didnt even link the article.
And then the Author says, "Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk "

If you need more proof than just my word watch this.
You-tube???? LMAO!!!



OK, I'll ask.
Where's the proof?rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 03/13/09 09:36 AM

He didnt even link the article.
And then the Author says, "Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk "

If you need more proof than just my word watch this.
You-tube???? LMAO!!!



OK, I'll ask.
Where's the proof?rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl




Lou Dobbs is the Only integrity that CNN Has!

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