i'd go for 23-32 range, though i believe there are exceptions. I don't really believe in hard and fast rules in dating. If a girl fits me perfectly, and is 38 or 19 i dont see myself turning it down, it just means differnt problems. Though usually there are far far more problems with girls under 24, because they generally want differnt things. usually 19-21 is concerts, light dating and hanging out. 22-24 is bars and pre final relastionship, and 25-30 is when most people are ready to settle down, and get serious. Though everyone will say they are serious, it's not that true. though i've found plenty that are 28 and still into the bar thing and the casual dating, and a few that are in their early 20's that are ready for a family, and only want one guy. One thing is for sure. having kids sure speeds that up for most.

100/100 is 200% effort. That means it's just 2 seperate people that are together, apparetly putting there indiviaul efforts tword being together.

A relastionship is 2 people, working together twords being together. thus working as 1 entity, with a total of 100%.

The differnce is doing your own thing and working together. Compatability means it's the same thing. Being completed and such simply means that you found the person who naturally fills in your weakness's, which is can be either working together or just the person. 2 people can both be messy, and one can learn to clean or you can find someone who is naturally clean when your messy. The work in a relastionships always tends to be compensating for the things you lack that the other needs. that being said, change is part of a relastionship, and if miscommunication is why couples grow apart, its probly because they are changing the oposite way there sig other wants em to.

I think need is when you have lots of expectations and little idea's of what you want in people, and call them standards. Like they act a certin way, they look a certin way, and have these things but not these things.

I think want is when your open to anyone, but tend to go for the person who fits you, even if there not the prettiest, or have a few differnt things they like, or are the way you imagined they would be. Mostly because your not spending your time thinking of the perfect gf/bf or expecting to find it by searching for everything.

That being said, i've noticed people who desperately want a bf/gf are usually far more picky, as they are trying to either replace a relastionship that failed or waiting for something that maybie only 2-3 people on this earth can realisiticly fill.

I do however believe that the whole romantic, 50/50 thing is good. I think when you find someone that fits pretty good, you naturally want to spend alot of time with them. The amount tends to depend on the person. realisiticly a 'healthy' relastionship is 40/40 and 20 percent working tword the same thing. at marrage it is suppose to increase. Yet i've seen lots of happy unhealthy relastionships and plenty of miserably failed healthy ones. Infact, i would say i've seen more success's in unhealthy relastionships. It's why i never try to follow a guideline and just go with it, if its working. Though i think anyone would answer yes to your question.

nteresting, i'm glad to see so many reply's to this topic. Atleast your society has come far enough where it can be safely discussed in the open. I just got done reading this match me test thingy where the very first question is would you consider dating someone that believed in a nature based religion. It's funny how well that filters out people. I wont say if i am or not, but thats because i've witnessed pretty bad persecution when i was 6.

either way, Marry Meet! hehe

I agree! My grampa was like that. I never once got annoyed with him talking about god, because he never pushed it on me.

I think most of us just get pissy when we hear about how many people 'stood in your way' to being saved, and how many people downed your religion. Mainly because i've never heard of a pagan, a buddahist, a toaist, confusionist or a shintoist ever try to convert or convince someone there was is the only right way. It's not really exclusive to christians, cause muslems and jews are notorious for doing the same thing in differnt ways.

I think believing in something is whats important. If we all could actually get past the wanting to always be right, and the power of our religions, we would be a happier world. For power is always only an illusion.

Christians hate it when it's refered to as christian mythology -Joseph Cambel.

stopping in to say hi, and see how everyone is!

You found out the very second you make anything offical with another girl. Then every hot girl you ever talked to comes out of the woodwork and says they totally wanted to be with you. I don't understand why it's so hard to just say 'hey i like you' but apparently girls suck at that sort of thing.

it makes me believe that a major part of compatability is being able to say you like the person you with....i'm so doomed....

hey storm, mrs emily, arcade, how is everyone?

hey all. been a bit. going to temporarily pull myself from the game. Though i'll still try to come in and hang out. I might of found someone. I know its probly wise to stay on the market and stuff, but i'm not that type of guy. (i'm not wise!). So until this crashes and burns, or whatever, i'm suspended from the current market.

I had one of those. She hurt me really bad. It wasn't really chemistry. it was her enjoying me saying sweet things to her. It was her wanting to be loved. In the end, we wernt right for eachother. Not because i didnt try, but because a relastionship and love is a commitment. even if we where perfect for eachother, she didnt want to make the commitment, so it would fail. It sucked. about 8 months before that i got dumped about the same month my dad died, while finding out i was being cheated on. Hard to get over that stuff. Right now, i just started dating a girl who i feel i'm truly compatable with. She is as into me, as i am into her. She hasn't dated in a bit, and i took the break, so neither have i. Things are going insanely well. I dont know why this has worked out, as its already passed the problems that i had in the previous relastionships, but it is working nicely. I didnt get to where i am by looking over my shoulder at the past. I did it by going back to being comfortable being single, and looking forward. It was only then i noticed someone just like me was walking the same path.

Yor frustration doesn't lie in finding a good man, it's finding the right one for you. Any man will commit to the right woman. It takes time, and effort of course, but we are all so very differnt. My GF and I where talking about this. I've talked to quite a few women, and dated a nice chunk and so has she. Emotions aside, we both wrote down what a perfect partner would be, before we even met. When we shared it, we had to laugh quite a bit. The very attributes she wanted, that she never found in others, she found in me. Another is i'm into swords, video games, anime, nature and martial arts. These are all things i've always felt i had to sacrafice or atleast do on my own when in a relastionship, as i've never met a girl who was into all the same things. Since she is, we tend to have to many things we want to do together. Enough that it would probly take a lifetime to do. That being said, i had one of the most fun times in the last year, by doing nothing but taking a stroll in the park with her.

Now here is the kicker. I aint pretty, we are both slightly overweight, and we both had long term massivly failed relastionships in the past. We both have had lots of 'been dumped'. It isn't that we suck, it's that we are blueberry pie. For no guys wanted her for the exact reasons i wanted her. The guys she was with didn't like her playing with swords, or video games or didnt like anime or her religion, where i'm the same religion, and love those things about her.

See, blueberry pie is just the pie that only a few people want. Where most like apple cobler, or pumpkin pie, etc. There's nothing wrong with the blueberry pie, it's just people prefer something else. But the thing about blueberry pie is that when someone comes along who likes blueberry pie, they tend to be the same as you. Apple cobler relastionships turn into normal average familys. Blueberry pie relastionships have movies based on them.

It's my expierence that good guys are there. Most girls pass them up. i've been passed up quite a bit. Of course if your defintion of a decent guy being that he looks good, makes 100k/year, is polite and have good maners, and no bad history or anything, then your trying to find the best of the apple cobler. I dont think those guys go to this site. If our just looking for a good guy who can love you, and will do the right thing, then there are plenty of those.

off to the beach, laters everyone!

bastard! I want flowers!

Hey storm, emily, tan, badgirl, 2.charles

Ohhhh new show on. Yay! Be back in 24 minutes.

*places giant flashing arrows pointing at storm*

Hi Storm!!!!

....that approves of incest apparently...

I'm the crazy younger brother who is really smart, and hides it through his aloof attitude, but ends up saying words of wisdom at the end of the movie...

Hehe, i know someone from there, but you wouldn't want to invite them.

I'm off for dinner, bbl!!

Yea, that does sound pretty cool. What state is this in?

I good. I'm just relaxing after a long hard day of playing catch up.