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Not sure if your original meaning of this thread or your point so too speak, sorry if my response is in left field.
But when we "die" in this world, we will go too "hell". For hell is nothing more then the holding place of the dead, and in our language these days we refer too that as the grave. Hell will give up it's dead for judgment - Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works Hell is only temporary, it is not eternal. Revelation 20:14 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. |
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Great morning!
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Hello, cowboy for real? Just kidding... What's your name? I see you are active in this group..a lot of topics... I had a lot to catch up Howdy, sorry for a late response lol. But my real name is Gregory Hale eg., the GH in my nic lol. And you're welcome for the warm welcome :) hope you find all you're in search of here. |
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Great morning!
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Hi to everyone, hope to find new friends in here, I see this is a christian singles chat... Anyone here now? Howdy :D |
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CowboyGH
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I am have an African background but been living in the states for years now . Just wondering and thinking Loud why do Africans have bad perceptions about gay people and think all gay people will go to hell . Last time I saw a documentary on gay in Africa country and how they were burnt alive . It was so pathetic and disheartening . Does god hate gay people as they say ? Please some one help me out here . I am African but Afriad to show up that am gay and I can't do that anytime I go back to for my charity work It's not just an "african" thing that homosexuality is wrong in the eys of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites And for your refrence too how in the Africa country they hate gays and even on your reference too them being burned alive, Matthew 7:1-3 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? |
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Judge not?
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CowboyGH
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. jesus did not say not to judge, he says to judge with righteous judgment john 7 23"If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath? 24"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." but you are correct in the differences, there is judgment of our soul which is left to God and there is judgment of actions and words,, which we must have in order to guide our own choices Jesus immediate called her action 'sin' after saving the adulteress,, although he said he was not condemning her two types of judgment,,judging her action(calling sin sin} and judging her soul{not condemning her} it is very important too keep verses in context. I have included a few verses prior too the "John 7:23" verse. This verse is in context with making an "opinion" and not on an eternal level. And if you connect the two verses' meaning, God is telling us too judge people with a righteous heart as we will be judged as we judge others. John 7 19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? 20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee? 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. 23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day? 24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. |
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Judge not?
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. |
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Your my savour!
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Lord, despite of many trials in my life i know ur always there for me. i trusted You a lot. please guide me cause im applying for work. teach me where is the right way for me. i love you a Lord. and thank you always. amen :) |
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Observe and have faith
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II Timothy 3:1-5, NIV. "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them." I personally haven't lived through a time when I didn't see these things,, but it seems more and more that these things are being promoted as the goal of the culture ,,,,,still just observing and having faith for no one knows the day nor the hour amen :) just keep your eye on the end :) |
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There truly is none, just discussion here my friend. Salvation is only found through Jesus Christ. You say "Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross". What exactly did Jesus "finish"? He finished the old covenant, the last and remaining prophecy of the old covenant. And as he has told us, these laws remain true until all is fullfilled. Thus further showing the finish of the old covenant/testament. Jesus Christ is God of Gods, Lord of Lords. It will be written on his crown if I'm not mistaken on exactly what rev says bout it lol. God bless you my friend.
The intent of my meaning I think you got, but I don't think Jesus "finished the old covenant", my friend. He "replaced" it and became the mediator of a BETTER Covenant with BETTER Promises. (Hebrews 8:6) Oh. The Old was Perfect and Righteous and Good in EVERY WAY. But we could not keep it. Only our Lord Jesus could and only through our Lord Jesus could we. Praise the Lord! God Bless you, to my friend! Matthew 5:17-20 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Then this is later confirmed when - John 19:30 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. |
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Your "john 20:17" mention of a verse boils down too the following verse I do believe.
Galatians 3:26 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. I couldn't find the exact verse tonight as again it's late and not an excuse lol but I'm tired. And couldn't find the exact verse I'm looking for. But we are "children" of God through Jesus Christ. "Us" one's that are not isrealites are "abopted" by God. If needed tomorrow after you respond too this thread or maybe prior if I find it, a verse that say specifically what I'm saying about us being adopted by God regardless of being Jew or not. Because Heaven is first given too the Jew(s). We are the "outsiders" being adopted by God. Your statement that our Lord Jesus referred to God as "our" God is in John 20:17. I thought you were looking for a reference to that effect. 17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and YOUR Father; and to my God, and YOUR God." The verse I was looking for in reference too the one I couldn't think of was - Ephesians 1:5 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will 17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and YOUR Father; and to my God, and YOUR God." This is true because of Jesus saying the following - John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one. They are one "God", one "authority" over us. They don't bicker, argue, and fight with one another. They have the same wills, desires, and wishes for us. That is indeed what the origin words of this John verse is in reference too. |
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I am Christian if you will, but don't follow, obey, or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach. Be Careful... You seem to be entering into the realm of the Cults and their weird belief systems. Once you say that you "don't follow, obey or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach" - I immediately look for "strange doctrines" or "unprofitable questions" which are outside the purview of Biblical Christianity which lead gullible Christians astray and away from the Faith. So figured I'd ask a question that mainly puts me apart from the different beliefs.
Who is our God. Not who is God, but who is specifically our God? I personally believe Jesus too be God almighty. Jesus never refers to us specifically as brother's too him, yet he proclaims to "God". But he himself claims too be God as I believe and know from reading NT too the OT. Jesus Christ is the one whom created us, molded us, and made everything in existence from Heaven to Earth to below Earth. Specifically referring to Genesis 2 and multiple accounts of his spoken remarks in the NT of creating different person(s). Just curious what every one else thinks as it's normally said Jesus being the son of God. There really shouldn't be any question as to the Godhead. Neither should there be any question as to our Salvation that it is all by Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross. These 2 Doctrines are Basic and Fundamental. The "Cults" like to tamper with these very important Doctrines, but we must never compromise the Deity of Christ - nor God's Salvation Plan for mankind - that it is all by Jesus - and all we are required to do is to "Believe." John 1:1-14 1 John 5:7 John 20: 30-31 But from what I know or have read Jesus doesn't ever refer too his God/father as ours, yet proclaims too be our God, our creator, ect. Just curious what you all think on this and hopefully bring up a good discussion with verses too back one's thoughts/beliefs. God bless you, us all :D
John 20:17 . John 20:17 This verse as follows - John 20:17 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Is true because of - Philippians 2:7 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men He wasn't on Earth too be "worshipped". He was here too fulfill the final prophecies of the OT/old covenant and give us the new signed in his blood. Deuteronomy 10:17 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward Through the other/rest of the verse(s) he refers too "his" father as just that, "his" father. Same with "his" God. He doesn't refer to us as brothers/sisters on an eternal level. He was "humiliating" himself and speaking too us on our level, trying to make a personal relationship. Not a above all and nothing else matter level, but yet an understanding "equal" level at this form of communication. |
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I am Christian if you will, but don't follow, obey, or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach. Be Careful... You seem to be entering into the realm of the Cults and their weird belief systems. Once you say that you "don't follow, obey or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach" - I immediately look for "strange doctrines" or "unprofitable questions" which are outside the purview of Biblical Christianity which lead gullible Christians astray and away from the Faith. So figured I'd ask a question that mainly puts me apart from the different beliefs.
Who is our God. Not who is God, but who is specifically our God? I personally believe Jesus too be God almighty. Jesus never refers to us specifically as brother's too him, yet he proclaims to "God". But he himself claims too be God as I believe and know from reading NT too the OT. Jesus Christ is the one whom created us, molded us, and made everything in existence from Heaven to Earth to below Earth. Specifically referring to Genesis 2 and multiple accounts of his spoken remarks in the NT of creating different person(s). Just curious what every one else thinks as it's normally said Jesus being the son of God. There really shouldn't be any question as to the Godhead. Neither should there be any question as to our Salvation that it is all by Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross. These 2 Doctrines are Basic and Fundamental. The "Cults" like to tamper with these very important Doctrines, but we must never compromise the Deity of Christ - nor God's Salvation Plan for mankind - that it is all by Jesus - and all we are required to do is to "Believe." John 1:1-14 1 John 5:7 John 20: 30-31 But from what I know or have read Jesus doesn't ever refer too his God/father as ours, yet proclaims too be our God, our creator, ect. Just curious what you all think on this and hopefully bring up a good discussion with verses too back one's thoughts/beliefs. God bless you, us all :D
John 20:17 . There really shouldn't be any question as to the Godhead. Neither should there be any question as to our Salvation that it is all by Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross. There truly is none, just discussion here my friend. Salvation is only found through Jesus Christ. You say "Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross". What exactly did Jesus "finish"? He finished the old covenant, the last and remaining prophecy of the old covenant. And as he has told us, these laws remain true until all is fullfilled. Thus further showing the finish of the old covenant/testament. Jesus Christ is God of Gods, Lord of Lords. It will be written on his crown if I'm not mistaken on exactly what rev says bout it lol. God bless you my friend. |
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What about the the first commandment? Deuteronomy 5:6 I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. Dear CowboyGH, I love your posts. You have so much to give. God bless you! This is a beautiful verse. It's a deminstation of Jesus's action(s)/work(s) before he was known as "Jesus". Displaying that he is the one who he claims too be. The one that created us, as he specifically says. Show's exactly why some OT verses say either "God" or "Lord God". The reference is of course from a "story" in the OT. Yet here Jesus from the NT is claiming he was the one whom did it. It's because it was Jesus Christ himself "LORD God". |
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I am Christian if you will, but don't follow, obey, or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach. Be Careful... You seem to be entering into the realm of the Cults and their weird belief systems. Once you say that you "don't follow, obey or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach" - I immediately look for "strange doctrines" or "unprofitable questions" which are outside the purview of Biblical Christianity which lead gullible Christians astray and away from the Faith. So figured I'd ask a question that mainly puts me apart from the different beliefs.
Who is our God. Not who is God, but who is specifically our God? I personally believe Jesus too be God almighty. Jesus never refers to us specifically as brother's too him, yet he proclaims to "God". But he himself claims too be God as I believe and know from reading NT too the OT. Jesus Christ is the one whom created us, molded us, and made everything in existence from Heaven to Earth to below Earth. Specifically referring to Genesis 2 and multiple accounts of his spoken remarks in the NT of creating different person(s). Just curious what every one else thinks as it's normally said Jesus being the son of God. There really shouldn't be any question as to the Godhead. Neither should there be any question as to our Salvation that it is all by Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross. These 2 Doctrines are Basic and Fundamental. The "Cults" like to tamper with these very important Doctrines, but we must never compromise the Deity of Christ - nor God's Salvation Plan for mankind - that it is all by Jesus - and all we are required to do is to "Believe." John 1:1-14 1 John 5:7 John 20: 30-31 But from what I know or have read Jesus doesn't ever refer too his God/father as ours, yet proclaims too be our God, our creator, ect. Just curious what you all think on this and hopefully bring up a good discussion with verses too back one's thoughts/beliefs. God bless you, us all :D
John 20:17 . Your "john 20:17" mention of a verse boils down too the following verse I do believe. Galatians 3:26 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. I couldn't find the exact verse tonight as again it's late and not an excuse lol but I'm tired. And couldn't find the exact verse I'm looking for. But we are "children" of God through Jesus Christ. "Us" one's that are not isrealites are "abopted" by God. If needed tomorrow after you respond too this thread or maybe prior if I find it, a verse that say specifically what I'm saying about us being adopted by God regardless of being Jew or not. Because Heaven is first given too the Jew(s). We are the "outsiders" being adopted by God. |
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I am Christian if you will, but don't follow, obey, or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach. Be Careful... You seem to be entering into the realm of the Cults and their weird belief systems. Once you say that you "don't follow, obey or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach" - I immediately look for "strange doctrines" or "unprofitable questions" which are outside the purview of Biblical Christianity which lead gullible Christians astray and away from the Faith. So figured I'd ask a question that mainly puts me apart from the different beliefs.
Who is our God. Not who is God, but who is specifically our God? I personally believe Jesus too be God almighty. Jesus never refers to us specifically as brother's too him, yet he proclaims to "God". But he himself claims too be God as I believe and know from reading NT too the OT. Jesus Christ is the one whom created us, molded us, and made everything in existence from Heaven to Earth to below Earth. Specifically referring to Genesis 2 and multiple accounts of his spoken remarks in the NT of creating different person(s). Just curious what every one else thinks as it's normally said Jesus being the son of God. There really shouldn't be any question as to the Godhead. Neither should there be any question as to our Salvation that it is all by Faith in the finished work of Jesus at the Cross. These 2 Doctrines are Basic and Fundamental. The "Cults" like to tamper with these very important Doctrines, but we must never compromise the Deity of Christ - nor God's Salvation Plan for mankind - that it is all by Jesus - and all we are required to do is to "Believe." John 1:1-14 1 John 5:7 John 20: 30-31 But from what I know or have read Jesus doesn't ever refer too his God/father as ours, yet proclaims too be our God, our creator, ect. Just curious what you all think on this and hopefully bring up a good discussion with verses too back one's thoughts/beliefs. God bless you, us all :D
John 20:17 . 1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV) 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Sorry for my laziness. It's late by the time I got back too the computer. But I'm going too go out on a lim and say this "these three are one" is used in the same context/meaning of when Jesus referred too him and his father being "one" in the following verse. John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one. And the word(s) tranlated too this are referring to wills, desires, ententions, ect. Not specifically it's literal meaning eg., physical aspects. So if I'm wrong, please don't express such and show/display such meanings/purposes. I'll do the same for the referred verses if nececassary. |
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Nice Christian man
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Hello! My name is Gherman. I am seeking christian friendship to speak, Then seak Jesus Christ my friend. There will be no personal interventions or anything added except what our God Jesus Christ wants. Read up and lean what he wishes my friend and you'll have every answer too every question ever presented. |
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Well.... Now.... 
'Do as I say' ... Didn't work out well. So he is shooting for 'do as I do' & 'think like I tell you yo think'.... If he really cared...he would just give them all of Vatican City..ya know..like Europe gave & still is. Better still.. knock down the Vatican walls... Even better, he could of lead a campaign to save Christians from that region & sponsored & protected them. And called on all Roman Catholics to help... Ya know.. Like do his job, he was ELECTED to do. Better still.. knock down the Vatican walls... Even better, he could of lead a campaign to save Christians from that region & sponsored & protected them. And called on all Roman Catholics to help Sorry if this is kind of off topic or so. But this comment struck me funny. Roman Cahtolics and Christians are nothing of the same. The pope is just another man, another person. There is nothing special about the pope. The scriptures themsevles tell us there is only one mediator between man and God, and that is Jesus Christ. The pope is nothing special besides the peddistal that the Roman Catholics put him on. There is absolutely no need for the pope or any other "mediator" between us and God, for Jesus was just that and he gave us all the knowledge we need to obtain the gift of Heaven and eternal life through his sacrifice on Calvery. |
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Online dating, God's will?
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Can you call someone you met online, God will for you? My question for you is, why not? What's it matter where you meet someone? No God hasn't explicitly said anything bout particularly on line dating as there wasn't such a thing when he was here speaking too us. But just curious why it would be a question bout particularly on line. The Internet is nothing more then a form of communication. |
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Interesting thought
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I am Christian if you will, but don't follow, obey, or entirely believe in any of the denominations and what they teach/preach. So figured I'd ask a question that mainly puts me apart from the different beliefs.
Who is our God. Not who is God, but who is specifically our God? I personally believe Jesus too be God almighty. Jesus never refers to us specifically as brother's too him, yet he proclaims to "God". But he himself claims too be God as I believe and know from reading NT too the OT. Jesus Christ is the one whom created us, molded us, and made everything in existence from Heaven to Earth to below Earth. Specifically referring to Genesis 2 and multiple accounts of his spoken remarks in the NT of creating different person(s). Just curious what every one else thinks as it's normally said Jesus being the son of God. But from what I know or have read Jesus doesn't ever refer too his God/father as ours, yet proclaims too be our God, our creator, ect. Just curious what you all think on this and hopefully bring up a good discussion with verses too back one's thoughts/beliefs. God bless you, us all :D |
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Interracial Dating
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You misunderstood me. I'm not strictly interracial of sorts, I just feel drawn to white men. Everyone is special in their own way! I hope you understand me now? Ok, yeah sure... just was curious :) |
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