God doesn't give you faith. You put the faith in God. Faith comes from you, not God. God reassures you in your faith when you have placed YOUR faith in the right.

Cowboy...no dictionary is needed..all that is needed to prove "to believe is to doubt" is to ask you one question

THE QUESTION:
do you "believe" that you exist or do you "know" that you exist

when aswering the question about your existence.. please only use one of the words "believe" or "know"

I said:

"God had no PART in his sinking."

It's no fun debating with a (censored) but I do it.
Stop taking some of my words and distorting them out of context.

I know I exist. I know God exists. I know the bible to be true.

So what's your point?

so God did allow Peter to almost drown like the babies in the great flood...because the babies also probably didn't have faith

Furthermore, God had no part in his doubt.

Very true. God has no part in his sinking. When he lost the faith in God, he lost God's help and started to sink. If he would have kept the faith in God as Jesus did, he would have walked on the water as Jesus did.

For the love of..

The Great Flood had a lot more to do with human's corruption as a whole, over just the flock of non-believers.

And yes, if Peter, who was with Christ of ALL people, showed he STILL held doubt after SEEING Jesus walk on water..
..yeah, he would have let him drown.

..even you would have if you were God.

Because he's shown you ALL this neat stuff and STILL a rough wind caused you to doubt me.

However.

To doubt is NOT to become an instant 'non-believer'.

No, you're not listening. Peter allowed Petaer to almost drown.

Example -
Someone is drowning, a person throws this person a rope to grab onto so they can pull the person in. The person doesn't grab onto the robe, thus he drowns.

God threw Peter a rope, he didn't grab onto it. Thus he started to sink. If Peter would have kept the faith in God eg., grabbed onto the rope, he would not have started to sink and or almost drown.

if God had no part in his sinking then God wouldn't have anything to do with his faith...DUH

so try and stick by what you post instead of changing back and forth...Cowboy does that more than enough...he doesn't need company

Peter's sinking was because of the LACK of faith. Not because of his faith, but because of the LACK of faith. If he would have kept the faith, he would have walked on the water.

Or in other words, if he would have kept the trust in God to keep him from sinking he would not have.

I'll ignore your DUH comment for now. By, seriously, when you are being shown you are in fact a (censored) try not to make it worse, eh? I may not be so forgivable next time.

God was and is the source of His faith. His faith gave him the power and ability to commit said act of walking on water.

When that faith was shaken, his power was lost - because the power God gave to him, through faith, was also shaken. As such, he sunk.

Do you still not see it?



Says the man who I've openly caught changing his own phrases and comments three times already.

Nice.

because to "believe" that you exist would mean that you doubt that you did exist...which points to delusion

the same with a belief in God

How would "believing" I exist mean that I doubt that I exist?

What you believe is what you know.

People believe Abraham Lincoln was a president of the USA
People know Abraham Lincoln was a president of the USA

People believe the world is an oval shape
People know the world is an oval shape.

Believing something and knowing something is the same thing. Just sometimes what you know is not true, but that doesn't mean you didn't know that and or believe that.

Or are you going to tell me you do not believe in what you know? Or that you do not know what you believe?

..no, it really doesn't.

..and it's laughable you believe such.

no it's you that are not conceiving the concept

you keep claiming that GOd didn't not cause peter to sink

I keep asking you to explain step by step how Faith would cause Peter to walk on water


for instance if Peter had Faith....then would Casper the ghost float down and carry him across the water...do little faires sprinkle fairy dust on him and he magically begins to float across the water


if not.....then explain how Faith would cause Peter to walk on Water

I've asked you to chose the word that describe your existence...either "believe" or "know"...you choose "know"

now explain why you didn't choose "believe"

I did.

God is power.
Faith is your connection to God.
Unbridled, unhindered, free-of-doubt faith; is an unbreakable connection to said God.
This type of faith gives mortal men; a 'portion' of Gods power.
I.E. Walk on water.

Peter found his faith shaken by the wind.
This unbridled connection was then broken.
He began to sink.

Such is like the wi-fi.

In your house, this connection is strong.
The further you move from your house.
The link is weakened until, inevitably it is broken.

Because if he would have kept entire faith in God that he would walk on the water, he would have. God would not allow his faith to be in vein. He would have rewarded his faith through allowing him to walk on the water. But as soon as he lost that faith, he lost God's help.

Because I know and I know because I believe. If I didn't believe, I would not have known.

If you do not believe playing with fire will get you burned, then you do not know playing with fire will get you burned.

If you do not know playing with fire will get you bored, then you do not believe playing with fire will get you burned.