Topic: I just HAVE to do it....
Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:49 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 02/11/12 10:49 AM



thats good

to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner,,,,


No one ever knows what is round the corner

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:49 AM



You got that right flap jack!



I presume that means something nice in American Jargon



Another term for pancake or griddle cake

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:50 AM




You got that right flap jack!



I presume that means something nice in American Jargon



Another term for pancake or griddle cake


And in the context you used it?

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:54 AM




thats good

to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner,,,,


No one ever knows what is round the corner


well, I guess that defeats the purpose of 'experience' then

its how we learn, and after we learn, we can share and teach others,,,,

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:57 AM





thats good

to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner,,,,


No one ever knows what is round the corner


well, I guess that defeats the purpose of 'experience' then

its how we learn, and after we learn, we can share and teach others,,,,



Apply your own words to Parent/Children being Friends.


"to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner"

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/11/12 10:59 AM






thats good

to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner,,,,


No one ever knows what is round the corner


well, I guess that defeats the purpose of 'experience' then

its how we learn, and after we learn, we can share and teach others,,,,



Apply your own words to Parent/Children being Friends.


"to me, best friends are on too equal a playing field to 'guide' the other anywhere,, they are both on the same spot in the path,,,,,neither have a clue whats around the corner"




right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER

so its not likely one will GUIDE the other , when they are just as unsure of where to go



on the contrary, parents have hopefully had the experiences and seen the consequences(good and bad) of certain choices and paths that their children have yet to make a decision about

so parents can be GUIDES, because they know the terrain a bit better than their children,,, Unlike a childs peers or 'friends'

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 11:06 AM





right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 02/11/12 11:10 AM






right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou



laugh laugh

some people think they are superior to their children...poor kids!

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 11:14 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 02/11/12 11:18 AM







right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou



laugh laugh

some people think they are superior to their children...poor kids!


It is said one can learn something new every day.

I have even learned from some people here on mingle but sadly it only confirmed my suspicions..laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/11/12 11:22 AM







right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou



laugh laugh

some people think they are superior to their children...poor kids!



superior = better,,, no

if superior = accepting more responsibility and therefore more privilege,,,, YES

if superior = having superior LIFE ESPERIENCE (more years, more situations ,,etc,,')

YES


or else we could have been amoebas and just spit out fully grown and responsible adults who absorb our knowledge and expeirence through osmosis and who are truly our EQUAL,,,,,


but that AINT happenin,,,,lol

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 02/11/12 11:29 AM








right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou



laugh laugh

some people think they are superior to their children...poor kids!


It is said one can learn something new every day.

I have even learned from some people here on mingle but sadly it only confirmed my suspicions..laugh


Scary, I know!! laugh

DaddyTime's photo
Sat 02/11/12 12:43 PM
Edited by DaddyTime on Sat 02/11/12 12:55 PM








right

best friends, imho, are walking BESIDE each other, experiencing similar things and learning similar lessons TOGETHER




So here I am walking with my children who also happen to my best friends.......????

I think I will get out here before you do my head in..drinker waving flowerforyou



laugh laugh

some people think they are superior to their children...poor kids!



superior = better,,, no

if superior = accepting more responsibility and therefore more privilege,,,, YES

if superior = having superior LIFE ESPERIENCE (more years, more situations ,,etc,,')

YES


or else we could have been amoebas and just spit out fully grown and responsible adults who absorb our knowledge and expeirence through osmosis and who are truly our EQUAL,,,,,


but that AINT happenin,,,,lol


What you absorb only you see as knowledge, and experience does not = intelligence. You teach you're children you're views and beliefs , force them on them, as if you are right when you honestly have no clue whats right or wrong because no one does.

Since no one knows no one should force anything on a child,
they will make their choices when they are older.

We are simply here to offer love and guidance like op says above.

In a lot of ways our children are better then us, as they have no alternative motive, nothing they do can be bad, as they do not know
any better they are blank, pure innocence.

As adults we lose all that and get polluted by the world,
we have no right forcing any of our beliefs on our children.

this is why they grow up messed up, mommy and daddy beat them
till they believed certain things, so they are scared to think otherwise and have their own thoughts when they get older.

Might as well just buy a robot and program it, them it will be exactly what you want and you can make it do whatever you please.

A child is not you're slave it is you're responsibility,
you are you're child's slave till its 18. and you should be
thankful for them ever minute of you're life.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 02/11/12 12:48 PM
beautiful and articulately said DaddyTime...

Here is Gibran....from The Prophet
I LOVE this , most hate it...


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

DaddyTime's photo
Sat 02/11/12 12:56 PM

beautiful and articulately said DaddyTime...

Here is Gibran....from The Prophet
I LOVE this , most hate it...


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

DaddyTime's photo
Sat 02/11/12 12:59 PM
I have one question for msharmony,
when you make mistake and mess
up, is it ok for you're husband
to hit you to help teach you a
lesson?

We are all always growing and learning,
and youre husband cares about you and wants
to help guide you and install the right beliefs.

So if you think this is ok to do to you're child,
is it ok to do to you too?

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 01:03 PM

beautiful and articulately said DaddyTime...

Here is Gibran....from The Prophet
I LOVE this , most hate it...


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.

The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.


Never seen that until now...thank you for posting itflowerforyou



I have always taught my children how to think and not what to think..waving

DaddyTime's photo
Sat 02/11/12 01:04 PM


beautiful and articulately said DaddyTime...

Here is Gibran....from The Prophet
I LOVE this , most hate it...


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.

The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.


Never seen that until now...thank you for posting itflowerforyou



I have always taught my children how to think and not what to think..waving


whats the bold code [bold*] [/bold*]?

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 02/11/12 01:07 PM

If we hit anyone (besides our kids) we can go to jail.
If we shoot anyone's property (besides our kids) we can go to jail.

What's wrong with this picture???





Optomistic69's photo
Sat 02/11/12 01:09 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 02/11/12 01:18 PM
Just use b only Daddy Time

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 02/11/12 01:10 PM


beautiful and articulately said DaddyTime...

Here is Gibran....from The Prophet
I LOVE this , most hate it...


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.

The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.


Never seen that until now...thank you for posting itflowerforyou



I have always taught my children how to think and not what to think..waving


A wonderful book.

Kahlil Gibran : The Prophet

http://leb.net/mira/works/prophet/prophet.html