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Topic: I just HAVE to do it....
msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 10:56 AM










being spanked on the GLUTEUS MAXIMUS (one of the most well padded muscles in the body) is not barbaric

being punched would be, being slapped repeatedly about the body might be, being put in a cage would be,,,lol

but I doubt the barbarians are so called because of giving 'spankings'



GLUTEUS MAXIMUS..my arselaugh


Beating a child with a weapon says more about the parent than the child.




yep , it says that parent has chosen spanking as a disciplinary option

LOL....


I was spanked, with a belt,,,(not more times than I can count on one hand,, but it happened)

and my parents were WONDERFUL





You may be a Masochist.bigsmile


or ,, a very loving, 'normal', productive, non violent, respectful, respectable, african american woman,,,,


I'm getting loving, normal, productive, non violent, respectful, respectable.....and stubborn!!laugh

Hey Harmony!!!waving



Hey buddywaving waving


I love my folks man and appreciate every effort and sacrifice they made to give us stability and security and love(even if it was something they were 'supposed' to do, Im able to know how to APPRECIATE It not just with a word but through ACTION)_


so,,,,I guess I am a bit stubborn when folks who dont know them make sweeping judgments about what kind of parents they are based on nothing but knowledge of being 'spanked'


Well, I meant stubborn in a good way:wink: ...and I agree, sweeping judgements about parenting methods are almost always wrong....It is the same with any sweeping judgement one makes about another's relationship with ANYONE....Only the people directly involved know the "total" context of the relationship...flowerforyou



flowerforyou

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Sun 02/12/12 11:07 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/12/12 11:09 AM




spanking is for the purpose of inflicting pain.




for some

for others it is a learning and disciplinary tool


spanking is for the purpose of inflicting pain in the hope that the person being spanked will fear being spanked enough that he will avoid getting caught the next time.





very broadly, any NEGATIVE consequence is 'painful' on either an emotional or physical level

but that doesnt mean the PURPOSE of discipline is the 'pain'


why did nature cause it to hurt so damn much when we put our hand over an open flame? because that 'sensation' of being in discomfort/pain is a great deterrent from doing something that is causing HARM to our body that we may otherwise not realize until after the damage was done

consequences have a purpose, whether they are good or bad, to teach a lesson of some sort,,,



Yes I agree with that. And when you go into a bar and start a fight with some big dude and get your butt kicked you can certainly say the same thing.

When you pull a gun and shoot at the police and get shot back, you can say the same thing.

Consequences.

What would be the point of a spanking if there was no pain? So pain is the objective.

But okay we know the basic idea is painful consequences. But with this applied logic we must now draw a line between a painful spanking and a beating or abuse.

Anytime you make it okay to spank but not okay to abuse or beat a child, you then have to draw the line between the two. It is not black and white.

There are ways to torture people both mentally and physically without causing physical harm to their bodies.

So where do you draw the line with torture? Physical harm to the body? How can you know the mental harm you are inflicting on a person?




msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 11:12 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/12/12 11:37 AM





spanking is for the purpose of inflicting pain.




for some

for others it is a learning and disciplinary tool


spanking is for the purpose of inflicting pain in the hope that the person being spanked will fear being spanked enough that he will avoid getting caught the next time.





very broadly, any NEGATIVE consequence is 'painful' on either an emotional or physical level

but that doesnt mean the PURPOSE of discipline is the 'pain'


why did nature cause it to hurt so damn much when we put our hand over an open flame? because that 'sensation' of being in discomfort/pain is a great deterrent from doing something that is causing HARM to our body that we may otherwise not realize until after the damage was done

consequences have a purpose, whether they are good or bad, to teach a lesson of some sort,,,



Yes I agree with that. And when you go into a bar and start a fight with some big dude and get your butt kicked you can certainly say the same thing.

When you pull a gun and shoot at the police and get shot back, you can say the same thing.

Consequences.

What would be the point of a spanking if there was no pain? So pain is the objective.

But okay we know the basic idea is painful consequences. But this applied logic must now draw a line between a painful spanking and a beating or abuse.

Anytime you make it okay to spank but not okay to abuse or beat a child, you then have to draw the line between the two. It is not black and white.

There are ways to torture people both mentally and physically without causing physical harm to their bodies.

So where do you draw the line with torture? Physical harm to the body? How can you know the mental harm you are inflicting on a person?







great questions and points

the line between spanking and abuse is in its purpose

if its purpose is to harm, than it could happen at any time for any reason


if its purpose is to guide, than it should be a well explained CONSEQUENCE that is being CONSISTENTLY followed through upon for a particular offense


I think if an adult just hauls off hitting on kids whenever they are angry , that is abusive

I think if an adult rewards good behavior, supports their children financially and emotionally, takes effort and time to guide and teach their children wherever possible, and has guidelines and CONSEQUENCES that are lovingly explained to their child

follow through on those consequences(up to and including spanking), is merely disciplinary consistency,


spanking , is a (previously thought out)response to a bad choice
abuse is merely a (impulsive and immediate) reaction to anger

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:01 PM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Sun 02/12/12 05:03 PM


indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.



DaddyTime's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:03 PM



indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

No assumptions are being made.
You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is jumping to any conclusions.





:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:11 PM



indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:20 PM




indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:21 PM
Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.



RELEVANT WORDS

'in my family'

your family is not mine or everyone elses,,,,

DaddyTime's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:22 PM




indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


most of those hit were no where near her a$$,
they were on her legs on her arms even in her
face at the end, only maybe 2 of those hits
were on here a$$.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:23 PM





indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?

DaddyTime's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:24 PM
Edited by DaddyTime on Sun 02/12/12 05:29 PM






indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


So um you like spankings eh, me to just not on children.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:24 PM





indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


most of those hit were no where near her a$$,
they were on her legs on her arms even in her
face at the end, only maybe 2 of those hits
were on here a$$.


you saw a different video than I did

apparently

the one I saw she was mostly out of view the majority of the video,,she was moving, so who knows

most spankings are aiming for the behind,, but moving around causes mishits,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:25 PM







indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


So um you like spankings eh, me just not on children.



no more than I like burning,, actually

and fortunate for me, being blessed with good sense

I was burned maybe once in my life before learning not to go near fire

and I can count on one hand the spankings I have had before I learned choices have consequences and that my parents would be consistent in what they promised to do ,,pleasant or unpleasant

DaddyTime's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:26 PM






indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


most of those hit were no where near her a$$,
they were on her legs on her arms even in her
face at the end, only maybe 2 of those hits
were on here a$$.


you saw a different video than I did

apparently

the one I saw she was mostly out of view the majority of the video,,she was moving, so who knows

most spankings are aiming for the behind,, but moving around causes mishits,,,


i still say that video was extremely
perverted and both those parents got
off on that. No one spanks a 16 year
old, tell her to be submissive and
gets that in to it. Unless there sick.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:26 PM







indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


So um you like spankings eh, me just not on children.



oh,, consentual relationship activity is another animal altogether, and another thread,,,laugh

DaddyTime's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:28 PM








indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


So um you like spankings eh, me just not on children.



oh,, consentual relationship activity is another animal altogether, and another thread,,,laugh


Wondered when you would catch on lol

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 05:30 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/12/12 05:30 PM







indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


most of those hit were no where near her a$$,
they were on her legs on her arms even in her
face at the end, only maybe 2 of those hits
were on here a$$.


you saw a different video than I did

apparently

the one I saw she was mostly out of view the majority of the video,,she was moving, so who knows

most spankings are aiming for the behind,, but moving around causes mishits,,,


i still say that video was extremely
perverted and both those parents got
off on that. No one spanks a 16 year
old, tell her to be submissive and
gets that in to it. Unless there sick.



I agree it was perverse, the language used, the use of spanking at 16 implies that it wasnt an effective tool for that particular child (my last spanking was probably in grade school)

the need for discipline I agree with
spanking as disciplinary action, I Agree with
spanking a 16 year old, doesnt offend me, but it does imply that the discipline part of the parenting equation has been lacking for this particular family,,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 02/12/12 06:54 PM






indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


Baptists are baptists...doesn't matter what family a baptist is in.
The religion teaches the same concept on capitol punishment regardless.

Yes, msharmony..you HAVE posted that you do support the war.

Well, I'm sure your son knows your religious stance on homosexuality. He must know his life style choices bother you.
He may be acting out. Kids that get knocked around do funny things sometimes when we no longer have them in our grips.
I use to seek out and date black guys just cause my dad was a racist and I knew it would piss him off.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/12/12 06:59 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/12/12 07:01 PM







indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


Baptists are baptists...doesn't matter what family a baptist is in.
The religion teaches the same concept on capitol punishment regardless.

Yes, msharmony..you HAVE posted that you do support the war.

Well, I'm sure your son knows your religious stance on homosexuality. He must know his life style choices bother you.
He may be acting out. Kids that get knocked around do funny things sometimes when we no longer have them in our grips.
I use to seek out and date black guys just cause my dad was a racist and I knew it would piss him off.



well, so long as you know what all us baptists believe,, what else can I , an actual baptist, say?

I must have been being taught by fake baptists,,,lol


I have not posted that I 'support' war or that I dont support it, anymore than pro choice people claim to 'support' abortion

I still dont know what 'acting out' you are referring to in regards to my son and his lifestyle,,,but thats really irrelevant to the topic at hand,,


my son knows he is loved, and that doesnt require me to be his slave or agree with everything he does anymore than he will agree with every thing I Do,, but thats also irrelevant


again, your family is not mine and everyone elses,,,


yours has their issues, as does everyone elses, including my own for sure

but its not better or worse or more right or more wrong than mine or everyone elses either,,,

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indifferent

Keep listening to your pastor when he tells ya all that and keep telling yourself it's ALL true...


didnt learn it from a pastor, learned it in ANATOMY...lol




Actually..you have said you are Baptist.
The Baptist teach spankings are and a sign of good parenting.
The scripture..spare the rod, spoil the child.. is taken literally.

You have also posted here that the ONLY problem you have with the judge "spanking" his daughter is the language he used.

No one is making any sweeping judgments.






I learned the bit about how well padded the gluteus is in ANATOMY,, not at church

spare the rod is taken literally by some, but I have never spanked or been spanked by a rod,,, and learned that the rod refers to discipline, and that discipline is the responsibility of the parent to discern

and I still stand by my offense with the verbal abuse in the video, when I Watched it on mute, once more,,, I still stand by my belief that it wasnt offensive,,,18 swats on a pretty thick behind over a two minute period

it should have taken less than one minute and been done with, but beyond that,,,,,


Yea, I know you stand behind it.
I stand behind.. I know baptist, have a few in my family.
YES..they teach that a good parent spanks their children
and if it doesn't hurt your not doing it right.

So not having to hear the F word screamed at at kid makes that clip watchable..and you say your the most non violent person one could ever meet. You also support war.
You may think your non violent..your words say different.

I'm done with this thread. It went exactly where I knew it would.
Have heard you explain over and over and over.

No wonder your son/daughter did what he did...think he isn't rebelling a little bit, some payback...
I feel sorry for your beautiful little girl.




never said I supported war,, not sure what thats about
also not sure what my son/daughter did that was rebellious or what it has to do with the topic.....


my beautiful little girl is just wonderful,,,,,


condescend much?


Baptists are baptists...doesn't matter what family a baptist is in.
The religion teaches the same concept on capitol punishment regardless.

Yes, msharmony..you HAVE posted that you do support the war.

Well, I'm sure your son knows your religious stance on homosexuality. He must know his life style choices bother you.
He may be acting out. Kids that get knocked around do funny things sometimes when we no longer have them in our grips.
I use to seek out and date black guys just cause my dad was a racist and I knew it would piss him off.



well, so long as you know what all us baptists believe,, what else can I , an actual baptist, say?

I must have been being taught by fake baptists,,,lol




There are more!!!
Everyone knows baptist teach this, it's not a secret or anything.


Godly Tips on How to Punish and Beat Your Christian Child
"Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being." Proverbs 20:30
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/spanking.html

"Spanking is one method by which parents are to instruct their children in the ways of God. Christian parents must lovingly shape their children according to God’s standards."
http://www.pendletonbaptistchurch.com/Spanking.html

Ex students describe brutality on CNN
http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2011/09/22/fairhaven-baptist-and-spanking-on-cnn/

"To not spank was to some Baptists as crazy or immoral as abusing a kid. People who didn’t spank weren’t doing their kids any favors and in fact, hurting their chances of being proper adults."
http://www.revelife.com/738621592/words-about-spanking/

"The concept of child rearing with the rod relies primarily on conditioning the child to obey their parents by introducing painful stimuli in response to undesired behavior.
Even mice and rats can be trained to respond to stimuli."
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pearl-312608-train-obedient.html



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