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Edited by
Dragoness
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Fri 01/06/12 11:53 AM
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tip number one; don't argue with people who hang out in politics. tip number two; don't take anything seriously. tip number three; don't get mad. tip number four; get them mad. He's new. He'll either figure out not to take things too seriously here, or he'll just get offended all the time. People tend to figure it out. Continuing to judge me? I'm not mad. I'm not even offended. It's fine arguing with people in politics. And once again.. I'm not offended. Thank you. Have a nice day. Keep proving me right. :D I'm going by my experience of what has happened on this site. New people tend to take things very seriously and get offended easily. They often then realize that not everyone is out to get them and start not taking things too personally. This site is much more fun when people aren't always getting angry at the responses they get. You'll also learn that if you ask for opinions, you'll get them. Many times, they won't be what you want or expect.  How very boring if they were always what you expect. |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Fri 01/06/12 12:01 PM
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Its called an opinion, there is a difference mind you. Definition of JUDGMENT 1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced 2 a : a formal decision given by a court b (1) : an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2) : a certificate evidencing such a decree 3 a capitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b : a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God 4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed 5 a : the capacity for judging : discernment b : the exercise of this capacity 6 : a proposition stating something believed or asserted YOU GOT SERVED! 
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Its called an opinion, there is a difference mind you. Definition of JUDGMENT 1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced 2 a : a formal decision given by a court b (1) : an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2) : a certificate evidencing such a decree 3 a capitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b : a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God 4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed 5 a : the capacity for judging : discernment b : the exercise of this capacity 6 : a proposition stating something believed or asserted YOU GOT SERVED! Wow, that's childish. Whatever... |
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Wow, that's childish. Whatever... I've got another definition for you. 1 a : something said or done to provoke laughter; especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b (1) : the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2) : an instance of jesting : kidding <can't take a joke> c : practical joke d : laughingstock |
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I think the people on this thread are basically trying to say don't lower yourself to that bullies standard. You never wanna be as bad as him. Just better than him, instead. lol
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Spider doesn't try to push people's buttons. He just states his opinion and sometimes it comes off the wrong way in writing. It happens to Singmesweet all the time. She is misunderstood because of her candor and the way she writes. Both of them have unintentionally hurt my feelings or made me feel defensive in the forums. However, I know both of them much better now from private conversations and I know that they both mean well. We all have different communication styles, that's all. I wasn't saying that as an insult to Spider at all. Just from what I've observed. That's all. Here, he gave his opinion when asked just like everyone else. He doesn't back down or change his opinion when someone doesn't agree. Neither do I. I can respect that. I respect someone's opinion unless it veers toward a dark territory, ie. passing judgment, insulting one's character. Probably not the best choice to go about it. That's just my take. For a person who never judges, you make a lot of judgements. Its called an opinion, there is a difference mind you. Definition of JUDGMENT 1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced 2 a : a formal decision given by a court b (1) : an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2) : a certificate evidencing such a decree 3 a capitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b : a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God 4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed 5 a : the capacity for judging : discernment b : the exercise of this capacity 6 : a proposition stating something believed or asserted aaah k, but there is a clear difference. not everything i say is true, just like yourself. its true to me. bringing out the definitions now? jeez Number 4 seems to fit what you're talking about. Ok, I see how it is. If you wanna go there. Lets. http://www.jonbishop.com/2009/09/wheres-the-line-between-opinion-and-judgement/ We tread the line between opinion and judgment a lot in social media. Some are quick to call out others as being “too judgmental” when their own beliefs or opinions are being challenged. There’s no point in getting all bent out of shape over something as seemingly mundane as text on a screen, especially when we are putting our thoughts out there to be judged in the first place. Yet there is still some question as to how one should present themselves in a way that is both unaggressive and adds to the conversation. The only difference between a judgment and an opinion is the existence of evidence to support an opinion therefore making it final or absolute. There is nothing wrong with a judgment of this type, however, the problem arises when we judge others in an aggressive tone. (me)Opinion: You might get more readers if you improved on the quality of your writing. (you) Judgement: You are not getting a lot of readers because of the quality of your writing. (spider) Aggressive Judgement: Your content sucks so you are not getting any readers. Opinions usually leave room for error in your thought process therefore leaving the recipient a little more at ease. Sometimes it’s as easy as adding words like might, i think, probably, maybe, etc. It seems kind of silly, but in a space where it’s so hard to express tone, it’s important to express these emotions through words. The line between opinion and judgment is when we use an aggressive, absolute tone (the tone of his writing in this case: harsh/blunt/unapologetic) while expressing one’s thoughts. I personally don’t have a problem with judgments because I can see them for what they are … opinions expressed as facts. For the rest of the world, accept the fact that you might not know everything and leave some room for doubt. Doubt is ultimately what pushes us to explore further into our minds, and is there anything wrong with that? ____________________ *hops off the soap box* |
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Wow, that's childish. Whatever... I've got another definition for you. 1 a : something said or done to provoke laughter; especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b (1) : the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2) : an instance of jesting : kidding <can't take a joke> c : practical joke d : laughingstock I'm proud of who I am. I'm sorry you had to go there because you aren't. |
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..and I said I liked it. By the way... You are still kinda cute. :D *throws rock.* *throws another rock.* *throws two more rocks.* *throws three more rocks.* *throws four more rocks.* |
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I think the people on this thread are basically trying to say don't lower yourself to that bullies standard. You never wanna be as bad as him. Just better than him, instead. lol Well you said it. Not them. It'd be SO much better if people say what they meant if in fact this is true. But I hope it is. My head hurts and my leg has fallen asleep. |
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..and I said I liked it. By the way... You are still kinda cute. :D *throws rock.* *throws another rock.* *throws two more rocks.* *throws three more rocks.* *throws four more rocks.* *aroused* xD |
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I think the people on this thread are basically trying to say don't lower yourself to that bullies standard. You never wanna be as bad as him. Just better than him, instead. lol That's my problem. I'm okay with disapproving with my methods.. ..but what is so 'great' about that mentality? Kingdoms, governments, 'founded' under a similar idea: A king becomes a tyrant. No one approves of him, or his ways.. Yet the army obeys his will The citizens never stand up against him. Who does that mentality truly hurt? You gave him a gateway to use this 'bully' method against anyone, no longer just minors. Next time he runs into a guy, older than him, really think he's going to just spit his mouth as much as he did with me? No. Highly doubtful. He'll stand by the door, keep his eye on his ride. And more than likely say something different to the guy. Doing something is just as bad as doing nothing. Violence begets violence. Standing by begets the cycle. It's all about perception. Mine is totally different. Whether 'right' or 'wrong'.. It is still mine. |
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So, just to clarify... 1. I'm not just 'anyone'. 2. I'm not even new; only this name is. BYondLife was my old one; and in actuality, my start would be somewhere around yours Sweet. 3. It takes a lot to get me 'angry'. This situation didn't even get me full-fledged angry, though, I did describe it as such. It was more spite, vengeful, and irritated. 4. The responses were what I basically expected. I had expected for Ash to agree with me; with some disagreeing. 5. I didn't expect sooo many people to take interest in this topic. I written a bunch of other posts, and this was not one I'd expect to hit my top 5 charts. 6. Would a guy wearing a koala suit for cancer ridden patients, leukemia patients, and other children nearing death... be that aggressively unstable? No, I did think out the situation -Action-Reaction-. I believed I needed to do something to put him back to our level; it was the way he looked at me.. I can't describe it. I believed, as I've said, Don't commit a crime, if you can't serve the time. Most vandalism, depending on who/what you do it to, is just a fine; heavy, maybe some community service, but I already do that, so that'd be no big deal. Ah, sorry to say that you were new then. I don't recognize that user name or your pictures, though. If you were just looking for people to validate what you did, maybe you should have said so in the first post. You clearly don't like people not agreeing with you. So... Because I didn't agree with Spider.. That constitutes the idea of 'everyone'? He wasn't the only one to object my choice. People don't agree with me everyday. Especially on here. It's life. There's a thin boundary between Stating an opinion and being aggressive. Just as there is that thin boundary between accepting criticism and becoming defensive. I did both, because I felt both. There's nothing more to it than that. If I'm not permitted to state my opinion to an opinion, well, forgive me, but I never received that memo. |
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Wow, that's childish. Whatever... Don't take things so seriously. 
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So... Because I didn't agree with Spider.. That constitutes the idea of 'everyone'? He wasn't the only one to object my choice. People don't agree with me everyday. Especially on here. It's life. There's a thin boundary between Stating an opinion and being aggressive. Just as there is that thin boundary between accepting criticism and becoming defensive. I did both, because I felt both. There's nothing more to it than that. If I'm not permitted to state my opinion to an opinion, well, forgive me, but I never received that memo. Can you show me where someone told you that you were not allowed to state your opinion? |
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Not to mention...
8 people replied before you did. You were before Spider. I didn't condone their words. I accepted it. I didn't just randomly get aggressive against everyone's comments. Hmm... |
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So... Because I didn't agree with Spider.. That constitutes the idea of 'everyone'? He wasn't the only one to object my choice. People don't agree with me everyday. Especially on here. It's life. There's a thin boundary between Stating an opinion and being aggressive. Just as there is that thin boundary between accepting criticism and becoming defensive. I did both, because I felt both. There's nothing more to it than that. If I'm not permitted to state my opinion to an opinion, well, forgive me, but I never received that memo. Can you show me where someone told you that you were not allowed to state your opinion? No, because that's not what I said. |
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Wow, that's childish. Whatever... Don't take things so seriously. I didn't. lol I have a large span of humor on everything. I don't go out of my way to embarrass people I don't know. |
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So... Because I didn't agree with Spider.. That constitutes the idea of 'everyone'? He wasn't the only one to object my choice. People don't agree with me everyday. Especially on here. It's life. There's a thin boundary between Stating an opinion and being aggressive. Just as there is that thin boundary between accepting criticism and becoming defensive. I did both, because I felt both. There's nothing more to it than that. If I'm not permitted to state my opinion to an opinion, well, forgive me, but I never received that memo. Can you show me where someone told you that you were not allowed to state your opinion? No, because that's not what I said. No one said you can't give your opinion. Simple as that. But, the issue is that you were complaining about being attacked, then did the exact same thing. |
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Wow, that's childish. Whatever... Don't take things so seriously. I didn't. lol I have a large span of humor on everything. I don't go out of my way to embarrass people I don't know. That was embarrassing? It was just something silly. What you were talking about fit into the definition of judgment. That's all. |
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So... Because I didn't agree with Spider.. That constitutes the idea of 'everyone'? He wasn't the only one to object my choice. People don't agree with me everyday. Especially on here. It's life. There's a thin boundary between Stating an opinion and being aggressive. Just as there is that thin boundary between accepting criticism and becoming defensive. I did both, because I felt both. There's nothing more to it than that. If I'm not permitted to state my opinion to an opinion, well, forgive me, but I never received that memo. Can you show me where someone told you that you were not allowed to state your opinion? No, because that's not what I said. No one said you can't give your opinion. Simple as that. But, the issue is that you were complaining about being attacked, then did the exact same thing. Exactly. If you weren't expecting that reaction... ...you didn't read my post very well. Action - Reaction I felt attacked in the story. - I Scratched his car. Action - Reaction I felt attacked - I met aggression with aggression. I didn't condone it after the fact. I was against the idea of criticizing me for retaliating. Because that's what I do; retaliate. He was saying to 'Be the bigger man, and walk away'. Yet how am I supposed to take that seriously.. ..when he couldn't even do it himself? |
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