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No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. And you can imply that the Biblical God does those things all you want, unless you show proof, it's all idle BS. You've been blinded by your hatred and arrogance. Read the Bible for yourself! If you're so upset about being lied to, why do you continue to believe and spread the lie?? Yeah yeah, I know... why bother reading it yourself, right? It's much more effective to lie about what's in the Bible than actually reading it.... |
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Deborah: was a prophetess of Yahweh the God of the Israelites, the fourth Judge of pre-monarchic Israel, counselor, warrior, and the wife of Lapidoth according to the Book of Judges chapters 4 and 5.
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I wanted to use this essay throughout the thread for discussion on women being inferior..according to the bible. This isn't the first time I've started this thread. You guys start name calling and straying off the subject and it gets locked. Can we be nice since it's almost a holiday? Women are not inferior to men, just different with different jobs and obligations. Takes both to make a family, without anyone of them, there is not family. Human race can not reproduce or progress without men Human race can not reproduce or progress without women. A family is not a family without a woman A family is not a family without a man. And so forth and so forth. I was thinking along these lines, that different doesnt mean inferior or superior and that women were created differently from men with different biological traits and cultural roles which correlated to those traits. It is woman that carries life into the world, which I think is pretty amazing and anything but second class,,for instance. Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? Actions have consequences it doesnt 'have' to be painful in this day and age neither does sodomy its all about choice..and consequence So it's just for God to punish ALL women in such a way for the actions of one? I'm all for actions having consequences, but there is no way whatsoever that they should EVER extend beyond the person doing the act, innocent bystanders notwithstanding. It's just basic common sense. No rational, sane parent would ever in their right minds punish a child for something their sibling did before them. As such if God is better than us, it wouldn't either. Simple as that. again, subjective, based upon a personal standard of what deems something 'better' justice is justice, it isnt about good better or best in my eyes, it is much more of a serious consequence to consider when something will affect my children than when it will just affect me its a powerful way to learn, and its just as a learning tool No it's not subjective, it's plain and simple logic, which religions fail to use. There is NO WAY you can defend punishing a completely innocent person for something someone else did. I don't care how much you try, you still can't do it. It NEVER works. If I rob a bank, should someone who just happened to be there go to jail with me? Of course not they are INNOCENT. Same thing applies here, and again if we know this, so does God. Otherwise God is worse than us, which would be absurd if it's above us. thats what you think 'should' happen, I 'know' no such thing I know actions have consequences, and they are sometimes further reaching than JUST the one who performs the action,, God is just You know what you have been told, that's what you know, or what you think you do anyway. If you had been raised another way you'd parrot what that belief says. You are a product of false teaching. You can say God is just all you want, but it does not excuse what the Biblical God does and it never will. If God is just it would NEVER act in such ways. Justice is not now nor will it ever be, making every single man that ever would live, responsible for something two people did before they ever were created. This really should not be so hard to understand, it's not rocket science. No good parent would ever do that to their kids, yet we're gonna expect that of God? Not a chance, God would be BETTER than us, not WORSE, and if it would do something we wouldn't, it'd be acting worse. actually, I know as much or as little as anyone else who posts I read, I experience, I am told things by others, and like anyone else, I take from it what makes the most sense to ME I can respect your opinion that God is not just, and I can disagree and believe he is and have my opinion be just as valid as anyone elses. No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. it is an opinion issue, everything posted in a forum about religion, with the exception of specific statistics, or references to specific news items,, is someones opinion about what is or isnt 'true' |
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Edited by
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I wanted to use this essay throughout the thread for discussion on women being inferior..according to the bible. This isn't the first time I've started this thread. You guys start name calling and straying off the subject and it gets locked. Can we be nice since it's almost a holiday? Women are not inferior to men, just different with different jobs and obligations. Takes both to make a family, without anyone of them, there is not family. Human race can not reproduce or progress without men Human race can not reproduce or progress without women. A family is not a family without a woman A family is not a family without a man. And so forth and so forth. I was thinking along these lines, that different doesnt mean inferior or superior and that women were created differently from men with different biological traits and cultural roles which correlated to those traits. It is woman that carries life into the world, which I think is pretty amazing and anything but second class,,for instance. Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? Actions have consequences it doesnt 'have' to be painful in this day and age neither does sodomy its all about choice..and consequence So it's just for God to punish ALL women in such a way for the actions of one? I'm all for actions having consequences, but there is no way whatsoever that they should EVER extend beyond the person doing the act, innocent bystanders notwithstanding. It's just basic common sense. No rational, sane parent would ever in their right minds punish a child for something their sibling did before them. As such if God is better than us, it wouldn't either. Simple as that. again, subjective, based upon a personal standard of what deems something 'better' justice is justice, it isnt about good better or best in my eyes, it is much more of a serious consequence to consider when something will affect my children than when it will just affect me its a powerful way to learn, and its just as a learning tool No it's not subjective, it's plain and simple logic, which religions fail to use. There is NO WAY you can defend punishing a completely innocent person for something someone else did. I don't care how much you try, you still can't do it. It NEVER works. If I rob a bank, should someone who just happened to be there go to jail with me? Of course not they are INNOCENT. Same thing applies here, and again if we know this, so does God. Otherwise God is worse than us, which would be absurd if it's above us. thats what you think 'should' happen, I 'know' no such thing I know actions have consequences, and they are sometimes further reaching than JUST the one who performs the action,, God is just You know what you have been told, that's what you know, or what you think you do anyway. If you had been raised another way you'd parrot what that belief says. You are a product of false teaching. You can say God is just all you want, but it does not excuse what the Biblical God does and it never will. If God is just it would NEVER act in such ways. Justice is not now nor will it ever be, making every single man that ever would live, responsible for something two people did before they ever were created. This really should not be so hard to understand, it's not rocket science. No good parent would ever do that to their kids, yet we're gonna expect that of God? Not a chance, God would be BETTER than us, not WORSE, and if it would do something we wouldn't, it'd be acting worse. actually, I know as much or as little as anyone else who posts I read, I experience, I am told things by others, and like anyone else, I take from it what makes the most sense to ME I can respect your opinion that God is not just, and I can disagree and believe he is and have my opinion be just as valid as anyone elses. No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. it is an opinion issue, everything posted in a forum about religion, with the exception of specific statistics, or references to specific news items,, is someones opinion about what is or isnt 'true' Yes but at the end of the day, there is but one eternal truth that we will eventually all come to know when our lives here as we know them now end. It won't be what many religious may think. |
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I wanted to use this essay throughout the thread for discussion on women being inferior..according to the bible. This isn't the first time I've started this thread. You guys start name calling and straying off the subject and it gets locked. Can we be nice since it's almost a holiday? Women are not inferior to men, just different with different jobs and obligations. Takes both to make a family, without anyone of them, there is not family. Human race can not reproduce or progress without men Human race can not reproduce or progress without women. A family is not a family without a woman A family is not a family without a man. And so forth and so forth. I was thinking along these lines, that different doesnt mean inferior or superior and that women were created differently from men with different biological traits and cultural roles which correlated to those traits. It is woman that carries life into the world, which I think is pretty amazing and anything but second class,,for instance. Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? Actions have consequences it doesnt 'have' to be painful in this day and age neither does sodomy its all about choice..and consequence So it's just for God to punish ALL women in such a way for the actions of one? I'm all for actions having consequences, but there is no way whatsoever that they should EVER extend beyond the person doing the act, innocent bystanders notwithstanding. It's just basic common sense. No rational, sane parent would ever in their right minds punish a child for something their sibling did before them. As such if God is better than us, it wouldn't either. Simple as that. again, subjective, based upon a personal standard of what deems something 'better' justice is justice, it isnt about good better or best in my eyes, it is much more of a serious consequence to consider when something will affect my children than when it will just affect me its a powerful way to learn, and its just as a learning tool No it's not subjective, it's plain and simple logic, which religions fail to use. There is NO WAY you can defend punishing a completely innocent person for something someone else did. I don't care how much you try, you still can't do it. It NEVER works. If I rob a bank, should someone who just happened to be there go to jail with me? Of course not they are INNOCENT. Same thing applies here, and again if we know this, so does God. Otherwise God is worse than us, which would be absurd if it's above us. thats what you think 'should' happen, I 'know' no such thing I know actions have consequences, and they are sometimes further reaching than JUST the one who performs the action,, God is just You know what you have been told, that's what you know, or what you think you do anyway. If you had been raised another way you'd parrot what that belief says. You are a product of false teaching. You can say God is just all you want, but it does not excuse what the Biblical God does and it never will. If God is just it would NEVER act in such ways. Justice is not now nor will it ever be, making every single man that ever would live, responsible for something two people did before they ever were created. This really should not be so hard to understand, it's not rocket science. No good parent would ever do that to their kids, yet we're gonna expect that of God? Not a chance, God would be BETTER than us, not WORSE, and if it would do something we wouldn't, it'd be acting worse. actually, I know as much or as little as anyone else who posts I read, I experience, I am told things by others, and like anyone else, I take from it what makes the most sense to ME I can respect your opinion that God is not just, and I can disagree and believe he is and have my opinion be just as valid as anyone elses. No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. it is an opinion issue, everything posted in a forum about religion, with the exception of specific statistics, or references to specific news items,, is someones opinion about what is or isnt 'true' Yes but at the end of the day, there is but one eternal truth that we will eventually all come to know when our lives here as we know them now end. It won't be what many religious may think. And now you claim to know the truth??? You're doing what you claim the "religious" do... |
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You know what yes I DO know, I don't give a damn if you wanna judge me for it or not, I'm gonna say it. God is entirely different from anything we are told it is, and far more loving. I'm not gonna say much more though, cause you'll just argue it anyway so it's pointless. I'll save it for someone that WANTS to hear it.
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You know what yes I DO know, I don't give a damn if you wanna judge me for it or not, I'm gonna say it. God is entirely different from anything we are told it is, and far more loving. I'm not gonna say much more though, cause you'll just argue it anyway so it's pointless. I'll save it for someone that WANTS to hear it. And I keep telling you to stop believeing everything you're told... Read it yourself for once... And you're not gonna say much more probrably because you have no proof of what I asked and you probrably haven't read it yourself... Support your falacious claims about the Bible or retract them pls... |
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You know what yes I DO know, I don't give a damn if you wanna judge me for it or not, I'm gonna say it. God is entirely different from anything we are told it is, and far more loving. I'm not gonna say much more though, cause you'll just argue it anyway so it's pointless. I'll save it for someone that WANTS to hear it. And I keep telling you to stop believeing everything you're told... Read it yourself for once... And you're not gonna say much more probrably because you have no proof of what I asked and you probrably haven't read it yourself... Support your falacious claims about the Bible or retract them pls... I know what I've read, more than you think. It's why I am not a Christian anymore. And no I won't retract them, and if you want support, show me you have an open mind. As it is I can see it's closed, so the truth is not worth wasting on you. If you want it you'll ask, and you have shown time and again you do not. I will not throw my pearls before swine, the truth is too important for that. With that I take my leave of this conversation. |
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I wanted to use this essay throughout the thread for discussion on women being inferior..according to the bible. This isn't the first time I've started this thread. You guys start name calling and straying off the subject and it gets locked. Can we be nice since it's almost a holiday? Women are not inferior to men, just different with different jobs and obligations. Takes both to make a family, without anyone of them, there is not family. Human race can not reproduce or progress without men Human race can not reproduce or progress without women. A family is not a family without a woman A family is not a family without a man. And so forth and so forth. I was thinking along these lines, that different doesnt mean inferior or superior and that women were created differently from men with different biological traits and cultural roles which correlated to those traits. It is woman that carries life into the world, which I think is pretty amazing and anything but second class,,for instance. Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? Actions have consequences it doesnt 'have' to be painful in this day and age neither does sodomy its all about choice..and consequence So it's just for God to punish ALL women in such a way for the actions of one? I'm all for actions having consequences, but there is no way whatsoever that they should EVER extend beyond the person doing the act, innocent bystanders notwithstanding. It's just basic common sense. No rational, sane parent would ever in their right minds punish a child for something their sibling did before them. As such if God is better than us, it wouldn't either. Simple as that. again, subjective, based upon a personal standard of what deems something 'better' justice is justice, it isnt about good better or best in my eyes, it is much more of a serious consequence to consider when something will affect my children than when it will just affect me its a powerful way to learn, and its just as a learning tool No it's not subjective, it's plain and simple logic, which religions fail to use. There is NO WAY you can defend punishing a completely innocent person for something someone else did. I don't care how much you try, you still can't do it. It NEVER works. If I rob a bank, should someone who just happened to be there go to jail with me? Of course not they are INNOCENT. Same thing applies here, and again if we know this, so does God. Otherwise God is worse than us, which would be absurd if it's above us. thats what you think 'should' happen, I 'know' no such thing I know actions have consequences, and they are sometimes further reaching than JUST the one who performs the action,, God is just You know what you have been told, that's what you know, or what you think you do anyway. If you had been raised another way you'd parrot what that belief says. You are a product of false teaching. You can say God is just all you want, but it does not excuse what the Biblical God does and it never will. If God is just it would NEVER act in such ways. Justice is not now nor will it ever be, making every single man that ever would live, responsible for something two people did before they ever were created. This really should not be so hard to understand, it's not rocket science. No good parent would ever do that to their kids, yet we're gonna expect that of God? Not a chance, God would be BETTER than us, not WORSE, and if it would do something we wouldn't, it'd be acting worse. actually, I know as much or as little as anyone else who posts I read, I experience, I am told things by others, and like anyone else, I take from it what makes the most sense to ME I can respect your opinion that God is not just, and I can disagree and believe he is and have my opinion be just as valid as anyone elses. No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. it is an opinion issue, everything posted in a forum about religion, with the exception of specific statistics, or references to specific news items,, is someones opinion about what is or isnt 'true' Yes but at the end of the day, there is but one eternal truth that we will eventually all come to know when our lives here as we know them now end. It won't be what many religious may think. numbers suggest it wont be what many people think, regardless of their religious or non religious label but it will be what SOME think , and most think they are part of that 'some' when these discussions come up,,,, |
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Edited by
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I wanted to use this essay throughout the thread for discussion on women being inferior..according to the bible. This isn't the first time I've started this thread. You guys start name calling and straying off the subject and it gets locked. Can we be nice since it's almost a holiday? Women are not inferior to men, just different with different jobs and obligations. Takes both to make a family, without anyone of them, there is not family. Human race can not reproduce or progress without men Human race can not reproduce or progress without women. A family is not a family without a woman A family is not a family without a man. And so forth and so forth. I was thinking along these lines, that different doesnt mean inferior or superior and that women were created differently from men with different biological traits and cultural roles which correlated to those traits. It is woman that carries life into the world, which I think is pretty amazing and anything but second class,,for instance. Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? Actions have consequences it doesnt 'have' to be painful in this day and age neither does sodomy its all about choice..and consequence So it's just for God to punish ALL women in such a way for the actions of one? I'm all for actions having consequences, but there is no way whatsoever that they should EVER extend beyond the person doing the act, innocent bystanders notwithstanding. It's just basic common sense. No rational, sane parent would ever in their right minds punish a child for something their sibling did before them. As such if God is better than us, it wouldn't either. Simple as that. again, subjective, based upon a personal standard of what deems something 'better' justice is justice, it isnt about good better or best in my eyes, it is much more of a serious consequence to consider when something will affect my children than when it will just affect me its a powerful way to learn, and its just as a learning tool No it's not subjective, it's plain and simple logic, which religions fail to use. There is NO WAY you can defend punishing a completely innocent person for something someone else did. I don't care how much you try, you still can't do it. It NEVER works. If I rob a bank, should someone who just happened to be there go to jail with me? Of course not they are INNOCENT. Same thing applies here, and again if we know this, so does God. Otherwise God is worse than us, which would be absurd if it's above us. thats what you think 'should' happen, I 'know' no such thing I know actions have consequences, and they are sometimes further reaching than JUST the one who performs the action,, God is just You know what you have been told, that's what you know, or what you think you do anyway. If you had been raised another way you'd parrot what that belief says. You are a product of false teaching. You can say God is just all you want, but it does not excuse what the Biblical God does and it never will. If God is just it would NEVER act in such ways. Justice is not now nor will it ever be, making every single man that ever would live, responsible for something two people did before they ever were created. This really should not be so hard to understand, it's not rocket science. No good parent would ever do that to their kids, yet we're gonna expect that of God? Not a chance, God would be BETTER than us, not WORSE, and if it would do something we wouldn't, it'd be acting worse. actually, I know as much or as little as anyone else who posts I read, I experience, I am told things by others, and like anyone else, I take from it what makes the most sense to ME I can respect your opinion that God is not just, and I can disagree and believe he is and have my opinion be just as valid as anyone elses. No I believe God is just too, and it's because of that that I KNOW that any loving God would NEVER act in the way the Biblical God does. This really is not an opinion issue here, it's basic common sense. Love is NOT making everyone responsible for the actions of two people long before they were born. Love is NOT requiring a blood sacrifice to save said people for these things that they never did. Love is NOT punishing someone for all eternity (even if they repent), or at the least killing them outright, because they did something you didn't like. You can try and twist it all you want, but those things will never be right. it is an opinion issue, everything posted in a forum about religion, with the exception of specific statistics, or references to specific news items,, is someones opinion about what is or isnt 'true' Yes but at the end of the day, there is but one eternal truth that we will eventually all come to know when our lives here as we know them now end. It won't be what many religious may think. numbers suggest it wont be what many people think, regardless of their religious or non religious label but it will be what SOME think , and most think they are part of that 'some' when these discussions come up,,,, The entire thing is based on perception, this is why so many near death experiences are so different from each other. We go into them expecting a certain image of God, and thus it's what we see. It wouldn't make much sense for God to come to someone as Buddha if they believed God to be Jesus would it? Of course not, God knows better than to appear as someone it knows we aren't going to believe. It meets us where we are, as far as I understand this also happens when we die as well, but only temporarily as eventually we all see God for who it actually is, a completely unconditionally loving being that judges nothing and no one, as opposed to what they have believed it to be. If any one religious path was the correct path, then ALL experiences into the afterlife would indicate that. But it simply doesn't work that way. |
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If any one religious path was the correct path, then ALL experiences into the afterlife would indicate that. But it simply doesn't work that way.
the path is long with many potential detours, but it ends up at the same destination if it is to be so,,, I can drive to california from las vegas many different ways, because I am on the same continent , there are details that can vary but I could never drive to england from las vegas, as that is a path that just is not possible,,,whatever the details,,, |
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I don't think the bible denigrates women or portrays them as inferior.
When Genesis discusses the roles of men and women it is not master and servant at all times but sometimes woman is master of man and at other times man is master of woman. Both instances are shown. The bible is not inherently misogynistic. The interpretations are. Women and men in the bible are portrayed as different in the bible therefore not equivalent but also not unequal in general. There are many strong forthright women leaders in the bible although it certainly is a work of antiquity and must be interpreted in a historically correct context. The bible is a collection of instructive parables not a recipe for female bias or discrimination actually. God does not discriminate on the basis of gender! God does not care if one is male or female. 
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If any one religious path was the correct path, then ALL experiences into the afterlife would indicate that. But it simply doesn't work that way. the path is long with many potential detours, but it ends up at the same destination if it is to be so,,, I can drive to california from las vegas many different ways, because I am on the same continent , there are details that can vary but I could never drive to england from las vegas, as that is a path that just is not possible,,,whatever the details,,, You really can't compare a physical path to a spiritual one. The limitations that we have here cease to exist in the spiritual realm. That is to say there aren't any. They are not the same things. Further, if God is unlimited, than the paths to it cannot be somehow limited it would make no sense. Why would an unlimited being limit the paths by which it could be reached, making itself limited in so doing? It just doesn't work. |
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Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? "chauvanistic"... Or perhaps just the stumbling attempt by a primitive man to expain why his woman hurt so much in birthing. A child understands not the world around him. (in the same way he will when time passes) Actually, if you talk to women who give birth squatting, with gravity helping bring the baby out, it hurts far less. Giving birth flat on one's back is actually unnatural and causes more pain then necessary. However, our somewhat less primitive cultures, but other deity based were "evil" and wrong, and so the conquering cultures, men, even interfered with those arraignments. |
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If any one religious path was the correct path, then ALL experiences into the afterlife would indicate that. But it simply doesn't work that way. the path is long with many potential detours, but it ends up at the same destination if it is to be so,,, I can drive to california from las vegas many different ways, because I am on the same continent , there are details that can vary but I could never drive to england from las vegas, as that is a path that just is not possible,,,whatever the details,,, You really can't compare a physical path to a spiritual one. The limitations that we have here cease to exist in the spiritual realm. That is to say there aren't any. They are not the same things. Further, if God is unlimited, than the paths to it cannot be somehow limited it would make no sense. Why would an unlimited being limit the paths by which it could be reached, making itself limited in so doing? It just doesn't work. because what God can do is unlimited doesnt mean that WE dont have limits. IM confused about the logic which constantly judges HIM by what 'we' would do but also states that because he is unlimited there is no such limit on US.... ?????? why should an unlimited being limit anything? and yet, humans have limits,,, imagine that,,,, |
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If any one religious path was the correct path, then ALL experiences into the afterlife would indicate that. But it simply doesn't work that way. the path is long with many potential detours, but it ends up at the same destination if it is to be so,,, I can drive to california from las vegas many different ways, because I am on the same continent , there are details that can vary but I could never drive to england from las vegas, as that is a path that just is not possible,,,whatever the details,,, You really can't compare a physical path to a spiritual one. The limitations that we have here cease to exist in the spiritual realm. That is to say there aren't any. They are not the same things. Further, if God is unlimited, than the paths to it cannot be somehow limited it would make no sense. Why would an unlimited being limit the paths by which it could be reached, making itself limited in so doing? It just doesn't work. because what God can do is unlimited doesnt mean that WE dont have limits. IM confused about the logic which constantly judges HIM by what 'we' would do but also states that because he is unlimited there is no such limit on US.... ?????? why should an unlimited being limit anything? and yet, humans have limits,,, imagine that,,,, Maybe cause it wanted it that way? God is not gonna make a mistake. Things are the way they are (yes even the bad) cause it was wanted to be as such. If God didn't wish it, it wouldn't have created it the way it did. Everything and everyone is as it was supposed to be. To say otherwise is to say God didn't know what it was doing when it created the world, which would be silly to say of a being supposed to be perfect. The whole thing with limitations though is, if God doesn't have them, why would it limit whom it loves or saves? If it has the power to save and love all, why would it not do it? If you had that power wouldn't you? |
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Yes but you're telling me God decided to punish women by making it hurt? That's pretty chauvanistic don't you think? "chauvanistic"... Or perhaps just the stumbling attempt by a primitive man to expain why his woman hurt so much in birthing. A child understands not the world around him. (in the same way he will when time passes) Actually, if you talk to women who give birth squatting, with gravity helping bring the baby out, it hurts far less. Giving birth flat on one's back is actually unnatural and causes more pain then necessary. However, our somewhat less primitive cultures, but other deity based were "evil" and wrong, and so the conquering cultures, men, even interfered with those arraignments. The birthing process and how we have changed that for the worse, is a topic all its' own lol. But I won't get into that here. |
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God is good and evil. God is not about love. God is about God. The fact is God could care less about each of us individually. It is ludicrous to think to have free will we need a god shepherding us.
God made everything and god is everything. Therefore god is good and evil. People want to make god out in their own image, something they can relate too. Unfortunately people are trying to put a face on a faceless thing. We can BARELY comprehend the scope of our own universe and where we are in it. What makes anyone so sure what they know is truth especially based on just faith alone??? Intellectual blindness I say! |
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God is good and evil. God is not about love. God is about God. The fact is God could care less about each of us individually. It is ludicrous to think to have free will we need a god shepherding us. God made everything and god is everything. Therefore god is good and evil. People want to make god out in their own image, something they can relate too. Unfortunately people are trying to put a face on a faceless thing. We can BARELY comprehend the scope of our own universe and where we are in it. What makes anyone so sure what they know is truth especially based on just faith alone??? Intellectual blindness I say! If you want to dig at it, most of the "knowledge" we posses is hearsay rumours, unless one has personally repeated the experiment(s) to find out for themselves. It's mostly all taken on exactly that, faith to be true. |
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God is good and evil. God is not about love. God is about God. The fact is God could care less about each of us individually. It is ludicrous to think to have free will we need a god shepherding us. God made everything and god is everything. Therefore god is good and evil. People want to make god out in their own image, something they can relate too. Unfortunately people are trying to put a face on a faceless thing. We can BARELY comprehend the scope of our own universe and where we are in it. What makes anyone so sure what they know is truth especially based on just faith alone??? Intellectual blindness I say! When it comes to the balance of good and evil people attempting (in futility) to place a face upon something they avoid actually facing. When they look in a mirror most people see the 'good' face. (yet the other exists also). Part of being human. Unless a person can face that 'other' part of their reality... The other face has more control. The moment a person accepts also that 'other' face. They can control it. for it is also them. |
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