No problem MorningSong, apology accepted. I do appreciate you pointing things out like this though. I do wish for you to continue "pointing out" some error you see I may have said on here. No hard feelings, much love to you MorningSong. Because there may be something I "think" I know but in the end could be false.

I don't see Cowboy as "preaching" to anyone.

What he is doing is defending what he believes to be biblical truth!

Im surprised I haven't seen the title "dogmatic preaching" thrown at him as well.

Is that word "dogmatic" getting old? Well I see most of YOU as dogmatic...

but not of any specific persuasion axcept your radical unbelief.

You all have banded like sharks to devour the Word as soon as it comes out of a believer's mouth.

Cowboy, we (christians) are all being revealed the Glory of Almighty God.

God backs the written Word.

So we must use scripture to teach men about God, verbatim.

No man can stand against the Word of God.

They all fall down.

Whether literally or figuritively...

"EVERY man will someday confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of God the Father".
--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Rom_14:11, For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord,
every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Phi_2:11, And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
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My hope is that it will not be too late for some...as we shall ALL stand before the Judgment Seat.

My sisters and I were all named after women in the Bible.

I know....

CeriseRose....Cowboy's beliefs do NOT line up with

Christianity at all.

But I have already left this all in God's hands now...and will not

take it up again.....as I trust God is

more than able to make His Truth known to Cowboy and to all....

Whatever makes you sleep at night.............

and.. to each their own

becoming the universal 'human' philosophy,,,,

Awwwww

I love the Book of Ruth, she was such a sweet woman. I'm sure anyone who knows you would say that you take after your namesake.

If one KNOWS the truth or just THINKS they know the truth, why would anything else be made clearer? If a mind is not open to possiblities how will anything new be possible?

What if Cowboy is the one who has the truth? You have judged his message but you have no way of knowing how he came about the message he passes on.

Obviously it doesn't match your message and neither of your messages matches very well with Peter Pan's message yet all three of you (and the many more who have a message)seem to think that judging a message is not judging the person who carries the message -- then are you judging from whence the message came????

How do assess the risk - according to your message. (well that's just what I thought, everyone is right).

The only wrong may be in putting the message that is only meant for you in the face of others to be following without recognizing that to do so means to pass judgement on your fellow man, or on the messenger.

It might be better to Flip a coin, roll a die, pick a card and your message will be revealed to you.... look in the crystal ball, drink the potion, read from an ancient script and find the message of best fit, that is your message and yours alone.

Wouldn't it be so much less stessful to know that you have the one and only true message given just for you and that you never had to compare it with any other message because all the messages imparted are right only for the one person who received it?

OMG - then how would we all act? What would that do to the moral code or to a person's sense purpose.... AHHH - imagine that, only having to worry about and live up to your very own personalized moral code from your very own personal message.

I think that would be a much better world to live in becasue each person would truely be responsible for the actions which stem from thier beliefs, instead of trying live in accord with the beliefs of others when you have no idea what THEIR message really was in the first place.

Wouldn't it be so much less stessful to know that you have the one and only true message given just for you and that you never had to compare it with any other message because all the messages imparted are right only for the one person who received it?



some people have the wrong message though,, because people are fallible and human


I will sound like a broken record, but I welcome and prefer correction when something is wrong or mislead or misguided, but it makes a world of difference whether the correction is made lovingly or antagonisticly,


it is not judging a person to say they have made a mistake,or to correct a mistake, except the judgment that they are human


I Think there is alot of gray area there though

' that seems like false logic',,,,,honest correction

'that was stupid' antagonistic attack


,,,its all in how we speak to each other, but it doesnt require us to be self absorbed in only how we feel or what we do or what affects us directly

or to condone others do the same

Redykeulous....The Holy Spirit Now Indwells ALL born

again believers, and also becomes Our

Teacher, and is the One Who leads and guides ALL believers now

into All Truth.......

That is Why ONLY the Holy Spirit is able to give the CORRECT

Interpretation of God's Word ...and not man.


ANYONE giving an interpretation CONTRARY to the one that the

Holy Spirit gives, is simply NOT hearing fron the Holy

Spirit at all ( usually because that person has not become

born again yet); and therefore, is ONLY hearing from one's own

self....or going by one's OWN Interpretation only.


ALL born again believers AGREE on the

Basic Fundamental Truths of God's Word....because we ALL

have the SAME Holy Spirit INDWELLING us now( The Holy Spirit in

us has become our Teacher now.... and as we continue to grow

in our christian walk , The Holy Spirit in us also is

the One Who leads and guides us into ALLLLL Truth ).


ALLL Born Again Believers RECOGNIZE THE SHEPHERD'S VOICE.

Jesus said, "My Sheep HEAR My Voice, and the Voice of a

Stranger, They Will NOT Follow."

No offense morningsong but I think it's highly arrogant, to assume only certain people are hearing from God or are chosen by God for that matter, and the rest are just wrong, misinformed or lost altogether.

That implies to me God plays favorites, and the God I know certainly does NOT do anything of the sort. The God I know, loves us ALL equally, no ifs and or buts, no matter what we do, good or bad alike.

It's amazing how much simpler things become if you go about life with that view, you judge people and acts a lot less. Some of you might wanna try it sometime, it's much better than having to worry about whether something unrelated to what we are doing, or even related as well, is displeasing to God or not all the time.

When it comes to giving the CORRECT Interpretation of

God's Word, ( The Holy Bible), ONLY the Holy Spirit INDWELLING the

believer now, can give the CORRECT Interpretation.


NOT the believer......but ONLY The Holy Spirit now

INDWELLING the believer(Therefore, NO believer can BOAST,

because it is NEVER the believer giving Interpretation

anyway...but ONLY the Holy Spirit INDWELLING the believer , Who

gives the Correct Interpretation) !!!



Same goes with Salvation....we can't boast of that

either....because it is GOD Who does the SAVING....and not of

ourselves .

Which would only prove this God plays favorites, because if I had to power to save everyone and it was in fact MY responsibility to save them, and I loved everyone, I would save them all, and your God does not do it.

??? But it's not God's responsibility to save us.

John 6:44 JESUS SPEAKING...

“NO MAN can come to THE FATHER UNLESS the Father who sent Me

DRAWS him, and I will raise him up at the last day.”


God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn, no

doubt RESPOND to HIS DRAWING US, but the DRAWING Itself is

ALL ON GOD'S PART .

If God and ONLY God can choose whom he calls, then YES it IS his responsibility, because we cannot do it ourselves according to this. So how COULD we be responsible under that logic?

Salvation is Available for ALL, not just some..but for ALL !!



The clearest verse on God’s drawing to salvation is John 6:44 where

Jesus declares that “No one can come to Me unless the Father who

sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.” The

Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo which means to drag

(literally or figuratively). Clearly this drawing is a one-sided

affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a

passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to

His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part.



Helkuo is used in John 21:6 to refer to a heavy net full of fish

being dragged to the shore. In John 18:10, we see Peter drawing his

sword and in Acts 16:19, helkuo is used to describe Paul and Silas

being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers. Clearly the

net had no part in its being drawn to the shore, Peter’s sword had

no part in being drawn, and Paul and Silas did not drag themselves

to the marketplace. The same can be said of God’s drawing of some

to salvation. Some come willingly and some are dragged unwillingly,

but all eventually come although we have no part in the drawing.



Why does God need to draw us to salvation? Simply put, if He didn’t,

we would never come. Jesus explains that no man can come unless the

Father draws him (John 6:65). The natural man has no ability to

come to God, nor does he even have the desire to come. Because his

heart is hard and his mind is darkened, the unregenerate person not

only doesn’t desire God, but is actually an enemy of God (Romans

5:10). When Jesus says that no man can come without God’s drawing

him, He is making a statement about the total depravity of the

sinner and the universality of that condition. So darkened is the

unsaved person that he doesn’t even realize it: “The heart is

deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?”

(Jeremiah 17:9). Therefore, it is only by the drawing of God through

His mercy and grace that we are saved. In the conversion of the

sinner, God enlightens the mind (Ephesians 1:18), He inclines the

will toward Himself, and He influences the soul, without which

influence, the soul remains darkened and rebellious against God. All

of this is involved in the drawing process.


There is a sense in which God draws all men. This is known as

the “general call” and is distinguished from the “effectual call” of

God’s elect. Passages such as Psalm 19:1-4 and Romans 1:20 attest to

the fact that God’s eternal power and divine nature are “clearly

seen” and “understood” from what has been made, and that there is no

excuse for denying these facts. But men still do deny God and those

who acknowledge His existence still do not come to a saving

knowledge of Him outside of His drawing them. Only those who have

been drawn through special revelation—by the power of the Holy

Spirit and the grace of God—will come to Christ.



There are tangible ways in which those who are being drawn to

salvation experience that drawing. First, the Holy Spirit convicts

us of our sinful state and our need for a Savior (John 16:8).

Second, He awakens in us a previously unknown interest in spiritual

things and creates a desire for them that was never there before.

Suddenly our ears are open, our hearts are inclined toward Him, and

His Word begins to hold a fascination for us that is new and

exciting. Our spirits begin to discern spiritual truth that never

made sense to us before because we were in a natural state: “The

man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the

Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot

understand them, because they are spiritually discerned” (1

Corinthians 2:14). Finally, we begin to discern new desires which He

has created within us. He places within us a new heart that inclines

toward Him, a heart that desires to know Him, to obey Him and to

walk in the “newness of life” (Romans 6:4) which He has promised.






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You're only proving my point, if it's for ALL, why doesn't he draw ALL? The fact that he doesn't speaks a lot about him. God of love that is not.

If you had something you KNEW everyone else wanted and needed to live, had the power to give it to them and in fact were their only means of having it, and didn't do it, what exactly does that make you but someone that is showing favoritism?

Something can't be for all, but only limited to some, it doesn't work that way. Either it's for all or it's not.

God came for ALL...NOT just SOME!!!

God came for ALL....God would have it that NONE should

perish....NONE...

That is Why He first Draws man unto Him......

It's God's drawing that helps a person to respond to God ....

Spider, that was a very sweet thing to say, thank you.