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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:17 PM




sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:21 PM





sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:23 PM
Edited by bhernandez on Wed 11/02/11 10:24 PM

marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


people wouldn't insist on getting married if it weren't for the fact that one group is allowed to do it and another isn't.
what's the difference between a gay and straight citizen?
should one be allowed to vote but not the other?
if same sex couples are allowed to get married,
it doesn't mean that the government is telling the nation to go have gay sex.
just get rid of marriage altogether and i think we're good.

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:24 PM



nope, because those types of decisions can change,,,

we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,,


ha.
'for the sake of our community.'
like it's in great condition or something.
i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason.
you're just trying not to bring it up.
why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed?
if you don't like it,
then don't do it.
the end.
don't stand in the way of their happiness.
[although considering you're bi,
i'm sure you'd like it.
your god just won't let you.
:p]



marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc.

I'm not in favor of any kind of marriage. I think all marriage should be abolished. Why get married at all this day and age?

Traditionally, it was mostly a business proposition.

The last guy who asked me to marry him, I told him to just sign over half of his property to me. laugh laugh

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:28 PM






sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



Yes... it has been!

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:28 PM


marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


people wouldn't insist on getting married if it weren't for the fact that one group is allowed to do it and another isn't.
what's the difference between a gay and straight citizen?
should one be allowed to vote but not the other?
if same sex couples are allowed to get married,
it doesn't mean that the government is telling the nation to go have gay sex.
just get rid of marriage altogether and i think we're good.




that 'if they can do it why cant I' has nothing to do with the laws

as I said before

fathers and daughters are citizens, but it wouldnt suffice for them to fight for the privilege of marriage because 'one group is allowed to'

however, each citizen is permitted to vote , who is OVER 18 and without felonies(sexual preference is irrelevant)

each citizen can also marry someone of the opposite sex

the laws are equal, homosexuals just want them adapted to their 'orientations' and laws are not generally 'orientation' based

we dont need to do away with marriage just because some incestuous, minor, and homosexual marriage is not legally supported,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:30 PM






sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



different from KNOWING it has been proven,, there is no unilateral study that showed any correlation that
A) did not occur as well in heterosexuals (albeit a possibly lower rate)

or B) occurred in all homosexual cases


so there is no definitive PROOF of how INNATE preference is,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:31 PM




nope, because those types of decisions can change,,,

we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,,


ha.
'for the sake of our community.'
like it's in great condition or something.
i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason.
you're just trying not to bring it up.
why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed?
if you don't like it,
then don't do it.
the end.
don't stand in the way of their happiness.
[although considering you're bi,
i'm sure you'd like it.
your god just won't let you.
:p]



marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc.

I'm not in favor of any kind of marriage. I think all marriage should be abolished. Why get married at all this day and age?

Traditionally, it was mostly a business proposition.

The last guy who asked me to marry him, I told him to just sign over half of his property to me. laugh laugh



because marriage is a way to promote that heterosexual couples enter their sexual relationships in a commitment as opposed to casually in a time where too many fatherless children are being raised



no photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:35 PM

that 'if they can do it why cant I' has nothing to do with the laws

as I said before

fathers and daughters are citizens, but it wouldnt suffice for them to fight for the privilege of marriage because 'one group is allowed to'

however, each citizen is permitted to vote , who is OVER 18 and without felonies(sexual preference is irrelevant)

each citizen can also marry someone of the opposite sex

the laws are equal, homosexuals just want them adapted to their 'orientations' and laws are not generally 'orientation' based

we dont need to do away with marriage just because some incestuous, minor, and homosexual marriage is not legally supported,,,


really?
the 'if they can do it why can't i' has nothing to do with laws?
why do i have the right to vote then?
we're not asking for incestuous marriage to be legalized.
we're talking simple sexual orientation.
you said laws aren't based on sexual orientation,
clearly they are if they're keeping someone from doing something just because of their sexual orientation.
let them get married and then you can say laws aren't orientation based.

ybcat1's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:46 PM
frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated Gosh, will the subjects of being gay ever end. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

RainbowTrout's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:54 PM

frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated Gosh, will the subjects of being gay ever end. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated


Once my shrink told me that I had an immature desire to be happy.happy I have always wondered how an immature desire to be happy was different than a mature desire to be happy.happy

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:58 PM


frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated Gosh, will the subjects of being gay ever end. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated


Once my shrink told me that I had an immature desire to be happy.happy I have always wondered how an immature desire to be happy was different than a mature desire to be happy.happy



I think any desire can be immature if it becomes the FOCUS and OBSESSIVE goal of every decision,,,

not that I Think such a diagnosis fits you, lol

just saying how I would take it to mean

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 10:59 PM

frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated Gosh, will the subjects of being gay ever end. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated



no objection here,, lets be happy, healthy, and responsible,,,

and check out some other threads..lol

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:03 PM
when i first saw this post i thought it'd be done within two pages.
you'd think that by now everyone would be accepting of homosexuality.
it took forever for america to abolish slavery.
i guess now she's going to take her precious time til she allows gays to get married.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:07 PM

when i first saw this post i thought it'd be done within two pages.
you'd think that by now everyone would be accepting of homosexuality.
it took forever for america to abolish slavery.
i guess now she's going to take her precious time til she allows gays to get married.




hopefully,,,

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:18 PM

when i first saw this post i thought it'd be done within two pages.
you'd think that by now everyone would be accepting of homosexuality.
it took forever for america to abolish slavery.
i guess now she's going to take her precious time til she allows gays to get married.


it can never ever accepted by many...happy

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:23 PM

Hello all,

I would like to wiegh in for a bit it I may,

Me personally...Whenever I have made LOVE to a woman and she has equally made LOVE to me, it was the most uforic spiritual uniting of the souls that I have ever encountered!

I've NEVER been sexually, emotionally nor spiritually connected or attracted to a man as I have with CERTAIN women. It's the way I'm wired and was born as some are born attracted to the opposite gender or some born attracted to both gender or some born connected to neither gender (asexual).

I would ask those of you to consider people who are born intersexed or hormaphrodites. If a biological variation can occur in physical nature, then surely a neurological variation can be ...and is possible, therefore innately gay can be and is possible.

I would also reccomend that the people who use God and science as their spokeperson for morality to check out the documentary; "For The Bible Tells Me So".(You could probably find it on HULU internet TV or You tube or buy the DVD). There-in lays your proof. This doc is written by a heteroexual so there is no "Gay Agenda" attachment to be attributed.There is scientific proof, there is several accredited assoc. proof...including Am.Psychological Asso. and there is scriptual proof.

Thank you for reading and have a great evening!

Light and love.





you are just being consume by your lust...

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:27 PM





yes we no god dont want two lady together i feel love there justcant help it

don't worry my dear, with time God help you, He helps us all to overcome bad habits. flowerforyou


Are you serious? Don't you know that people are born with their sexual orientation? Its not a "habit."

frustrated frustrated



sex becomes a 'habit'


So does biting your nails and smoking, but to say that God will help a person who is gay overcome a bad habit is just ignorant. Grossly ignorant.



you never mind, she understands and help is on her way....

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:37 PM

because of the notion that all that should matter is whether two people are adults who 'consent' and love each other

adult incest would fall under that category

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:43 PM

How can you say you "love them most in the world" but you consider part of what makes them who they are, you consider "unhealthy and unclean and unnatural"?

Wouldn't your considering that about them taint your love for them?

gay is no part that make them, it is simply part of the choice they make.

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