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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
pimpwagn23's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:49 PM
Homosexuals and Heterosexual males have the same brain and are the same at birth and actually studies show that the decision to be homosexual can be from the way you are brought up (child abuse, neglect, etc.) 30% of homosexual Christians wanted to change (for their religion, of course) and 27% did. People can change it's up to them to do it.

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Wed 11/02/11 11:51 PM


Hello all,

I would like to wiegh in for a bit it I may,

Me personally...Whenever I have made LOVE to a woman and she has equally made LOVE to me, it was the most uforic spiritual uniting of the souls that I have ever encountered!

I've NEVER been sexually, emotionally nor spiritually connected or attracted to a man as I have with CERTAIN women. It's the way I'm wired and was born as some are born attracted to the opposite gender or some born attracted to both gender or some born connected to neither gender (asexual).

I would ask those of you to consider people who are born intersexed or hormaphrodites. If a biological variation can occur in physical nature, then surely a neurological variation can be ...and is possible, therefore innately gay can be and is possible.

I would also reccomend that the people who use God and science as their spokeperson for morality to check out the documentary; "For The Bible Tells Me So".(You could probably find it on HULU internet TV or You tube or buy the DVD). There-in lays your proof. This doc is written by a heteroexual so there is no "Gay Agenda" attachment to be attributed.There is scientific proof, there is several accredited assoc. proof...including Am.Psychological Asso. and there is scriptual proof.

Thank you for reading and have a great evening!

Light and love.





you are just being consume by your lust...


Respectfully...I wished it were that simply...I'm way past the maturety level of diffrenciating Making Love From Making Lust.

Please try not to catergorize due to your lack of knowledge or/and experience. And No it isn't a choice for all...some... but not all.

Thank you much!

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:53 PM


Why is it that whenever you correct somebody, they bring up don't judge me thing...
You better judge yourself, so that you will not be judge by others...


Why do you feel the need to correct them?

b'cos i feel like correting them, and that also is my business...

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Wed 11/02/11 11:55 PM
Edited by hyerlevo on Wed 11/02/11 11:58 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnxYQOyLvlY

Queene123's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:58 PM
nothing is wrong being gay

i have a friend that i have known for over 30yrs
didnt know she was gay untill about 26yrs ago
it didnt bother me
and i understood the situation as why she became gay

i also have 2 cousins that are gay

and my own daughter was in a lesbien relationship for a yr
that was truly a wrong influence and nothing but bad news
we all saw who my daughter ex partner was but my daughter was to stubborn to see through the light
my grandkids didnt care for my daughter ex partner

my daughter is now in a solid relationship with a man
and they had a child a month ago

i think that my daughter was going through some form of faze in her life



msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 12:03 AM


How can you say you "love them most in the world" but you consider part of what makes them who they are, you consider "unhealthy and unclean and unnatural"?

Wouldn't your considering that about them taint your love for them?

gay is no part that make them, it is simply part of the choice they make.



I didnt see this question, but your answer is part of how I feel

the other part is that I dont DEFINE people by any action or choice but as a COMBINATION of their character , their actions AND Their words,

and I view ALL people as imperfect, this would be an imperfection in my eyes, but imperfection doesnt taint my ability to love or I could love noone

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Thu 11/03/11 12:10 AM




nope, because those types of decisions can change,,,

we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,,


ha.
'for the sake of our community.'
like it's in great condition or something.
i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason.
you're just trying not to bring it up.
why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed?
if you don't like it,
then don't do it.
the end.
don't stand in the way of their happiness.
[although considering you're bi,
i'm sure you'd like it.
your god just won't let you.
:p]



marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc.


yes, here is where i have big problem with them, if they are not be attrected to the opposite sex then, they don't have the right to want what comes from two opposite sex (which is children) if they can not produce for themself, then they should live without it....

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Thu 11/03/11 12:21 AM







sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



different from KNOWING it has been proven,, there is no unilateral study that showed any correlation that
A) did not occur as well in heterosexuals (albeit a possibly lower rate)

or B) occurred in all homosexual cases


so there is no definitive PROOF of how INNATE preference is,,


If it is a conscious choice, then how do you explain it occurring in animals? Because they were born that way.


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Thu 11/03/11 12:22 AM








sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



different from KNOWING it has been proven,, there is no unilateral study that showed any correlation that
A) did not occur as well in heterosexuals (albeit a possibly lower rate)

or B) occurred in all homosexual cases


so there is no definitive PROOF of how INNATE preference is,,


If it is a conscious choice, then how do you explain it occurring in animals? Because they were born that way.




who says animals dont make choices?

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Thu 11/03/11 12:26 AM





nope, because those types of decisions can change,,,

we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,,


ha.
'for the sake of our community.'
like it's in great condition or something.
i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason.
you're just trying not to bring it up.
why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed?
if you don't like it,
then don't do it.
the end.
don't stand in the way of their happiness.
[although considering you're bi,
i'm sure you'd like it.
your god just won't let you.
:p]



marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc.


yes, here is where i have big problem with them, if they are not be attrected to the opposite sex then, they don't have the right to want what comes from two opposite sex (which is children) if they can not produce for themself, then they should live without it....


What other people do and how they live their lives is none of your business if it does not hurt you.

You are very clearly prejudice and uninformed.

Why do you think you have the right to say who has the right to want children? That's really sad.

noway ohwell

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Thu 11/03/11 12:30 AM






yes we no god dont want two lady together i feel love there justcant help it

don't worry my dear, with time God help you, He helps us all to overcome bad habits. flowerforyou


Are you serious? Don't you know that people are born with their sexual orientation? Its not a "habit."

frustrated frustrated



sex becomes a 'habit'


So does biting your nails and smoking, but to say that God will help a person who is gay overcome a bad habit is just ignorant. Grossly ignorant.



you never mind, she understands and help is on her way....



Mind your own business and you will be a lot happier.

Its people like you who don't know what they are talking about that are the cause of so many young gay people committing suicide.

What would you do if one of your children were gay? You would probably hate them to the point they would want to kill themselves.




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Thu 11/03/11 12:32 AM






nope, because those types of decisions can change,,,

we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,,


ha.
'for the sake of our community.'
like it's in great condition or something.
i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason.
you're just trying not to bring it up.
why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed?
if you don't like it,
then don't do it.
the end.
don't stand in the way of their happiness.
[although considering you're bi,
i'm sure you'd like it.
your god just won't let you.
:p]



marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,,

why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to

there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX


A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc.


yes, here is where i have big problem with them, if they are not be attrected to the opposite sex then, they don't have the right to want what comes from two opposite sex (which is children) if they can not produce for themself, then they should live without it....


What other people do and how they live their lives is none of your business if it does not hurt you.

You are very clearly prejudice and uninformed.

Why do you think you have the right to say who has the right to want children? That's really sad.

noway ohwell


extremely uninformed or should I say misinfiormed and very say.

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Thu 11/03/11 12:32 AM









sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



different from KNOWING it has been proven,, there is no unilateral study that showed any correlation that
A) did not occur as well in heterosexuals (albeit a possibly lower rate)

or B) occurred in all homosexual cases


so there is no definitive PROOF of how INNATE preference is,,


If it is a conscious choice, then how do you explain it occurring in animals? Because they were born that way.




who says animals dont make choices?


DUH! You can't possibly believe that animals have sexual preferences by choice. It is how they were born. Use your head.

I really can't believe people actually believe this garbage. I feel like I'm living in the dark ages.


msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 12:34 AM







yes we no god dont want two lady together i feel love there justcant help it

don't worry my dear, with time God help you, He helps us all to overcome bad habits. flowerforyou


Are you serious? Don't you know that people are born with their sexual orientation? Its not a "habit."

frustrated frustrated



sex becomes a 'habit'


So does biting your nails and smoking, but to say that God will help a person who is gay overcome a bad habit is just ignorant. Grossly ignorant.



you never mind, she understands and help is on her way....



Mind your own business and you will be a lot happier.

Its people like you who don't know what they are talking about that are the cause of so many young gay people committing suicide.

What would you do if one of your children were gay? You would probably hate them to the point they would want to kill themselves.






what would qualify someone as knowing wha thtey are talking about in this discussion

I see alot of opinions flying around on both sides, Im pretty sure everyone participating knows exactly what they are talking about

agreement or not,,

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Thu 11/03/11 12:35 AM
Whatever. I'm done with this ignorant discussion. bye.

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 12:35 AM










sexual orientation, sexual preference, innate vs nurtured really matters not to me

our SEXUAL activities can be changed, I have changed mine from active to abstinent,, I almost changed it from heterosexual to bisexual,, but decided against it,,,

for those who are christian, God is all powerful and like a good parent, will work with us when we are willing to work on ourself...



Almost experimenting with bi-sexual and then deciding not to continue, -- does not a change make.

Yes, sexual activities can be changed. Orientation cannot. That is something that is determined in the womb.







not proven, but one theory,,,


Oh I think its been proven.



different from KNOWING it has been proven,, there is no unilateral study that showed any correlation that
A) did not occur as well in heterosexuals (albeit a possibly lower rate)

or B) occurred in all homosexual cases


so there is no definitive PROOF of how INNATE preference is,,


If it is a conscious choice, then how do you explain it occurring in animals? Because they were born that way.




who says animals dont make choices?


DUH! You can't possibly believe that animals have sexual preferences by choice. It is how they were born. Use your head.

I really can't believe people actually believe this garbage. I feel like I'm living in the dark ages.




animals have a survival instinct, and all species dont survive the same way

whats 'natural' to one species is not automatically natural to all species

what one species does for survival, another species with CONSCIOUS thought(as in human beings) does by choice

some species eat their young, but I wouldnt argue that human cannibals must therefore be 'born that way'....

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Thu 11/03/11 12:39 AM
Blah blah blah blah.... meaningless garbage...

goodnight folks.

flowerforyou waving waving

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Thu 11/03/11 12:53 AM
it is just strangely appaling to me that with marriages such as Britney Spears' or Kim Kardashian's, or pretty much any other celebrity marriage, can be over within a matter of months, days, or even hours, and we as a people are worried about gays destroying the sanctity of marriage. truly ignorant, and quite honestly, it disgusts me that people think this way. to each his own, but please, keep it to yourself.

Now, who wants pie? :banana:

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 01:01 AM
I find the logic that we should not be concerned about one thing if we can find something worse to be concerned about to be flawed


its like saying, why worry who adopts kids when there are so many natural parents who are doing such a poor job

in reality, both issues are important


, and I love pielaugh especially strawberry

KylieWylie's photo
Thu 11/03/11 01:07 AM

I find the logic that we should not be concerned about one thing if we can find something worse to be concerned about to be flawed


its like saying, why worry who adopts kids when there are so many natural parents who are doing such a poor job

in reality, both issues are important


, and I love pielaugh especially strawberry


very well said!

my favorite is boysenberry :heart:
never heard of a strawberry pie before huh

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