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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:28 PM



I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.
well I grew up in Pa. we're enlightened there

I mean it's OK to have varying opinions about our sexuality and even to find the idea of homosexual acts unattractive - which I do - but I can't believe that anyone would refuse to befriend or work with someone who is gay

to treat gay people like anyone else

it doesn't mean you ARE gay

I think people are afraid of guilt by association, but really? have some intestinal fortitude...what if their son or daughter turned out to be gay?

that would change their 'tudes right quick


I agree

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:37 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Wed 11/02/11 06:38 PM





lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So, do you think heterosexuality has underlying issues as well, if people are having sex?



yes ...heterosexuals can also use sex as an escape or temporary fix of other issues,,




Basically what you're saying is anyone having sex (except for procreation) is doing so because of underlying issues. laugh

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:39 PM






lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So, do you think heterosexuality has underlying issues as well, if people are having sex?



yes ...heterosexuals can also use sex as an escape or temporary fix of other issues,,




Basically what you're saying is anyone having sex (except for procreation) is doing so because of underlying issues. laugh


no, its not what Im saying.

I said heterosexuals and homosexuals sometimes use sex because of underlying issues

heterosexuals, however, also use it to become 'one' with their partner the way their bodies are designed to do so,,,


no photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:42 PM




I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.
well I grew up in Pa. we're enlightened there

I mean it's OK to have varying opinions about our sexuality and even to find the idea of homosexual acts unattractive - which I do - but I can't believe that anyone would refuse to befriend or work with someone who is gay

to treat gay people like anyone else

it doesn't mean you ARE gay

I think people are afraid of guilt by association, but really? have some intestinal fortitude...what if their son or daughter turned out to be gay?

that would change their 'tudes right quick


I agree


well as you seem like a person who is very humane in your attitudes that does not surprise me. we are called, I feel, to love each other as brothers (or sisters) even if we aren't all the same

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Wed 11/02/11 06:42 PM





lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So ...its perfectly acceptable for two women to fall in love and spend their lives together as a loving couple ..as long as..God forbid. .they have sex with each other, like Normal, healthy couples do? Which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't consider real sex anyways because its not heterosexual sex..so what difference does it make anyway?

Not being disrespectful ..just confused about your opinion.


its acceptable to love,, yes

its acceptable to spend our lives loving ,,,yes

its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for

I dont consider it sex, I consider it an alternative or lead in to sex, and I consider it as inappropriate as I would a father and daughter performing any of those activities together,,


You don't think even heterosexual people use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction? Do you think that's acceptable at any time?

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:43 PM







lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So, do you think heterosexuality has underlying issues as well, if people are having sex?



yes ...heterosexuals can also use sex as an escape or temporary fix of other issues,,




Basically what you're saying is anyone having sex (except for procreation) is doing so because of underlying issues. laugh


no, its not what Im saying.

I said heterosexuals and homosexuals sometimes use sex because of underlying issues

heterosexuals, however, also use it to become 'one' with their partner the way their bodies are designed to do so,,,




You also said that it isn't acceptable to use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction.

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:44 PM
well my underlying issue better be cute:wink: devil


and have good handslaugh

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:46 PM






lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So ...its perfectly acceptable for two women to fall in love and spend their lives together as a loving couple ..as long as..God forbid. .they have sex with each other, like Normal, healthy couples do? Which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't consider real sex anyways because its not heterosexual sex..so what difference does it make anyway?

Not being disrespectful ..just confused about your opinion.


its acceptable to love,, yes

its acceptable to spend our lives loving ,,,yes

its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for

I dont consider it sex, I consider it an alternative or lead in to sex, and I consider it as inappropriate as I would a father and daughter performing any of those activities together,,


You don't think even heterosexual people use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction? Do you think that's acceptable at any time?


yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:52 PM







lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So ...its perfectly acceptable for two women to fall in love and spend their lives together as a loving couple ..as long as..God forbid. .they have sex with each other, like Normal, healthy couples do? Which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't consider real sex anyways because its not heterosexual sex..so what difference does it make anyway?

Not being disrespectful ..just confused about your opinion.


its acceptable to love,, yes

its acceptable to spend our lives loving ,,,yes

its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for

I dont consider it sex, I consider it an alternative or lead in to sex, and I consider it as inappropriate as I would a father and daughter performing any of those activities together,,


You don't think even heterosexual people use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction? Do you think that's acceptable at any time?


yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)


I have known homosexual couples who very clearly loved each other

I don't like to think about their bedroom ball dancing, but I would not presume to judge either

just to jump in with my.02flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 06:56 PM








lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So ...its perfectly acceptable for two women to fall in love and spend their lives together as a loving couple ..as long as..God forbid. .they have sex with each other, like Normal, healthy couples do? Which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't consider real sex anyways because its not heterosexual sex..so what difference does it make anyway?

Not being disrespectful ..just confused about your opinion.


its acceptable to love,, yes

its acceptable to spend our lives loving ,,,yes

its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for

I dont consider it sex, I consider it an alternative or lead in to sex, and I consider it as inappropriate as I would a father and daughter performing any of those activities together,,


You don't think even heterosexual people use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction? Do you think that's acceptable at any time?


yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)


I have known homosexual couples who very clearly loved each other

I don't like to think about their bedroom ball dancing, but I would not presume to judge either

just to jump in with my.02flowerforyou



two people I love most in the world are also homosexual
I likewise dont like to think about their bedroom ball dancing

I do believe it to be unhealthy and unclean and unnatural , but I dont consider it to be anything that defines them or undermines what wonderful people they are,,

eileena9's photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:01 PM
How can you say you "love them most in the world" but you consider part of what makes them who they are, you consider "unhealthy and unclean and unnatural"?

Wouldn't your considering that about them taint your love for them?

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:03 PM









lol, of course not

we are not CONSTANTLY acting upon our issues with the same outlets,,


so let's say right now my outlet is painting.
the day i decide to go slut it up,
sex will be my outlet.
well alright.
i'll agree that in that case promiscuity will be caused by whatever problem.
let's say i fall in love with a female and i'm happy and blablabla,
i don't think that's an outlet for whatever issue i may have.
therefore,
homosexuality does not have underlying issues.
tadaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:D



of course it does, if a requirement to being in love has become having sex,,,


So ...its perfectly acceptable for two women to fall in love and spend their lives together as a loving couple ..as long as..God forbid. .they have sex with each other, like Normal, healthy couples do? Which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't consider real sex anyways because its not heterosexual sex..so what difference does it make anyway?

Not being disrespectful ..just confused about your opinion.


its acceptable to love,, yes

its acceptable to spend our lives loving ,,,yes

its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for

I dont consider it sex, I consider it an alternative or lead in to sex, and I consider it as inappropriate as I would a father and daughter performing any of those activities together,,


You don't think even heterosexual people use their bodies for physical and sexual satisfaction? Do you think that's acceptable at any time?


yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)


I have known homosexual couples who very clearly loved each other

I don't like to think about their bedroom ball dancing, but I would not presume to judge either

just to jump in with my.02flowerforyou



two people I love most in the world are also homosexual
I likewise dont like to think about their bedroom ball dancing

I do believe it to be unhealthy and unclean and unnatural , but I dont consider it to be anything that defines them or undermines what wonderful people they are,,


I guess that is where I get a little confused. I can't imagine love being unclean or unhealthy and the intimacy of sex is the expression of love that 2 people have for each other

this is where I get a little confused...I do think there is a difference between a couple in love and random homosexual acts tho...just like I would not find random heterosexual acts as healthy choices

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:04 PM


yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)


What is true intimacy to you? And why is it just available to heterosexuals?

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:08 PM

yes, it is acceptable to do so in the way the body was DESIGNED to,,,with the parts that FIT

in a way that requires true INTIMACY and BONDING (eye contact)


so a penis inside a vagina is the only thing that's okay.
why limit your pleasure?
haha.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:19 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 11/02/11 07:21 PM
I feel its unclean (being in the area where FECES is disposed of)
I feel it is unclean (injesting fluids from the area where urine is disposed of)

I feel it is unhealthy (rupturing and tearing internal walls that were meant to push OUT, not take in)

I feel it is unhealthy (licking what may essentially be bacteria and germs from urine and feces)

I feel it is NOT intimate (very little eye to eye contact involved, about as mutually DETACHED as two can be)

BUT, That being explained

it doesnt matter, I Cant control what people do to their bodies or others bodies with 'consent'

I dont and wont approve of everything that one can do to themself or others with 'consent'

and my opinion is my own thing, just like their sexual activity is theres

no use continuing to repeat the same explanations and opinions over and over


If some pretty little girl grows up to think daddy is the bees knees and wants to share her bed and life with him , with his consent

that will be their business, but I wont feel the least bit bad about saying it concerns me,,,,

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:24 PM

I feel its unclean (being in the area where FECES is disposed of)
I feel it is unclean (injesting fluids from the area where urine is disposed of)

I feel it is unhealthy (rupturing and tearing internal walls that were meant to push OUT, not take in)

I feel it is unhealthy (licking what may essentially be bacteria and germs from urine and feces)

I feel it is NOT intimate (very little eye to eye contact involved, about as mutually DETACHED as two can be)

BUT, That being explained

it doesnt matter, I Cant control what people do to their bodies or others bodies with 'consent'

I dont and wont approve of everything that one can do to themself or others with 'consent'

and my opinion is my own thing, just like their sexual activity is theres

no use continuing to repeat the same explanations and opinions over and over


If some pretty little girl grows up to think daddy is the bees knees and wants to share her bed and life with him , with his consent

that will be their business, but I wont feel the least bit bad about saying it concerns me,,,,


What on earth does incest have to do with this? And why are you comparing it to homosexuality?!

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:25 PM
because of the notion that all that should matter is whether two people are adults who 'consent' and love each other

adult incest would fall under that category

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:26 PM
i wonder what your thoughts are on strap ons.
but anyways,
heterosexual couples participate in all of the above too.
they must have underlying issues as well then, no?
damn all these sexual acts used for pleasure.
D:

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Wed 11/02/11 07:27 PM

because of the notion that all that should matter is whether two people are adults who 'consent' and love each other

adult incest would fall under that category


We're still talking about two consenting adults having sex. Not two relatives. You're comparing very different things.

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 07:27 PM

i wonder what your thoughts are on strap ons.
but anyways,
heterosexual couples participate in all of the above too.
they must have underlying issues as well then, no?
damn all these sexual acts used for pleasure.
D:


I've never understood people who don't like sex for pleasure.

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