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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website.  Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema brought to you by Katrina NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either what happened to your wonderful popular mechanics lol HITLER NEWS DAILY......NEWS YOU CAN TRUST FAUX NEWS......FAIR AND BALANCED AS LONG AS ITS OUR AGENDA I HAVE TO POST THE SAME STUFF BECAUSE YOU DONT SEE IT so have we figured out yet why the building that was hit 2nd collapsed first and you can see what appears to be thermite pouring out of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I Jesse Ventura will kick your ssa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORMuta4JCE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs&feature=related |
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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website. Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either Yeah right. ALL the reputable scientific community articles are lies even though they carefully document all their evidence and support all their statements and conclusions with facts. While on the other hand the conspiracy theorists and truthers who have no evidence and only wild speculations and whose arguments are easily shot down are considered more valid. Aw C'mon Now!
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To add to that, wasn't at least one politician warned NOT to fly on 9-11? I seem to recall that. You seem to recally wrong. Oh really? I give you exhibit A: http://makethemaccountable.com/whatwhen/Q01_WhySomeWarned.htm Then why asn't a very close friend of President Bush's (The Solicitor General of the Untited States) warned then? His wife was on the flight that crashed into the Pentagon! If President Bush was really behind it like you said he would protect his "Close" friends. Unless a person knows what the dynamics of people's relationships with each other are, no one can answer a question like that. Maybe she was on that plane, maybe she wasn't. Maybe she died, maybe she didn't. Questions like that are not the ones you need to be asking. There are more important questions that have not been answered. Wow, they have proof of her two calls to her husband after the hijacking started. That's another topic, back at the time of 9-11, there was no way anyone could communicate back to someone on the ground by phone. So explain to me just how she could have called her husband given that? She couldn't have, which would mean someone isn't telling the truth. ??? are you high? lol, they have about 15 phone calls from the flight that crashed into the field... check youtube, they are everywhere... |
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Edited by
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To add to that, wasn't at least one politician warned NOT to fly on 9-11? I seem to recall that. You seem to recally wrong. Oh really? I give you exhibit A: http://makethemaccountable.com/whatwhen/Q01_WhySomeWarned.htm Then why asn't a very close friend of President Bush's (The Solicitor General of the Untited States) warned then? His wife was on the flight that crashed into the Pentagon! If President Bush was really behind it like you said he would protect his "Close" friends. Unless a person knows what the dynamics of people's relationships with each other are, no one can answer a question like that. Maybe she was on that plane, maybe she wasn't. Maybe she died, maybe she didn't. Questions like that are not the ones you need to be asking. There are more important questions that have not been answered. Wow, they have proof of her two calls to her husband after the hijacking started. That's another topic, back at the time of 9-11, there was no way anyone could communicate back to someone on the ground by phone. So explain to me just how she could have called her husband given that? She couldn't have, which would mean someone isn't telling the truth. ??? are you high? lol, they have about 15 phone calls from the flight that crashed into the field... check youtube, they are everywhere... I think it was 37 calls Yes they could. For 1 they tested the phone tech from then and it had a long enough range (again as stated in the video this thread is about if anyone would actually watch it) Secondly have you ever rode on a plane before? They have phones built into the plan that you can use a credit card to call people and use in the air. Most of the calls were made from those. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xErJ4W4vkuU&feature=related minute 8:50 it starts Cell phones from 2001 worked to 50,000 feet and the flight was only about 40,000. Only 2 of those calls were from cells the rest were air phones. |
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This is what happens when there is a lack of trust between citizens and govt. This is what happens when the society is dumb. This is what happens when idiots are focusin upon irrelevant shat.
 Keep 'em dumb, fed, and somewhat happy. |
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We got the dumb part down. The happy depends upon being fed. And poor people are beginning to feel like their not being fed enough.
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i agree, but people have good reasons not to trust the government. they refuse to be open and honest, and then tell more lies to cover up the opening lies. people that just go with the flow, and never question anything are being dumb too. i think there is a balance in there somewhere. but most of these people that believe this 9-11 conspiracy stuff just want to believe it, there is just to much evidence showing it wasn't to much more than what we have been told. but the way the government handled it was less than professional, and that in it self fueled most of these theories.
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Edited by
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Slowhand1,
I am reading the stuff on that Popular Mechanics site when I can find it in the maize of advertisements. I also ordered the 9-11 debunking book by Popular Mechanics and a two other books: "The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Final Official Report About 9/11 Is Unscientific and False." and: "Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory." I will spend some serious time on this information before I proceed with any further discussions on this subject. I also downloaded the entire 565 page official 9-11 report. That's going to be hard to read. Have you read all of that stuff yourself? Has anyone in this thread even read the official 565 page report? I doubt it. I haven't. |
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To add to that, wasn't at least one politician warned NOT to fly on 9-11? I seem to recall that. You seem to recally wrong. Oh really? I give you exhibit A: http://makethemaccountable.com/whatwhen/Q01_WhySomeWarned.htm Then why asn't a very close friend of President Bush's (The Solicitor General of the Untited States) warned then? His wife was on the flight that crashed into the Pentagon! If President Bush was really behind it like you said he would protect his "Close" friends. Unless a person knows what the dynamics of people's relationships with each other are, no one can answer a question like that. Maybe she was on that plane, maybe she wasn't. Maybe she died, maybe she didn't. Questions like that are not the ones you need to be asking. There are more important questions that have not been answered. Wow, they have proof of her two calls to her husband after the hijacking started. That's another topic, back at the time of 9-11, there was no way anyone could communicate back to someone on the ground by phone. So explain to me just how she could have called her husband given that? She couldn't have, which would mean someone isn't telling the truth. With Cellphones, how SEVERAL passengers contacted loved ones after the hijackings. That's just it, they COULDN'T have been able to get service to the ground with them then! So the whole story falls apart right there! If they can't get service to the ground from that high in the air, how are they gonna contact anyone?? I've gotten service in flight before, so I have no clue what you guys are talking about. |
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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website. Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema brought to you by Katrina NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either what happened to your wonderful popular mechanics lol HITLER NEWS DAILY......NEWS YOU CAN TRUST FAUX NEWS......FAIR AND BALANCED AS LONG AS ITS OUR AGENDA I HAVE TO POST THE SAME STUFF BECAUSE YOU DONT SEE IT so have we figured out yet why the building that was hit 2nd collapsed first and you can see what appears to be thermite pouring out of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I Jesse Ventura will kick your ssa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORMuta4JCE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs&feature=related Jesse Ventura is just so credible, especially after he got caught in the lie caliming to be a Seal when he was never one.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Jessie Ventura:
Goes to show you how mad people are with politicians when they elected that num nut into office. I do like what he says in this video though.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related He made the interviewer look like idiots. Reporters are usually not very bright. |
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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website. Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either Yeah right. ALL the reputable scientific community articles are lies even though they carefully document all their evidence and support all their statements and conclusions with facts. While on the other hand the conspiracy theorists and truthers who have no evidence and only wild speculations and whose arguments are easily shot down are considered more valid. Aw C'mon Now! im an electronics tech and a scientist. i guess you would believe al gore over me. but why wouldnt you i dont have a noble peace prize like him and obama and i have never met the queen beast look at all the science behind global warming after ww 1 why couldnt they figure a way not to have ww 2 or ww 3? i might be be smart and handsome but im not here to fool anyone. i have plenty of evidence and plenty of people that know me understand but you dont |
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Slowhand works for Mossad.
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The piece-nik's and conspiracy theroists need to shut their mouths, close their eyes and listen to these two songs, I guarantee there will be some excuse they will make but oh well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU&ob=av2n http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&ob=av2n |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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The piece-nik's and conspiracy theroists need to shut their mouths, close their eyes and listen to these two songs, I guarantee there will be some excuse they will make but oh well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU&ob=av2n http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&ob=av2n Those are good songs and great tools of manipulation. Music is a great tool to manipulate people's emotions. "Have you forgotten 9-11?" Nope we haven't, that's why we are still talking about it. That first song said we need to find out who is behind Bin Laden. That is what we hope we do. It might not be who you think it is. The second song is great to sing to the troops so they can feel good about what they are doing. Not very many people really understand the reason for wars, but if they can feel good about them, it makes them feel better. |
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i agree, but people have good reasons not to trust the government. they refuse to be open and honest, and then tell more lies to cover up the opening lies. people that just go with the flow, and never question anything are being dumb too. i think there is a balance in there somewhere. but most of these people that believe this 9-11 conspiracy stuff just want to believe it, there is just to much evidence showing it wasn't to much more than what we have been told. but the way the government handled it was less than professional, and that in it self fueled most of these theories. If they are gonna refuse to be open about things Moe, how the hell do you know they're gonna tell you the truth about this?? Does a leopard really ever change its' spots? |
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Jessie Ventura: Goes to show you how mad people are with politicians when they elected that num nut into office. I do like what he says in this video though.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related He made the interviewer look like idiots. Reporters are usually not very bright. I don't think there's much wrong with Jesse, though I sort of question a little who he works for to some extent. But at least he speaks out a lot more than most. |
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Slowhand works for Mossad. 
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The piece-nik's and conspiracy theroists need to shut their mouths, close their eyes and listen to these two songs, I guarantee there will be some excuse they will make but oh well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU&ob=av2n http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&ob=av2n Those are good songs and great tools of manipulation. Music is a great tool to manipulate people's emotions. "Have you forgotten 9-11?" Nope we haven't, that's why we are still talking about it. That first song said we need to find out who is behind Bin Laden. That is what we hope we do. It might not be who you think it is. The second song is great to sing to the troops so they can feel good about what they are doing. Not very many people really understand the reason for wars, but if they can feel good about them, it makes them feel better. Yep, and those in power know this, so they use every tool they can do support them. |
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Jessie Ventura: Goes to show you how mad people are with politicians when they elected that num nut into office. I do like what he says in this video though.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related He made the interviewer look like idiots. Reporters are usually not very bright. Jesse Ventura the proven liar. Figures you would take what he says as gospel. |
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