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Seeing as we didn't know who you were talking about, we weren't being unfriendly to him. It's nice of you to stand up for someone, but don't give others a hard time for something they didn't do.
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Ok mom....
Dude.... You know there is nothing you can do to stop me from being the good hearted pr1ck that I am. 
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Know I love ya Sing.....otherwise I wouldn't bother ....
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SpiderCMB said... Top 5 needs of women 1 Affection Women often associate affection with security, comfort, protection and approval. When a man shows his wife affection, he’s sending subliminal messages to her that he’ll take care of her, stand by her and protect her. 2 Conversations When women have intimate conversations with their spouse, it reassures them and make them feel loved and supported. 3 Honesty and openness A women needs to be able to trust her husband completely. When a man doesn’t maintain an honest, open communication with his wife, he undermines her trust. 4 Financial support Many women marry for the financial security their spouse provides. 5 Family commitment A woman needs her husband to be a good father and to be committed to the family. Top 5 needs of Men 1 Sexual fulfillment Most women can go without sex for months, but for men, it’s pure torture. In fact, they would probably do it all the time if they had their way. 2 Recreational companionship Even after marriage, couples should make an effort to involve themselves in their spouses’ activities. 3 An attractive spouse A man needs a wife who looks good to him. 4 Domestic support Most men like having domestic chores like cooking and cleaning done for them. 5 Admiration Men want their wives to be proud of them. So when you tell your husband that he’s wonderful, it motivates him to achieve more. singmesweet said... Many women want the same things on the list you have for men. And why would you think independent women treat men poorly? I see what the problem is. You are taking these lists as exclusive. Men only want the five things listed for them and women only want the five things listed for them. No, it's the top five "needs" from a relationship. Of course women want sex, but is it their highest priority in a relationship? Of course men want honesty, but it usually comes after the top 5. This whole discussion seems to have revolved around your misunderstanding that somehow "Top 5 needs of Men" means "Only needs of Men". Men and women share all the same needs, I'm not talking about needs in total. I was CLEARLY talking about the priority of the needs, how important they generally are to the different genders. Actually, I said some women want the same things as men. I never said anything about lacking honesty. You threw that in there, I didn't. So please, don't put words into my mouth just to make this argument suit your needs. Just because you favor sex over honesty does not mean everyone else works the same. Many are able to be honest while enjoying sex. If you're unable to do that, perhaps that's something you need to work on. Look at the above. You say "I never said anything about lacking honesty.", well neither did I. But men generally value sex over honesty, so when you claim that independent women have the same needs as men, you are in essence saying they generally place sex before honesty, like the average man does. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Sun 07/17/11 04:14 PM
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No, I wasn't taking the list as exclusive.
And yes, you did start talking about women who prefer sex over honesty. I never said anything about that. That's what you assumed, even after I clarified that I didn't say that. |
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No, I wasn't taking the list as exclusive. And yes, you did start talking about women who prefer sex over honesty. I never said anything about that. That's what you assumed, even after I clarified that I didn't say that. Well, have it your way. You are wrong and I'm bored by talking to you. Last statement for you: When you said that some women have the same hierarchy as men, you are saying that they value sex over honesty. You didn't explicitly say that, but you are implicitly saying it. Since men value sex over honesty, a woman who has the same hierarchy of needs as a man, would be a woman who valued sex over honesty. Do you not know what a hierarchy is? Are you incapable of abstract reasoning? |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Sun 07/17/11 06:09 PM
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No, I wasn't taking the list as exclusive. And yes, you did start talking about women who prefer sex over honesty. I never said anything about that. That's what you assumed, even after I clarified that I didn't say that. Well, have it your way. You are wrong and I'm bored by talking to you. Last statement for you: When you said that some women have the same hierarchy as men, you are saying that they value sex over honesty. You didn't explicitly say that, but you are implicitly saying it. Since men value sex over honesty, a woman who has the same hierarchy of needs as a man, would be a woman who valued sex over honesty. Do you not know what a hierarchy is? Are you incapable of abstract reasoning? Everyone is different. I don't believe every woman values the five things you listed over everything else, just as I don't believe that every man values the five things you've listed over everything else. I do think that some women value what you've listed for men and some men value what you've said for women. Do they value these things over others? You'll have to ask specific people to get actual answers, as I cannot speak for anyone but myself. For example, at this point in my life, I do not value someone being a good father over other things, as I have not been married and started a family. If/when I get married and start a family, that will change. It seems that you are incapable of talking down to people who disagree with you. Please stop, as there's no need for it. As for me being wrong, that's fine, as it's your opinion. |
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yes wht totage? is it by choice or they r findng it difficult 2 huk up ?
WELL ME PERSONALLY I FEEL THAT THE MEN THAT THEIR DATING ARENT UP TO THE FEMALES STANDARDS..HELL SHE MAKES HER OWN MONEY N MORE THAN LIKLY HAS HER OWN PLACE SO SHE S JUST NEEDS A MAN TO LOVE HER. BUT WITH ALL THE THINGS SHE HAS HE MIHT JUST BE WITH BECUZ OF HER POSECTIONS AND NOT FOR HER HEART//BUT THAT MY THOUGHTS |
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No, I wasn't taking the list as exclusive. And yes, you did start talking about women who prefer sex over honesty. I never said anything about that. That's what you assumed, even after I clarified that I didn't say that. Well, have it your way. You are wrong and I'm bored by talking to you. Last statement for you: When you said that some women have the same hierarchy as men, you are saying that they value sex over honesty. You didn't explicitly say that, but you are implicitly saying it. Since men value sex over honesty, a woman who has the same hierarchy of needs as a man, would be a woman who valued sex over honesty. Do you not know what a hierarchy is? Are you incapable of abstract reasoning? Everyone is different. I don't believe every woman values the five things you listed over everything else, just as I don't believe that every man values the five things you've listed over everything else. I do think that some women value what you've listed for men and some men value what you've said for women. Do they value these things over others? You'll have to ask specific people to get actual answers, as I cannot speak for anyone but myself. For example, at this point in my life, I do not value someone being a good father over other things, as I have not been married and started a family. If/when I get married and start a family, that will change. It seems that you are incapable of talking down to people who disagree with you. Please stop, as there's no need for it. As for me being wrong, that's fine, as it's your opinion. Yep, he sure has a habit of talking down to women. Must be insecure I guess. 
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hah. I worded that incorrectly. But, you got what I was saying, Navygirl. Yes, he seems incapable of trying to get his point across without talking down to people.
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I always thought Independence was being self sufficiant Except in spelling. |
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How does a person say, "have it your way" and then "youre wrong" ? Whats it gonna be? lol. Me too. That bit confused me. |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Sun 07/17/11 08:23 PM
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klc said... How does a person say, "have it your way" and then "youre wrong" ? Whats it gonna be? and sir Krupa....that poster is a gal...just thought you might wanna know.  singmesweet said... No, I wasn't taking the list as exclusive. SpiderCMB said... Well, have it your way. You are wrong and I'm bored by talking to you. singmesweet said... And yes, you did start talking about women who prefer sex over honesty. I never said anything about that. That's what you assumed, even after I clarified that I didn't say that. SpiderCMB said... Last statement for you: When you said that some women have the same hierarchy as men, you are saying that they value sex over honesty. You didn't explicitly say that, but you are implicitly saying it. Since men value sex over honesty, a woman who has the same hierarchy of needs as a man, would be a woman who valued sex over honesty. Do you not know what a hierarchy is? Are you incapable of abstract reasoning? If you are still confused, you can't blame that on me. |
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Edited by
d24
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Sun 07/17/11 08:27 PM
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I always thought Independence was being self sufficiant Except in spelling. SUFFICIENT You are a smart P you're a smart POS
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hah. I worded that incorrectly. But, you got what I was saying, Navygirl. Yes, he seems incapable of trying to get his point across without talking down to people. 
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It ain't like that my friend. Around here...people speak thier mind and then tommorrow we laugh together again on different stupidities. Sure we bark and snap....what pack of dogs doesnt? at days end....when differences are set aside....everyone here are basically friends. |
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As already discussed, men get a great deal of self-esteem from helping their mate. Independent women don't want help, because they feel that it makes them appear weak. I've met independent women who are constantly pursuing a better mate, regardless of if they are married. It goes back the the normal woman concern for honesty, because she's in it to make a family, so she wants to know she's being treated right. If independent women share the same primary needs as a man, then they don't have a need for honesty and are more likely to cheat. Sometimes manifested as the "cuckoo syndrome". Wherein the woman will marry a good provider, but seek a superior male specimen to produce children. I'd have to disagree there. Just because I am able to do things on my own, it doesn't mean asking for help makes me feel/appear weak. If I need help, I'll definitely ask for it, but I just don't get the pretending to need help in order to make a man happy. As Invictus said earlier, we don't need babysitters. Many of us (men and women) are able to do things on our own. You say it goes back to a normal woman concern for honesty, yet I don't think that has a lot to do with it. If I say I need someone to take my trash out for me because it makes them feel more manly, I'm not being honest, as I can certainly do it myself. As for a woman sharing primary needs with men meaning they will be dishonest and cheat, I think that's a load of bs. It does not make sense at all. Also, you're saying that women are inferior because men are superior?  i think he meant superior to other males, not females... as in the best a woman can find... i don't really think spider was putting down women there |
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i think he meant superior to other males, not females... as in the best a woman can find... i don't really think spider was putting down women there Yep. |
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I always thought Independence was being self sufficiant Except in spelling. SUFFICIENT You are a smart P you're a smart POS No harm or disrespect meant, only fun -- I'm glad you noticed that immediately. :-) |
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