Never understood it. Then they all come complain to me about it!!

Nice guys are f-ing BORING! Azzholes are challenging and fun to women. They'll never admit it, but women like being challenged by confident, somewhat arrogant guys. (Think Han Solo and Princess Leia contrasted with Luke Skywalker and Leia-before he knew they were siblings)

ETA-the jerk types tend to evoke powerful emotional responses in women. This is what appeals to women-not appeals to logic. Attraction is not a choice-it just "happens".

It's really quiet simple,
we are ridiculously stupid.
Truthfully, I married a man who ran off when I was 7 months pregnant
Then i married a violent , man with drug and alcohol problesms
so you would think that I would have learnt
But no i remarried the drongo, because of course he had changed
Then i became involved with a man with alcohol problems again
So why did I pick dooch bags or whatever they are called
Sim;ly because i thought they loved me and i could help

Ok so now many years older, and hopefully wiser, i will not have anyting to do with anyone involved with drugs , alcohol, or who even apears to have an anger issue,

Why, is it because i am now wiser

Nope definately not, it was just that this time i found someone wonderful, Not because i am smarter, just because he sort of fell into my lap.

Otherwise i probably would have been dumb enough to fall for exactly the same type of goose again

Yep this is soooo true
It seems to be the arrogant overconfident men make you think you will be safe and at the same time they appear exciting and fun.

However, the overconfident gooses that I thought would keep me safe , where the most destructive, to themselves and me.

For some reason the men who seem less confident, more sensitive, and gentle, end up being the rock that can hold you steady.
You will also find that they will be the ones who when things get hard will actually stand up and fight for you, they will still be there in the hard times, they will hold you up in the bad times, and they will just keep on loving you faithfully

Where mr macho will probably blame you or hide behind you. Say that they love you but play around with others, and run off when things get tough.

Bad boys are high maintenence.

If you ask me, I think some (not all, maybe not even close to all) just love the drama of it. I mean, from the stories we're told as kids, true love isn't easy. If there's a challenge to it, a beast inside that they think they can tame, even if it means getting hurt in the process, that thrills some women. Of course there's also the fact that the first time girls get teased when we're little someone's always there to tell us that the guy is just being mean because he likes us, and like that we're led to believe assholism=affection. Another excuse I've heard is that they seemed really cool at first, like unbelievably cool, then as time goes on their flaws came out. Why don't women date nice guys? Well... There are a lot of guys that label themselves as "a nice guy" just because they're not so lucky with the ladies, but in reality, they probably have some serious issue that's chasing the ladies off. For example, a friend of mine was cheated on once and never got over it so he takes his paranoia and insecurities out on any women that show interest in him. If a guy actually is nice, most women don't want to risk ruining what they have going with the one guy that is always there for them and proves that not all men are jerks. So if you are a genuinely nice guy, let me just say it's not you, it's us.

Don't know, it's never happened to me before. I did find someone years ago who could not trust me because of what an ex did to him before we met. After so many years later, I had to give up on the relationship. I have had a few friends that tried to be ***holes but I still don't know why the nice guys choose that root and I probably will never know because I just can't be bothered by it. It's been kinda funny though because my guy friends were the ones complaining about the females that they found and all I could say was "it's your choice" most of my female friends seemed happy to be with ***holes and I still don't understand why but once again it's their choice and not mine. :)

Cause Nice Guys Finish Last. Hell, Green Day laid it out pretty straight for everybody years ago.

I feel ya man. I've thought about becoming one of the ********, but ya know, it's just not me...

At least I don't have to worry about spending my money on a woman.

Because I'm fun, she enjoys being with me, and only she knows how I really am inside.

Firstly, he's only an *** from your point of view. From her point of view he's a cool, alpha guy.

They complain to you because they think of you as a friend and that's what girls do with their friends.

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people mess up so what !!!!!

Awesome. Another nice guy thread.

Nice guys wrong questions. They should ask how they cold improve themselves to become more attractive.

Nice guys don't finish last. Self proclaimed nice guys who whine about everything finish last. They're not really nice guys.

Genuine nice guys aren't going to describe themselves as such.

It wouldnt be fair to say only ladies makes mistake in choosing right person...this happens about men too...obviously.

I think chances of choosing wrong person or atleast thinking so(even if he is not)are more with ladies than guys & this is beacause of difference in level of dependance.

In general ladies are more dependent on men & they have more expectations from men whereas the expectations of men from ladies are usually upto being loyal,honest,good homemaker,presentable etc.

So unless a blunder made a man usually dont think he has made a mistake while choosing her,but ladies usually compare with others & keeps on thinking so, whenever their expectations from partner are not met.

After analyzing this phenomenon for 740 years, I've come to the conclusion that women really don't care what kind of guy he is -- they just want someone they can change....!

In my UN-scientific opinion the following is my take on thetypes of men:

1. Nice guys. His mother taught him that to attract a woman you have to:
a. Open the door for her
b. Hold her coat
c. Never argue with her
d. Always be polite
e. Etc...
These are desireable once one is in a relationaship with a woman but they do not teach a man how to draw her attention. Mother's teach their son's how to treat their mother's not draw other women. I'll get heat for this but it seems the average nice guy doesn't really understand how a woman's mind works and ends up boring her.

2. Jerks and bad boys. These types have a personality disorder that happens to have a few character traits that women like. They are uncontrollable, exciting, a challenge and always manupulating and triggering a woman's emotions.

3. Enlightened nice guy. Probably what most women are looking for but can't find. He is the basic nice guy with no intent on using a woman and then dumping her to the curb for a new "side of beef". This man understands how a woman's emotions can be directed and channeled to draw her towards himself if he desires a relationship. Once a woman finds one of these they can't get enough of him.

My opinion on the percentages are as such:

1. Nice guys: 80%
2. Jerks and bad boys: 15%
3. Enlightened nice guy: 5%

In high school and college we all new a minority of men who lived by the philosophy of, "stamp out virginity". They manipulated women to get sex, dumped them and moved on to the next conquest. I knew a guy (not a friend) who use to keep a pubic hair collection of each girl he had sex with. I thought he was sick. Unfortunately, these guys made the rounds and soon the women were to bitter and gun shy about dating anyone and we, the nice guys, usually felt their anger.

My gut instinct tells me that society hasn't changed all that much since high school/college days. The men who message women for sex probably hit every woman in there area: mass mailing. This gives the immage that ALL MEN ARE LIKE THIS. No, we are not.

Waw....nice attempt....

Is that Un-Scientific?????

then if asked for scientific analysis from you shall we be able to read & understand all that Indiana??

The reason "nice guys" have trouble is because they aren't really nice. They try to buy women with gifts or favors or by kissing butt. They think if they can show her how useful they are to have around she'll fall in love or at least give him a little sex.

Douchebags, on the other hand, challenge her. She never knows if he likes her or not and that makes her want to chase him.