Not at all. As was already said above, most women don't go for a guy because he's a douchebag. Re-read what she wrote.

there's the false dichotomy

(geez I'm nicer to you guys than you are to yourselves)

men are not: either/ or
nice/not nice

men are individual people with personalities, likes, dislikes, faults, and awesome characteristics combined - not a collection of things women "want"

some guys are pretty far out there on the extreme of doucheism but not really all that many in my expereince

Cool...people actually know how to spell the word "douche"


Allow me to point out the obvious here kids....


Some guys ARE douche bags.
SOME women ARE comfortable with guys who treat them like crap.

I used to wonder about it too.

Then I had a moment of clarity.

I DON'T WANT those women.

Let em go be miserable.

If a woman is willing to settle for less....good. Let some a-hole treat her like crap cause I want nothing to do with her.

I won't waste my time on some who is a masochist. If being miserable and having chosen a dikhead to treat her bad is where a woman wants to be....I say "good for her".

That is her choice.

If the problem is, You want a woman who wants to be treated like sh** and you won't treat her bad.....then you are the one with poor taste in women.

In theory, that's correct, but I'm sure that you know as well as anybody that, for much of our lives, we guys think with our *****.

thanks krupa

it must be the six years of French in school

I like ur post BTW

and I agree that it's prolly more functional to find someone who DOES like u the way u r than worry about the ones who don't

I have excellent taste in men! I'm just afraid of them < talk about functional

Right....Like I think.....

Truthfully....my penis has made every important descision in my life since I was 9 years old.

OK. This is something I don't get. I said "di*ks", and it got bleeped. You said "penis", and that was OK. I don't understand the rules here.

it is a matter of learning the technicalities my good man.

Penis and vagina are strictly physical anatomy. They aint considered dirty...unless you know how to use them.

Slang terms have different strictures and several variants of words like Diq or pu$$y or @$$ and several common variants automatically get bleeped....you have to understand that the censor program locks out some words and a few variants....but, with a little creativity, you can still get your point across.

Replace the word *icks with "peni" or "penises"

So true.

You want to see which men are control freaks and have the potential for violence, go see News and Current events.

If you disagree they call you names. Imagine if a "weaker type" was in front of them. BAM! Right in the kisser!

Ok....

Back to the actual topic....

I just had an epiphany....

I turned the question around and you know what?

I understand......

I like the dirty and bad girls. I like em to laugh and smile while being bad.

It is such a turn on.

Please don't misunderstand....I value other traits too:

....Sheer intellect, compassion, grace, the kiss that keeps me awake at night wanting another one.....

But honestly.....I am a dirty fun man in the bed and I prefer women who have fun being naked too.

This is specifically why I never tried with the "Too nice", "Pure or Innocent" types...I feel kinda bad about breaking them.

I'm in that Madonna/whore camp. I want it all.

See? It's not just women who can be unreasonable.

I like that feeling of freshness anytime of the day when the mood strikes!

not sure I understand the topic progression here but ya

krupa and artlo are straight "up" nice guys 4 shure

I don't see why some women would have some bad experiences in life -regards to men -
then end that relationship .....and start another that's worse than the one before ..

I have heard this saying before, not sure how much of you have heard it
'If he doesn't beat me then he doesn't love me '

self esteem cause this problem , how can you love somebody else more than how you love yourself ?

Wow, Kiss. That is a huge topic. I doubt that here are many people here qualified to discuss it. I'll be watching.

High five Bro!

I may not be qualified to open my mouth here, but, what da' hell.
I'll be watching.

I have seen and done some of the same myself.
I have also done the monkey thang.
Wouldn't let go of one woman until I had another in hand.
Never took time to heal.

Just taking time out isn't healing, IMO.

how you love someone more than your self is something that you expereince when you fall in love with a man deserving of it

and at some other times like the birth of ur children

real love has a selfless component - but it does not ask that you lose ur self respect

hopefully we have evolved as a species to the point where we recognize that violence is NOT part of the love equation

it is an attempt to control someone - that has no place in love - but for some the "control" factor is the hardest thing for them to let go of, but you have to

....to set him free....and if he comes back, he's yours

so to speak

I'm rambling a little here but I think kissable raises some interesting issues

While I can not say that I have heard that actual phrase...Unfortunately, I know that mentality.

Unfortunately, directly pertinent to the Ex reference.

The first time I met her little 4'8" Guadalajaran father...He said straight up..."If she gets mouthy with you...you slap her down"




I was sooooooooo insulted. He had no concept of me teaching womens self defense classes at battered womens shelters during the days of Krupa's KyokushinKia Karate' School. We did it cause it was the right thing to do....no money or fees....just to help.



In the end....I hate to admit....the little old man was right....


In the end....I had to walk away cause I wasn't willing to beat the crap out of a viscious and unfaithful woman.

20/20 hindsight and all.......