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if i have to lie to save my a$$ or to get subcontractors to show up,hell yeah i'll lie
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In the Bible, Jesus tells several perables. These are stories meant to teach a moral and/or spiritual value. Like the perable of the prodigal son, it told a story that conveyed the message that we are always within God's grace. Taken literally, one could say that Jesus lied because the people in the parable never existed. I think my point is clear on this??? Okay. Did the prodigal son exist??? once again, the commandment is actually this You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor |
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Oh My Gosh, what has happened here.  How can it get so disturbing when people are asked to state their opinion, WE all have our own.
Cheer Up, You asked for peoples opinions, and please dont take this wrong, because you are a wonderful guy  LOL my Gosh I would marry if you were older  But people have given you their honest opinions and you have knocked them down, Yes I believe that lying is wrong, I have a strong belief in God and his word although I have not been walking with him for a long time.
But if someone else feels that they have a reason to lie then it is not for me to judge them, In the bible it tells me that I am not allowed to, if someone is doing something wrong then God will put it on their heart when he wants to, he doesnt use people to accuse. someone pointing the finger in Gods name will only push them further from him . Please dont take this wrong as this is only my opinion and I will not for any reason ever argue with anyone. It shows nothing but the need to be right. Remember no one is wrong in this thread as it is our own opinion.
As for Santa, I love the story of him, but my children alway knew he wasnt real. I told them that He was a real man who made gifts for children and then took them around in his sleigh to deliver them to children who didnt have things, this was how the story of santa began. This is actually true, however we still had great fun visiting santa in the shops, it is the same with the tooth fairy and all the other childrens things, my children have always known the truth but only because I chose to tell them, not because someone told me I had to, that is what I believe. I love fairytails, my son thinks that I live in a fairytale world because I like to think that everyone will always be nice to me. And he trys to tell me that their are bad things out there, but I dont choose to see that in anyone. Hmm started to ramble there. 
Anyway Cheer Up you are great, but if you want people to open up to you, Maybe if you could put your opinion across with a little more love it would go down easier  with my children when they do something I dont agree with, if I tell them that they have to do something as an order they tend to rebel, which is understandable because noone wants to be told that they have to do something But if I sit down and lovingly take the time to explain why I think that they need to make a different choice, they listen, and even if they dont agree, we never have to be upset with each other. And with 6 children in the house you definately dont want them offended.
Anyway I just found it really sad that a great topic could turn out so wrong
And I really hope I havent upset anyone, but as with everyone else, we are all allowed to have our own opinion and hopefully be able to share it with each other and recieve no judment for what we say. You are all great. And as for God the Bible also says that he looks at each persons heart. so he see's what you are doing and why. and he is a God of forgiveness and love, and it will always be whats in your heart when you do something that he will look at first . Please all try and remember that his greatest comandment is to love .
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Sometimes you need to weigh a lie against the hurt feelings and do the lesser of two evils
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This thread has been moved since it is being based off of Religion thoughts.
Many members have different Religion Beliefs or none at all. Therefore if questions are based off of Religion please make sure they are in the correct Forums. Site Mod Kristi |
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Dude..........take this crap to the religion forums. I need biblical tripe shoved into my face about as much as I need a new hemmoroid. Respectfully.............Krupa guess which of those two statements is a lie........ |
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This thread has been moved since it is being based off of Religion thoughts. Many members have different Religion Beliefs or none at all. Therefore if questions are based off of Religion please make sure they are in the correct Forums. Site Mod Kristi |
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Sometimes you need to weigh a lie against the hurt feelings and do the lesser of two evils
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I am Curious on your comments about this cause in the Bible says thou shall not Lie now what do you think about Lies??? Everyone lies for one reason or another..if lies really are bad then there is NO REASON for a heaven because everyone lies..If someone tells you that they never lie..that's their lie right there!..lol |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one.
Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. Of course you don't look fat in that dress! |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. Exodus 1:15-21 Joshua 2:1-7 Genesis 20:1-18 |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. Of course you don't look fat in that dress! No, the jeans are not what makes your but look big... |
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Are all truths right? I liked your question.
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Edited by
josie68
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Mon 12/13/10 02:30 PM
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Oh My Gosh, what has happened here. How can it get so disturbing when people are asked to state their opinion, WE all have our own.
Cheer Up, You asked for peoples opinions, and please dont take this wrong, because you are a wonderful guy LOL my Gosh I would marry if you were older But people have given you their honest opinions and you have knocked them down, Yes I believe that lying is wrong, I have a strong belief in God and his word although I have not been walking with him for a long time.
But if someone else feels that they have a reason to lie then it is not for me to judge them, In the bible it tells me that I am not allowed to, if someone is doing something wrong then God will put it on their heart when he wants to, he doesnt use people to accuse. someone pointing the finger in Gods name will only push them further from him . Please dont take this wrong as this is only my opinion and I will not for any reason ever argue with anyone. It shows nothing but the need to be right. Remember no one is wrong in this thread as it is our own opinion.
As for Santa, I love the story of him, but my children alway knew he wasnt real. I told them that He was a real man who made gifts for children and then took them around in his sleigh to deliver them to children who didnt have things, this was how the story of santa began. This is actually true, however we still had great fun visiting santa in the shops, it is the same with the tooth fairy and all the other childrens things, my children have always known the truth but only because I chose to tell them, not because someone told me I had to, that is what I believe. I love fairytails, my son thinks that I live in a fairytale world because I like to think that everyone will always be nice to me. And he trys to tell me that their are bad things out there, but I dont choose to see that in anyone. Hmm started to ramble there.
Anyway Cheer Up you are great, but if you want people to open up to you, Maybe if you could put your opinion across with a little more love it would go down easier with my children when they do something I dont agree with, if I tell them that they have to do something as an order they tend to rebel, which is understandable because noone wants to be told that they have to do something But if I sit down and lovingly take the time to explain why I think that they need to make a different choice, they listen, and even if they dont agree, we never have to be upset with each other. And with 6 children in the house you definately dont want them offended.
Anyway I just found it really sad that a great topic could turn out so wrong
And I really hope I havent upset anyone, but as with everyone else, we are all allowed to have our own opinion and hopefully be able to share it with each other and recieve no judment for what we say. You are all great. And as for God the Bible also says that he looks at each persons heart. so he see's what you are doing and why. and he is a God of forgiveness and love, and it will always be whats in your heart when you do something that he will look at first . Please all try and remember that his greatest comandment is to love .
Ok Cheer Up, I agree that a lie is a lie, I just believe that there are ways to put things across to others and gently is much better then having it shoved down your neck with a shovel.
Sometimes we do so much more damage with force. I painted on my wall a few years ago "God said it, I believe it, That settles it." and I still believe that it not that you are saying anything wrong, its just how you are delivering it, honestly if I didnt know God and read this page I sure wouldn't want to know him where is the caring and understanding, just be a little moe gentle , I have been to churches where because my husband was a drop kick the poeples children whernt allowed to associate, with mine, where I was repeatedly sent back to an abusive husband because apparently I need to be an example to her husband. Dont ever turn into someone who just uses the word of God but doesnt use their heart to see.
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In the Bible, Jesus tells several perables. These are stories meant to teach a moral and/or spiritual value. Like the perable of the prodigal son, it told a story that conveyed the message that we are always within God's grace. Taken literally, one could say that Jesus lied because the people in the parable never existed. I think my point is clear on this??? Okay. Did the prodigal son exist??? once again, the commandment is actually this You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor yes, but websters definition came centuries after the bible was written, so I have to go on what was going on during biblical times and take that in context,,,to mean exactly what it says , do not lie on your neighbor |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(ex:20:16) the shortened lazier interpretations shortened that to though shalt not lie,,,but that is not actually the commandment |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(ex:20:16) the shortened lazier interpretations shortened that to though shalt not lie,,,but that is not actually the commandment Correct... And if one wishes to be litteral in interpretation, I personally don't see how anyone could see an enemy as a neighbor. But anyways, since it was said "Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE.", I wonder how anyone can defend Sunday as the Sabath? Exodus 20:8 (KJV) 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. |
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There are several examples in the Bible where lies were told in order to protect life. There is even a "righteous" man who told one. Did those Germans who lied to protect Jews and others do wrong? I think not... So my opinion... A lie to protect life = good. All other lies = bad. All lies are wrong. "Thou shall not lie". There are no subtitles, fine print, or anything. No exceptions. Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE. "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(ex:20:16) the shortened lazier interpretations shortened that to though shalt not lie,,,but that is not actually the commandment Correct... And if one wishes to be litteral in interpretation, I personally don't see how anyone could see an enemy as a neighbor. But anyways, since it was said "Says straight up THOU SHALL NOT LIE.", I wonder how anyone can defend Sunday as the Sabath? Exodus 20:8 (KJV) 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. ya lost me here pete,,lol (its me, Im foggy today,,,lol) I am sure its possible to have neighbors who are 'not friends' |
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