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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! |
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If religion were not so "unverifiable" and based on faith so much then people would not get so zealous about the "beating" of the belief into their children which in turn would not create the illogical evil religious zealots. So religion has to take some of the responsibility. Or the parent who teach it need to take all the blame for brainwashing their children into a world of illogical fantasy land that doesn't mesh well with the reality of life. people don't have faith in God because they do not want to believe someone/something is greater then them has control of there life. Most people think they are in control of there life and are adult so they should have nothing to answere to higher up then them. It's an ego form. I just pray that they will open there eyes and see the only truth before it's to late for them. I know the truth and since there is not one bit of concrete evidence to prove there is a god i have control of my life yet i still answer to my mum!!  Anna x
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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig.Maybe when you die you can stand before God and say"I figured it was your will to have Israel destroyed by the Muslims and all the Christians murdered because we should not fight back and defend ourselves" and see what he says.I on the other hand will say "Lord I fought evil till my last dying breath.I defended Israel and the Christians and died in your name doing your will".We will see who he favors more. |
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Edited by
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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig.Maybe when you die you can stand before God and say"I figured it was your will to have Israel destroyed by the Muslims and all the Christians murdered because we should not fight back and defend ourselves" and see what he says.I on the other hand will say "Lord I fought evil till my last dying breath.I defended Israel and the Christians and died in your name doing your will".We will see who he favors more. 'Thomas', your comments in the post above brilliantly make the ultimate case proving the OP initiative in proposing : '... RELIGION ENDANGERS HUMANITY AND ITS FUTURE...' No one could have nailed the premise as solidly as you have 'thomas'. The religious dogma of fundamentalist christians is amongst the most primitive, barbaric and warmongering the world over. No need for biblical fortune telling, christians fanatics are pushing as hard as they can to CAUSE an end-of-world scenario. They just HAVE TO!!! ... 'cause it's written in their 'god book', and they absolutely need to make everything in that book 'come true', regardless of the abominations and havoc they must cause to reach their 'god' goal!!! Christian fundamentalists Endangering humanity and its future? YOU BET!!! Thanks for nailing the case 'thomas'. |
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Interestingly, I just listened to a radio program about religion, that every group of humans studied has some type of religious belief system. Some folks suggest that a religon is evolutionary thing, its helps us survive as a species.
Another person suggested it acts like a virus, because every human group every studied has the common cold too, it exists just to replicate itself. That it is a 'parasite' on the human brain. |
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Edited by
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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig.Maybe when you die you can stand before God and say"I figured it was your will to have Israel destroyed by the Muslims and all the Christians murdered because we should not fight back and defend ourselves" and see what he says.I on the other hand will say "Lord I fought evil till my last dying breath.I defended Israel and the Christians and died in your name doing your will".We will see who he favors more. 'Thomas', your comments in the post above brilliantly make the ultimate case proving the OP initiative in proposing : '... RELIGION ENDANGERS HUMANITY AND ITS FUTURE...' No one could have nailed the premise as solidly as you have 'thomas'. The religious dogma of fundamentalist christians is amongst the most primitive, barbaric and warmongering the world over. No need for biblical fortune telling, christians fanatics are pushing as hard as they can to CAUSE an end-of-world scenario. They just HAVE TO!!! ... 'cause it's written in their 'god book', and they absolutely need to make everything in that book 'come true', regardless of the abominations and havoc they must cause to reach their 'god' goal!!! Christian fundamentalists Endangering humanity and its future? YOU BET!!! Thanks for nailing the case 'thomas'. Kinda like this eh? Scary thought....  |
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Edited by
voileazur
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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig.Maybe when you die you can stand before God and say"I figured it was your will to have Israel destroyed by the Muslims and all the Christians murdered because we should not fight back and defend ourselves" and see what he says.I on the other hand will say "Lord I fought evil till my last dying breath.I defended Israel and the Christians and died in your name doing your will".We will see who he favors more. 'Thomas', your comments in the post above brilliantly make the ultimate case proving the OP initiative in proposing : '... RELIGION ENDANGERS HUMANITY AND ITS FUTURE...' No one could have nailed the premise as solidly as you have 'thomas'. The religious dogma of fundamentalist christians is amongst the most primitive, barbaric and warmongering the world over. No need for biblical fortune telling, christians fanatics are pushing as hard as they can to CAUSE an end-of-world scenario. They just HAVE TO!!! ... 'cause it's written in their 'god book', and they absolutely need to make everything in that book 'come true', regardless of the abominations and havoc they must cause to reach their 'god' goal!!! Christian fundamentalists Endangering humanity and its future? YOU BET!!! Thanks for nailing the case 'thomas'. Kinda like this eh? Scary thought.... That my friend, is the picture of APOCALYPSE!!! Behind those cute little faces and picture perfect smiles, are soul thirsty soldiers ... ... « fighting evil to their last dying breath. (and mercenaries) defending Israel and the Christians (bashing, abusing, profiteering from and bombing everyone else) ready to die in their god's name doing its will» ... as 'thomas' so aptly put it earlier. |
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Interestingly, I just listened to a radio program about religion, that every group of humans studied has some type of religious belief system. Some folks suggest that a religon is evolutionary thing, its helps us survive as a species. Another person suggested it acts like a virus, because every human group every studied has the common cold too, it exists just to replicate itself. That it is a 'parasite' on the human brain. When it comes to propagation, it seems to me that all beliefs act like virus - religious beliefs, anti-religious beliefs, non-religious beliefs, it doesn't matter. Some beliefs are organized in ways that make the system of beliefs more effective at propagating. Even these beliefs that I am expressing in this post acts like a virus. |
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blaming religion for atrocities committed is the same as blaming the Y chromosome for it. Stalin committed atrocities...what was his excuse? he was crazy. Those that can make you believe absurbities can make you comit attrocities. most religions are make to manipulate. ok...so he is excused but the reasons for others can ONLY be because of religion????? It's ok for Stalin but not others? The Y chromosome argument is just as valid as blaming religion, especially since not all who are religious do these things either. Can you tell me that Atheists can't be extremists too????? Maybe it's not the person's beliefs that make them do it, but instead they hide behind it as an excuse Where does it say "witches should be burned" in the bible? Could you provide the verse on that one? Matthew 13:49-50 "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." [22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Burn baby burn? So the first verse basically says the evil and the good will be seperated in the end times and the evil will be thrown in fire.I think anyone with a basic understanding of Christianity already knows about heaven and hell.I didn't read anywhere where it told the Chrisitians to burn withces or did it even mention witches. The second verse is a very broad statement,complicated,and it is hard trying to explain it to a non believer.We would have to look into what the bible would define who or what a witch is.Most people look at witches in modern society as ugly women with pointed hats that ride on broomsticks.Obviously that type of description thousands of years ago was not accurate.I found the verse interesting as I don't remember reading it before and did some reasearch on the subject. Before Jesus died for our sins the wages of sin was death.To say that God was not very forgiving for sinful and evil people is a understatement.Unlike today where anyone can do anything they want and they don't have to worry about God striking them down dead,it was a different time in the old testament.God often spoke and warned people and towns through Moses that they would perish if they disobeyed God.The old testament gives many accounts of God not only destroying certain people but also entire cities.Exodus talks in detail about what God said we should and should not do.I found these other verses with out hardly looking... 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. In the old testament if you ignored these laws of God there was a very real possiblity you would end up dead either by Gods hand or by the hands of the Jews who enforced them.Was this type of punishment by death justified?Yes it was.If God told the Jews not to let witches live back then and they killed one this would not be a sin in Gods eyes as this is what he commanded us to do. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for the sins of everyone in this world including the unbelivers and the witches.Death by Gods destruction was no longer a factor since his son already payed for their sins with his blood.Because of this God does not enforce his old laws and their punishments by death.Does this mean that the old testament should be null and void?Not at all.What it does mean is that as modern day Christians we should avoid all evil,do as God and Jesus instructed us to do,and to leave life and death matters to God as he is the final judge. Rom. 13:1-4 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. (NASB) Rom. 13:1-4 Nothing you state matters after starting a thread about going and bombing an entire country....disgusting!! If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig.Maybe when you die you can stand before God and say"I figured it was your will to have Israel destroyed by the Muslims and all the Christians murdered because we should not fight back and defend ourselves" and see what he says.I on the other hand will say "Lord I fought evil till my last dying breath.I defended Israel and the Christians and died in your name doing your will".We will see who he favors more. 'Thomas', your comments in the post above brilliantly make the ultimate case proving the OP initiative in proposing : '... RELIGION ENDANGERS HUMANITY AND ITS FUTURE...' No one could have nailed the premise as solidly as you have 'thomas'. The religious dogma of fundamentalist christians is amongst the most primitive, barbaric and warmongering the world over. No need for biblical fortune telling, christians fanatics are pushing as hard as they can to CAUSE an end-of-world scenario. They just HAVE TO!!! ... 'cause it's written in their 'god book', and they absolutely need to make everything in that book 'come true', regardless of the abominations and havoc they must cause to reach their 'god' goal!!! Christian fundamentalists Endangering humanity and its future? YOU BET!!! Thanks for nailing the case 'thomas'. I have no idea what you are talking about because I don't see a holy war with millions of Christians threatning to take over the world.Nor do I see a single Christian on the news threatning to kill anyone.I do see however see Iran using the Muslim religion threatning death and destruction to the United states and Israel And yes he is also threatning to kill you and your fellow Atheist here in America. You really need to stop with the it's the Christians,Christians,Christians speech because it's getting old,has no truth in it,and makes you look like you have nothing better to do then to blame every problem in the world on the very evil,very bad,reason for all the worlds problems Christians. Please tell me where are these Christian fanatics I keep hearing about???Please for once show me something anything that has a shred of truth about the BS you keep talking about?Give me a link,show me a article,show me something anything on how these so called Christian fanatics are in any way threatening this world.You keep talking about how the Christians are running everything and how they are responsible for everything and according to you will be responsible for the end of the world.So please give me something other than hot air. I do agree there are is a big problem with a certain religion called Islam which if you stop blaming the Christians for all the worlds problems would realize that most of the worlds current problems are coming from the Muslim religion not the Christian one. Please do yourself a favor.Take a cold shower and look in the mirror.Because the hate you have for Christianity is so radical you probably should be writing speeches for the Iranian President. |
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Most of the worlds problems? wow, thats gonna be a hard one to validate with real evidence.....
Most of the worlds problems are due to Greed and selfishness, which is inside of humans from all religous and non religous backgrounds. |
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Most of the worlds problems? wow, thats gonna be a hard one to validate with real evidence..... Most of the worlds problems are due to Greed and selfishness, which is inside of humans from all religous and non religous backgrounds. I was speaking from a standpoint if we had to take a look at the worlds religions and the problems they cause,who would be creating the most problems in the world today.It is the Islamic religion which threatens innocent people all over the world through terrorism.I mention Islam specifically since these terrorist are killing in the name of the Islam and their God,justifying killing innocent people using bible verses,and claiming that this is a Holy war is a war between Islam and the world.I am not blaming all the worlds problems on Islam or any religion.I just said that because Islam's and the problems they are making for the world are far more problematic,dangerous,and radical than any of the other religions on earth today. |
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Most of the worlds problems? wow, thats gonna be a hard one to validate with real evidence..... Most of the worlds problems are due to Greed and selfishness, which is inside of humans from all religous and non religous backgrounds. I was speaking from a standpoint if we had to take a look at the worlds religions and the problems they cause,who would be creating the most problems in the world today.It is the Islamic religion which threatens innocent people all over the world through terrorism.I mention Islam specifically since these terrorist are killing in the name of the Islam and their God,justifying killing innocent people using bible verses,and claiming that this is a Holy war is a war between Islam and the world.I am not blaming all the worlds problems on Islam or any religion.I just said that because Islam's and the problems they are making for the world are far more problematic,dangerous,and radical than any of the other religions on earth today. It is very difficult to engage in a fruitful exchange here 'thomas'. You inexplicably appear to hold the US and some of its christian citizens, and Isreal and some of its Jewish citizens, as THE VICTIMS OF AN IRANIAN AGRESSOR. You clearly stated: « ... If trying to save Israel and the United states from nuclear holocaust by a evil dictator who wants all the Jews and Christians murdered is disgusting then I am a pig... » This has got to be one of the greatest prestidigitator tricks I've been given to witness. Akin to a little boy with rocks in his hands, against the most powerful military nation that is aiming all its nuclear armament and superpower might at the boy. ... and the LITTLE BOY IS THE AGGRESSOR!!! If people in your circle of christian fundamentalist friends buy this 'delusional trick' thomas, that is part of the DANGER TO HUMANITY this thread is addressing. Read-up on the story of David and Goliathin in your 'god' book . That's what we've got here. Only, David is a muslim boy, and Goliath is the christian 'beast'. A quick read on current geopolitics would go a long way to help you review your profoundly misguided and erroneous stand on this situation 'thomas'. Iran, the heart of the historically proud and dignified Persian civilization, is 'cornered' in its own middle eastern part of the planet. At first, England, for first part of the 20th century, and then the US for the latter part until 1979 (fall of the Shah), indiscriminately exploited Iran and its people (arm's lenght) for its petroleum resources, ... and since 1979, Iran is cornered for having ejected the colonial giant, and for resisting it's Imperial 'Goliath' might. Dogmatic religious convictions have a way of making people blind. I am not condoning Islamic fanaticism anymore than the christian brand. But confusing Iran as the aggressor, and the US and Israel as the poor victims, is an insult to human intelligence. Religious fanaticism is without doubt a severe brain virus, and a danger to humanity! |
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