You were talking about traditional etiquette. If it was added in 2007, is that traditional?

The Salute
To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

We'll just have to agree to disagree . You find it disrespectful for the President not to put his hand over his heart. I do not find it disrespectful.

Wow TJ, I give you credit for trying, but something so simple can be so complicated to others.

So you hold him accountable to what? To do something because you think it's proper? Just want to clarify..

It is not as far as I can tell traditional for our commender and chief to salute the flag. You did say we were talking about what's traditionally acceptable right?

To me some controlling group makes up some rule to formally follow a ritual that is then forced on others to conform to. Nope, sorry not a conformist.

The Salute
To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

It's just a simple matter of respect, but hey respect doesn't mean much to everyone apparently.

If he can't show them a simple respectful gesture, well he shouldn't expect the same from them right? Just thinking.

yes...just like other etiquettes. but I also stated that not everyone has the same opinion and I have my own reasons behind my opinion

I"m not forcing anyone to believe as me. I am stating MY opinion and acknowledging that others believe different

I'm not saying others are wrong for their opinions...I'm saying I don't agree

Not complicated at all. Don't tell others what they should and should not do. Simple! You want to follow, go ahead, who's stopping you. It's a free country last I heard. Nothing complicated about being free to express yourself as you see fit.

Obama has my respect for being an individual with his own mind.

I don't know why I'm posting this because some of you wont read it. How do I know this ? because I've posted several portions of it and it was just ignored. But what the heck I'll do it. Some might appreciate it.

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

Flag Etiquette
STANDARDS of RESPECT
The Flag Code, which formalizes and unifies the traditional ways in which we give respect to the flag, also contains specific instructions on how the flag is not to be used. They are:

The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard
The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.

The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.

When a flag is so worn it is no longer fit to serve as a symbol of our country, it should be destroyed by burning in a dignified manner.



Note: Most American Legion Posts regularly conduct a dignified flag burning ceremony, often on Flag Day, June 14th. Many Cub Scout Packs, Boy Scout Troops, and Girl Scout Troops retire flags regularly as well. Contact your local American Legion Hall or Scout Troop to inquire about the availability of this service.





Displaying the Flag Outdoors
When the flag is displayed from a staff projecting from a window, balcony, or a building, the union should be at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half staff.

When it is displayed from the same flagpole with another flag - of a state, community, society or Scout unit - the flag of the United States must always be at the top except that the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for Navy personnel when conducted by a Naval chaplain on a ship at sea.

When the flag is displayed over a street, it should be hung vertically, with the union to the north or east. If the flag is suspended over a sidewalk, the flag's union should be farthest from the building.

When flown with flags of states, communities, or societies on separate flag poles which are of the same height and in a straight line, the flag of the United States is always placed in the position of honor - to its own right.
..The other flags may be smaller but none may be larger.
..No other flag ever should be placed above it.
..The flag of the United States is always the first flag raised and the last to be lowered.

When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation.


Raising and Lowering the Flag
The flag should be raised briskly and lowered slowly and ceremoniously. Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunset. It should be illuminated if displayed at night.
The flag of the United States of America is saluted as it is hoisted and lowered. The salute is held until the flag is unsnapped from the halyard or through the last note of music, whichever is the longest.


Displaying the Flag Indoors
When on display, the flag is accorded the place of honor, always positioned to its own right. Place it to the right of the speaker or staging area or sanctuary. Other flags should be to the left.

The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of states, localities, or societies are grouped for display.

When one flag is used with the flag of the United States of America and the staffs are crossed, the flag of the United States is placed on its own right with its staff in front of the other flag.

When displaying the flag against a wall, vertically or horizontally, the flag's union (stars) should be at the top, to the flag's own right, and to the observer's left.


Parading and Saluting the Flag
When carried in a procession, the flag should be to the right of the marchers. When other flags are carried, the flag of the United States may be centered in front of the others or carried to their right. When the flag passes in a procession, or when it is hoisted or lowered, all should face the flag and salute.


The Salute
To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

The Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem
The pledge of allegiance should be rendered by standing at attention, facing the flag, and saluting.
When the national anthem is played or sung, citizens should stand at attention and salute at the first note and hold the salute through the last note. The salute is directed to the flag, if displayed, otherwise to the music.


The Flag in Mourning
To place the flag at half staff, hoist it to the peak for an instant and lower it to a position half way between the top and bottom of the staff. The flag is to be raised again to the peak for a moment before it is lowered. On Memorial Day the flag is displayed at half staff until noon and at full staff from noon to sunset.

The flag is to be flown at half staff in mourning for designated, principal government leaders and upon presidential or gubernatorial order.

When used to cover a casket, the flag should be placed with the union at the head and over the left shoulder. It should not be lowered into the grave.

Good, that means Obama gets to believe differently as well.

Ah ok, because of the context of comparing his military status I did not think you were using that wide interpretation of a salute.

While I find myself agreeing with you more and more as I watch the video about him being disrespectful, I still take exception to your saying you don't respect him because he isn't following tradition when you refuse to follow the tradition of respecting a president regardless of personal beliefs about him.

ummmm I think I have said that, didn't I???? do you think I'm wrong or just disagree?

Well the so called commander in chief should be held accountable for a lot of things INCLUDING respect. Yes, it's a free Country and that gives us the right to expect the so called president to respect the very men and women that sacrifice so much more than any one of us has or ever will. I don't expect anything from you or anyone that doesn't voice my opinions as you don't me. You're right it's not complicated, the president of the United States should respect our military. If they salute him why would it be so difficult for him to salute back. He is no better than us and does not rise above the respect that should be given to our brave men and women. And you don't tell me not to tell others what to do, when it comes to any elected official you're damn straight I expect the most from any one of them. Gee whiz.

I can probably sue half of the internet retailers, walmart, village fairs and other shopping centers, going by those rules.

Yes he can. However as president I would hold him to a slightly higher standard than everyone else. As I pointed out it is within our countries "regulations" that everyone should do this if the flag is present. It would seem inappropriate for our president to refuse to follow this whether he has to or not.

get em tiger